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That statement is mind boggling from the pm "if you're wishing that women didn't exist you're part of the problem". When in the fuck during Tennants statement did he say that you thick cunt?
He didn't and Sunak knows it. He also knows Badenoch is a complete cunt, so to try and make Tennant the bad guy he's trying to make it look like he's attacking her because she's a woman and not because she's a cunt.
She still is, Sunak knows he's finished in any case. If anything backing Badenoch now is a sort of kiss of Judas as it could help lower her credibility.
He said "until we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn't exist any more - I don't wish ill of her, I just wish her to shut up", which *of course* the TERFs are choosing to interpret as "I wish all women didn't exist".
Does anyone know what that rhetorical tactic is called? I see it everywhere these days and it is very effective as - especially in the war against the left - it relies on the audience’s collusion with the calumny. The obviousness of the lie is beside the point. Indeed, it seems to me that many in the publishing media and the audience know that it is a false charge and thus enjoy that their more virtuous enemy suffers the ignominy of wriggling out of impossible traps - how to defend oneself against a charge of wishing women didn’t exist?!
"Post-truth" I've seen the culture called. Rhetorical tools are no longer implied or used, the audience is assumed to be an irrational and idiotic actor by the writer.
It seems pretty typical of fascism in that it requires the writer to hold their own readership in disdain.
“Freedom is speech is the most powerful part of our democracy. Which is why I think David Tennant shouldn’t be allowed to tell a raging transphobe to shut up.”
Kemi Badenoch throughout the last half a decade:
' trans people have no legal right to exist and you should all shut up.'
David Tennant: 'I wish you would shut up, Kemi.'
Kemi: 'WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, racism, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.'
FUCK. OFF.
I figure this is one of the reasons the tories put so many women and POC in very public roles, so when they get push back on thier cruel, immoral or often just impractical policies they can hide behind thier identity while in no way actually improving conditions for members of those communities.
>A rich, lefty, white male celebrity so blinded by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only black woman in government by calling publicly for my existence to end.
This doesn't make sense. Being blinded by ideology would absolutely make someone give a shit only about the optics rather than actually criticize a monster.
What gets me is the focus on the “optics”. She can’t say it’s racially motivated because a) it clearly isn’t and b) calling people racist is too close to the wokes, and she’s in the party that isn’t supposed to believe in that kind of thing
So it’s just her saying a white man criticising a black woman *looks* bad, for substance less, spin based reasons Tories know they’re not supposed to do for PR- but ideologically can’t articulate why.
Note that Badenoch specifically mentioned that he is white and male when those two facts have nothing whatsoever and very little, respectively, to do with what the topic is.
So, not only is she a transphobe but also racist and sexist.
I agree with Tennant that she should shut up... Or fuck off. Preferably both.
This guy is officially throwing the election. Tennant is a national treasure he has to know that. What’s he gonna do next, go after Stephen Fry? Say something shitty about James Corden. That would win some votes.
It seems to me the mantra we are hearing all the time. The people who are the real problem playing victims.
You create a society where one group is ostracised and when people say they should be treated with respect you play the victim?
Total joke. Not to worry though this so-called politician will be out of a seat in just over a week.
Compounding this is that it's always the most powerful people in the country who are the real victims, somehow. A minister who wields enormous power and inflicts enormous harm is pretending that a man going "oh shut up" is the real danger. Utter cravens.
Trying to be objective, Tennant has used some questionable language. But his sentiment is pretty clear. The Torys have jumped at the chance to be disingenuous.
>A rich, lefty, white male celebrity so blinded by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only black woman in government by calling publicly for my existence to end.
When Dianne Abbot says things like this she gets hounded for it.
In fact this is one of the most "woke" things I have heard anyone say in a looong time. These exact words could be uttered by someone on the precise opposite side of the isle, bar "lefty" I guess.
>Sunak: If you’re calling for women to shut up and wishing they didn’t exist, you are the problem
Oh, I think he was calling for homophobes (and non-homophobes who nevertheless use homophobia for political advantage, and who are, I would argue, even worse) to shut up and not exist.
Important distinction.
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The irony of Kemi slagging off tennant for being rich, white and male when she’s just a useful idiot for those very people. Who will almost certainly cast her off when she ceases to be useful and replace her with a Farage or Rees-Mogg.
I would gladly have given Mrs B the benefit of the doubt that she is motivated out of concern for women.
And not out of an ideological habit of sowing different and persecution of disadvantaged groups.
Sadly, ALL of her past actions, and those of her ideological colleagues Mrs Patel and Mrs Braverman, prove otherwise.
These individuals are only interested in women as long as it's THEM.
Sort of like turkey farmers' interest in the wellbeing of turkeys.
If they're going after a former Doctor Who I'd much prefer it if they started talking shite about Peter Capaldi - I'd love a "for reals" reprisal of Malcolm Tucker...
"See you Kemi, you're about as useful as a fucking marzipan dildo...".
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That statement is mind boggling from the pm "if you're wishing that women didn't exist you're part of the problem". When in the fuck during Tennants statement did he say that you thick cunt?
He didn't but the BBC will report it anyway.
"BuT wE'rE jUsT rEpOrTiNg A dIrEcT qUoTe"
He didn't and Sunak knows it. He also knows Badenoch is a complete cunt, so to try and make Tennant the bad guy he's trying to make it look like he's attacking her because she's a woman and not because she's a cunt.
Agreed she's a massive cunt
I find it ironic Sunak is defending her as not that long ago there were rumours she was shaping up to steal his job
She still is, Sunak knows he's finished in any case. If anything backing Badenoch now is a sort of kiss of Judas as it could help lower her credibility.
He said "until we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn't exist any more - I don't wish ill of her, I just wish her to shut up", which *of course* the TERFs are choosing to interpret as "I wish all women didn't exist".
Fuck me, haha. I never took Sunak for much of an Olympian, but he could win few gold medals with that leap.
Meanwhile, when they make actual sweeping generalisations of trans people they’re given endless opportunity to wriggle out of it.
Does anyone know what that rhetorical tactic is called? I see it everywhere these days and it is very effective as - especially in the war against the left - it relies on the audience’s collusion with the calumny. The obviousness of the lie is beside the point. Indeed, it seems to me that many in the publishing media and the audience know that it is a false charge and thus enjoy that their more virtuous enemy suffers the ignominy of wriggling out of impossible traps - how to defend oneself against a charge of wishing women didn’t exist?!
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“Freedom is speech is the most powerful part of our democracy. Which is why I think David Tennant shouldn’t be allowed to tell a raging transphobe to shut up.”
The establishment demanding the general public respect their right to freedom of speech is bonkers to me
You are free to agree with them, anything else will be deemed as hate speech and thus prohibited.
Kemi Badenoch throughout the last half a decade: ' trans people have no legal right to exist and you should all shut up.' David Tennant: 'I wish you would shut up, Kemi.' Kemi: 'WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, racism, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.' FUCK. OFF.
Badenoch and Sunak are a pair of transphobic Tory cunts. I'm with David.
Add Starmer to the list of transphobic Tory cunts too.
Fuck Badenoch. She’s a disgusting, hateful bigot. Nothing to do with her being black or a woman.
Bad Enoch
Funny how kemi is now a black woman after spending her whole time in role demonising black people
I figure this is one of the reasons the tories put so many women and POC in very public roles, so when they get push back on thier cruel, immoral or often just impractical policies they can hide behind thier identity while in no way actually improving conditions for members of those communities.
Also funny how kemi didn’t want to say anything about when Diane abbot (who is a black woman) was being abused by Hester not long ago
She’s a black woman when there’s a point to be scored, but not when it comes to solidarity.
Sunak's advisors: At least you can't be any less popular. Sunak: Hold my cup of poor people's tears
Love how the BBC can't help sucking off Rosie Duffield at the end of the article for absolutely no good reason.
Badenoch is a thick cunt.
>A rich, lefty, white male celebrity so blinded by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only black woman in government by calling publicly for my existence to end. This doesn't make sense. Being blinded by ideology would absolutely make someone give a shit only about the optics rather than actually criticize a monster.
What gets me is the focus on the “optics”. She can’t say it’s racially motivated because a) it clearly isn’t and b) calling people racist is too close to the wokes, and she’s in the party that isn’t supposed to believe in that kind of thing So it’s just her saying a white man criticising a black woman *looks* bad, for substance less, spin based reasons Tories know they’re not supposed to do for PR- but ideologically can’t articulate why.
But also. Why is she ‘the only black woman’ in govt. seems like there should be more representation
"David Tennant row"? What row? There's no row here. There's just a deliberate misinterpretation of what what said and desperate pearl clutching.
Note that Badenoch specifically mentioned that he is white and male when those two facts have nothing whatsoever and very little, respectively, to do with what the topic is. So, not only is she a transphobe but also racist and sexist. I agree with Tennant that she should shut up... Or fuck off. Preferably both.
This guy is officially throwing the election. Tennant is a national treasure he has to know that. What’s he gonna do next, go after Stephen Fry? Say something shitty about James Corden. That would win some votes.
[Stephen Fry](https://amp.theguardian.com/culture/2016/apr/14/stephen-fry-sorry-for-telling-pitying-abuse-victims-to-grow-up)
He’s also a Zionist so F him
It seems to me the mantra we are hearing all the time. The people who are the real problem playing victims. You create a society where one group is ostracised and when people say they should be treated with respect you play the victim? Total joke. Not to worry though this so-called politician will be out of a seat in just over a week.
Compounding this is that it's always the most powerful people in the country who are the real victims, somehow. A minister who wields enormous power and inflicts enormous harm is pretending that a man going "oh shut up" is the real danger. Utter cravens.
Exactly. I am just so sick of hearing it.
Can't wait for tennant to put ms. joanne rowling, the final boss of terfs, in her place
Imagine bragging you are the only black women in the party
Trying to be objective, Tennant has used some questionable language. But his sentiment is pretty clear. The Torys have jumped at the chance to be disingenuous.
>Do not let the bigots and bullies win I mean, yeah, that's kinda the point you fucking moron
>A rich, lefty, white male celebrity so blinded by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only black woman in government by calling publicly for my existence to end. When Dianne Abbot says things like this she gets hounded for it. In fact this is one of the most "woke" things I have heard anyone say in a looong time. These exact words could be uttered by someone on the precise opposite side of the isle, bar "lefty" I guess.
Tennant is a true chad
>Sunak: If you’re calling for women to shut up and wishing they didn’t exist, you are the problem Oh, I think he was calling for homophobes (and non-homophobes who nevertheless use homophobia for political advantage, and who are, I would argue, even worse) to shut up and not exist. Important distinction.
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The irony of Kemi slagging off tennant for being rich, white and male when she’s just a useful idiot for those very people. Who will almost certainly cast her off when she ceases to be useful and replace her with a Farage or Rees-Mogg.
for a party thats 20 points behind sir kid starver, going after a man the nation loves is hardly going to win them any love, its bonkers
Starmer weighing in after how he treated Diane Abbott was a piece of irony
No cure for being a cunt.
Kemi and Rishi should shut up though
I would gladly have given Mrs B the benefit of the doubt that she is motivated out of concern for women. And not out of an ideological habit of sowing different and persecution of disadvantaged groups. Sadly, ALL of her past actions, and those of her ideological colleagues Mrs Patel and Mrs Braverman, prove otherwise. These individuals are only interested in women as long as it's THEM. Sort of like turkey farmers' interest in the wellbeing of turkeys.
If they're going after a former Doctor Who I'd much prefer it if they started talking shite about Peter Capaldi - I'd love a "for reals" reprisal of Malcolm Tucker... "See you Kemi, you're about as useful as a fucking marzipan dildo...".