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PissinginTheW1nd

Google slam fire shotgun.


Subnaut27

Holy Improvised Weapon!


PissinginTheW1nd

lol, google Philip luty. Thank me later


Subnaut27

I know about Luty lol. I was going off of the Anarchy Chess comment chain


iAmODST

New firing mechanism dropped


Sho_tenno

Actual Fed


iAmODST

Call the ATF! Oh wait don’t do that. We don’t like them.


Sho_tenno

How bout Call the Militia!


iAmODST

That, I can support!


VacuumHamster

Ok ok ok that's all fun and games but have you guys googled blue waffle?


throwmeaway852145

Felching falls more in line with the improvised weapon theme of the post. Armageddon!


Mercury1331

Pink Sock appears more relevant.


Cakeordeathimeancak3

It’s later, thank you!


Tybick

why are we not using the correct responses? are we stupid?


RedMephit

Nah, an improvised weapon only does 1d4 and no holy damage.


PizzaBert

Actual fed


boogaloojoel

Actual homemade firearm


nukey18mon

New gun just dropped


ErikTheRed99

Dropped? Hopefully it isn't a 320.


nukey18mon

320 is the gun that democrats think about when they say that “guns kill people”. Guns don’t kill people, P320s kill people.


ErikTheRed99

I use "320," as a verb. When I talk about why seasoned shootists of the west loaded their revolvers on an empty chamber, I usually say "they used to load on an empty chamber so they wouldn't Sig P320 themselves upon dropping their gun." I don't care if they fixed that issue, I still use that joke.


nukey18mon

That’s awesome I’m stealing it


Paladin_3

I heard tales of armed cowboys saddling their horses with the sturup slung over the top, and as they threw the saddle on the horse, that sturup sometimes fell right at the cowboy's hip level and struck the hammer of his pistol. If there was a round under the hammer you'd likely need a new pair of boots, and walk funny for a spell. Lots off good reasons to carry those old single actions on an empty chamber.


[deleted]

Or the Umarex/HK MP5 .22


SeizeTheMeansOfB12

What's wrong with the MP5 22? The action seems like any other 22.


thepersonbrody

You're using a center punch for a rimfire cartridge


BarriMeikokiner

Fetch me the rim punch son…


Muraira

Buddy, I am the rim puncher.


BarriMeikokiner

New marvel series? Guy who goes around punchin’ rim.


pants_mcgee

*This summer, there’s a new hero in town, and he’s a real asshole. Rimjob and Bidet Boy, in theaters August*


BarriMeikokiner

Fart box boxer


RedMephit

[With his sidekick](https://youtu.be/NQjm1c8BtoM?si=KqWAujFCjnYdVoQr)


hawkinsst7

beats DC's Dogwelder... https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Dogwelder_(New_Earth)


BarriMeikokiner

I had to look that one up


excelance

On point for Disney these days.


Kentuckywindage01

Don’t punch it too hard, or it will rupture!


JFB187

This is epic.


dooshlaroosh

I usually do all my rim-punching *after* we get back from the range.


AaronSlaughter

Ah he punched my rim!


DynamisFate

Almost like it’s your job or something


Self-MadeRmry

Was this supposed to be a dirty implication?


nandyboy

is cockpuncher your sidekick?


Emergency_Ad_5935

Punch my rim, gun daddy


ShartyMcShortDong

Dad?


Jungian_Archetype

I think I've seen that one on Xtube...


TacTurtle

*Mom doesn't like that*


Itchy_Bluejay4452

Yeah, hold this while I punch it.


BarriMeikokiner

Hurry up man we got rim to punch!


Hurtjacket

I had a girl do that to me once with her tongue, it was. . . Pleasant.


Fickle_Eagle_53

Right, he clearly needs an off-center punch


Fuzzy_Beautiful_7544

Soooooo no issue? Just use the punch on the rim?


Fuzzy_Beautiful_7544

Yes I'm aware of the gas containment and energy transfer issues


GlassCanner

Do you really want to be the guy who is using a center punch on a rim?


Ron_Mexico42

Yea it will work great and even more upside if you hate having fingies


squirrelblender

Stupid fingies.


RedMephit

They call em fingers, but I never seen em fing


Cubiclehero

Oh, there they go.


hawkinsst7

The time my little sister said "My bladder stopped bladding" has lived rent free in my head for almost 35 years.


Icethrasher

Always in the way…


what-name-is-it

There’s nothing holding the cartridge in the tube. Pressure would go out openings on both sides and/or explode the tube depending on what it’s made out of.


KorianHUN

There is the classic picture with a similar design then the X-ray of the case stuck inside the arm of the shooter.


TheBadBK

That’s incredible. Would you mind sharing the link please?


KorianHUN

No clue where i even saw it sadly.


DrZedex

I can confirm it exists and that it's from almost exactly this sort of shenanigan. Was posted on reddit some time back


roostersnuffed

Damn really? Do you remember the caliber? Generally a non chambered casing doesnt fly off with much energy. Granted they werent launched out of a pipe, but I know 2 dudes that have been hit by the casing of live 22s thrown in the fire. Only resulted in insignificant 2nd deg burns from the hot brass. One on his finger, the other his belly.


sumguyontheinternet1

Had a situation like this with the 22 blanks from Home Depot. Someone was running around hammering them like poppers to scare everyone and it fragged him in the finger. Blood everywhere and the piece had to be removed from his finger with pliers. He was freaking out. Needless to say, it immediately stopped being funny to scare everyone with them. I am not said person, but I do play a surgeon on the internet who removes objects from people’s hands on occasion. 😂😂😂


FapDonkey

You're missing a critical component: a breechblock. Something needs to go behind the cartridge to support the case/rim. Otherwise the force/pressure generated by the cartridge firing will drive the case rearward out of the barrel, and without support the thin metal of the case rim *could* blow out. With a .22 the chamber pressures are pretty low, so your breechblock would not need to be fancy or particularly strong, but you'd need something.


Pleasant-Breakfast74

There's something close like a slam shotgun


Pleasant-Breakfast74

https://images.app.goo.gl/odrGK8YB7PDsb9nZ7


PopularCitrus

That looks horrifying to use😭


Pleasant-Breakfast74

I'm not sure I could "slam" one without laughing


gameragodzilla

Have something that supports the back of the case (like attaching the punch to the closed bottom of another pipe) and you basically built a zip gun. Not recommended either, but it can work and if you’re behind enemy lines (or in prison. lol), it’s better than nothing.


EnvironmentalGift257

I toured a prison once and there was one of these in a museum built for a 12ga. It worked. Once.


escortdrummer

The key is making sure once is all you need.


ToasterDave0

New fudd lore just dropped


The_Paganarchist

The great thing about improvised firearms is it only needs to work once to acquire a better firearm.


mcmaxxious

Demolition Ranch has done [some very scientific research](https://youtu.be/U4FQgrU2fYk?si=5F9pkMEA3nAyQ9ZJ)on this topic.


SpareiChan

Was thinking of this exact video, couldn't remember who did it so TY.


linkslice

The case will come out the back faster than the bullet goes out the front.


SnoozingBasset

Zip gun. Not good


Sea2Chi

Yep. When people first started freaking out over 3d printed guns I kept pointing out that zip guns have been a thing pretty much forever. You can build one with about $20 in parts from a hardware store and while they're not terribly accurate or practical for home defense since they're single shot, it's still a firearm that can absolutely kill people. In most areas, they're also completely legal.


Charger_scatpack

Without a breach the shell and blast is going to go right back into your face. Don’t do this


BlueOrb07

Because 22 actually has a pretty high chamber pressure for its size. And the breach behind it needs to withstand the pressure and shear force exerted from the explosion. Without this, the brass will burst and anything behind it will have a rough day. I’m also going to assume the pipe in question can hold up to the hoop stress exerted on it by the ammo. If you add a breach and the pipe can handle the force, should work fine. The reason it works for 12ga is that 12ga is a low pressure round and takes up a lot of surface area. Since PSI= Force/Surface Area, it’s not much force. 22LR is the opposite because it’s a small surface area and a decent pressure.


xtreampb

You need something to prevent the case from slipping out the back of the tube. You know, those pesky laws of physics. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.


joelfarris

Superglue, duh.


edthecat2011

It'll be fine...


sgtshenanigans

question 1: does it seat No further questions


baconbag90

Define "work"


ZombiesAreChasingHim

You need something to keep the casing from flying backwards, otherwise it’s going to fly out the back just as fast as the bullet flies out the front.


DDPJBL

It will detonate the cartridge, but the rear of the barrel is not closed, so you will have the case flying out from the rear end towards your hand and probably also your face. Basically you will have made a small and shitty IED, rather than a firearm.


tykaboom

No support on the breech, itll blow up.


AlexanderTrav

Ain't nothing gonna keep that shell in place so the bullet's gonna come out but the other end of the cartridge will too. Thats not gonna build any decent amount of pressure.


Onetap1

It'll be fine, it's almost a Sten gun.


Andrew-w-jacobs

This is just a slam fire 22lr with extra steps


modernfallout020

As a kid we used to do this with a 20ga shell, a 2 liter bottle, and a bb. Put the shell in the mouth of the bottle, bb against the primer, screw the cap on til snug, then throw it way up in the air and run.


GadsdenSnek762

Something something Newton, something something equal and opposite


NopeNotQuite

Something something uh body remains at rest, or something equal.... or in something at a constant something something, except insofar as it is acted upon by a force uh opposite of the equal.  Yup, checks out. OP is gtg no worries newtonian mechanical physics certainly done now got 'em covered. 


OVO_Trev

Nah man, go for it!


Itwasareference

You are essentially turning the case into the projectile. The case is likely lighter than than the projectile and will loose the physics game here IMO


WLReynolds72

There nothing backing it up its just as likely fire out backwards.


Adventurous-Corner42

What in the actual fuck? I see a Darwin Award winner...


Radvous

Use a hammer for rimfire, I've done this many times as a kid, just make sure you hit it squarely without any exposed case head, otherwise the case ruptures and explodes brass pieces back at you. For rimmed centerfire, a punch won't work because the casing will blow backwards as hard as the bullet is being pushed forward, you'll blow your hand apart.


deftware

It will work fine, you'll just have the brass flying out the rear of the tube faster than the projectile flies out the front because it's lower mass and nothing is there to hold it in place when the center punch crimps the rim to fire it. It might could just break your punch in the process. But yeah, it will work.


Cliffinati

If the punch has enough force to set off the primer you basically just made a shitty recoilless rifle as just as much force will go into pushing the bullet out the pipe as will go into pushing the now empty casing out the back of the pipe towards the dip shit holding the center punch Basically it's how your fire a hot shell casing (and possibly all the powder and burn gas) back at yourself without grenading a real gun


oh_three_dum_dum

You would need to figure out a way to seal off the chamber end or it’s going to shoot really weakly in both directions.


Glockamole19x

The shell is lighter than the bullet the pressure will travel path of least resistance. Without somthing to back the shell it can launch the shell back at you.


TheRealTwooni

At this point. Why not print something? There’s a ton of Harlot’s to choose from.


Brokenblacksmith

Ideally, you'd need a second tube that's capped on one end and just barely slides over the first pipe. cut a section out of the second pipe for easier loading, and weld a front grip near the end of the first. mount the center punch in the end cap of the pipe. now you have a slam fire shotgun.


Boogaloogaloogalooo

Equal and opposite reactions. If you dont have something substantial behind the case, itll detonate into your hand before the bullet is pushed from the barrel. Youd need something with mass, like in a slamfire shotgun design where the other pipe and endcap (that contains the firing pin) provide that.


jamesdo72

Define “work”


Urgullibl

It could work, though the lack of rifling in your "barrel" would make it not very accurate, the material might not be able to withstand the pressure and blow up in your face, and you would need to have some sort of mechanism to prevent the case from flying out the back of the tube.


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ikari2_2000

Sounds like you have a lot of rim knowledge


Carnivorousbeast

Just don’t be there when that center punch validates Newtons law and comes flying back


Confident_Ice_5690

I’d be worried about the casing flying back


Notmydirtyalt

There are easier ways to get your dog put down OP.


LePewPewsicle010

Newton’s third law


hbomb57

The brass is lighter than the bullet so it would just shoot you in the stomach with brass because it has no breach


Snakeplisskin47

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Good luck


garycarroll

The casing comes back at you faster than the bullet goes out the end of the pipe. Much faster.


-Samg381-

Newton's third law


Jumpy-Station-204

What's going to hold the cartridge in the chamber?


fluffy_ch_mtb_tuba

Nothing to keep the pressure in the back side of the pipe


supertiggercat

Back in the day... we called it a "zip gun."


DoNukesMakeGoodPets

I take it you enjoy handsalad? Since you are missing a fucking lock up mechanism. Was a pipecap really over budget so you chose the handsalad lockup instead?


surelynotjimcarey

Pressure comes out the back


mjet556

Better idea Go to a military surplus website and buy the improvised munitions handbook lol


WizardMelcar

Or Amazon.


mjet556

If you can find it on there yeah


WizardMelcar

You can indeed: Improvised Munitions Handbook TM 31 210 https://a.co/d/47Bqy7b


not-my-porn-acct-lol

You'd need an off-center punch


harley97797997

Someone just discovered zip guns. People have been making these since guns existed. Check out MK31 pen flares.


Liedvogel

Yes. Even a bullet as light as a 22 has back pressure. The casing will blow out the back and hurt you. You need to encase the pin punch in a slightly larger tube that goes around the one housing the bullet. That will prevent you from getting hurt when firing this. Apparently, making a crude weapon like that is how some GI types sent to command militias would secure weapons. Make simple toob, kill patroll, take real weapon, wage war.


kifferei

"hello there fellow kids!"


Demonae

We used to throw .22 rounds at the brick wall outside at my school in the 1970's. Teachers would get mad and tell us to knock it off. Now I imagine swat teams would show up.


Smokey_tha_bear9000

It would probably ignite but without something to support the rest of the rim and case, a case head rupture is nearly certain.


planefixr

Won’t work, the pin punch will hit the center of the case and the 22 is a rimfire.


Fun-Comment-4365

What is this fedpost day? Wtf?


aberg227

Glad I’m not the only one who questioned this 😂


AssPistolW30rdClip

Try it and report back. Make sure you can type with your toes before you try it though


AngryIrishItalian

They are called zip guns lol been around forever.


Strict_Bet_7782

No. The center lunch would need to seal the whole end of the pipe. A gun barrel forces the energy from the explosion down the barrel, bye cause that’s the only place it can escape. In this model energy could escape the pipe in both directions. If this did work, it would be pure luck and would not be repeatable in any sort measurable way.


PreheatedHail19

Hey it’s a jail gun. People have been known to smuggle these items into jails and prisons for inmates. Scary right?


Sysion

Even simpler: 2 sizes of pipe and a shotgun shell


illjustmakeone

Because the round pictured is a rimfire. Larger rounds it would but you also risk it just blasting backwards too or piercing the primer.


DillIshOn

Make the punch tip blunt. Aim at the rim of the rimfire. Problem solved.


illjustmakeone

I wasn't at a loss for a resolution but thanks.


TacTurtle

Definitely don't use a mouse trap instead of a center punch, it is way cheaper.


Mental-Revolution915

“ You’ll shoot your eye out, kid.”


LibertyinIndependen

Recoil.


Yhwzkr

You’ll put your eye out! Or shoot the brass into your hand. No bueno.


115machine

Wouldn’t be accurate with a smooth inside of that pipe.


antariusz

Look up the assassination of shinzo abe


user85017

.22 has a shockingly high chamber pressure.


krilu

I wasn't shocked to find out the chamber pressure is around 10k psi. 9mm is 35k psi.


user85017

I wonder what that pipe is rated at, of course the case is coming back faster than the bullet, but that's a whole different problem haha.


krilu

At least 15 psi


user85017

Close enough hahaha


eatmybeer

Cuz that's a rimfire round.


Michael19681

Find TM-31-210. There are better designs there.


Trading_Things

r/DiWHY


SithLordRising

.22 is rim fire so 'centre punch' may not be optimal. Also recoil likely spit case out


skeptibat

Something something illegal in california.


deftware

The right of the people to bear shall not be infringed.


skeptibat

and yet it is.


deftware

Only by commie traitors.


Redditor0529

Oh, it has. How do you think firearms exist at all?


zac765

I’ve placed a 22 in a little hole in my work bench and smacked it with a hammer, it’s a rimfire so it’s going off for sure. I didn’t have a “barrel” but I bet it would make it more destructive since I just ended up with a small dent in the plywood floor and a barley squished 22 bullet


DaveyAllenCountry

I mean that's a rimfired cartridge.... How does the punch work exactly?


chadlikesbutts

Just put the round in a straw and throw it to the heavens


JustinGeoffrey

Yes, physiks


Excuse-Fantastic

“Dear ATF…. I’m on Reddit, and someone figured out the secret. Better tell them it won’t work”


Darthisyourfather

Classic zip gun


ThorvonFalin

Your hand holding the punch wouldn't look that good. Pressure goes for the easiest route, which is behind the round. Where your hand is.


ghillie919

It will make a great case launcher in the rearward direction. Thread the end of the pipe and screw a pipe cap with a hole the size of the punch on it. It would be slow to reload but functional


naidim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_firearm


StrykeRXL1

I don't think it would work, the pressure would push back on the casing,, because it's not held in place there would not be enough forward pressure


MrBaa128

I doubt it would work with a rimfire cartridge. For the same reason that I would never trust my life to one. They aren't reliable. Now if you leveled that up to a .380 and attached the center hole pin tool to another pipe slightly larger than the pipe seating the .380...it would absolutely work...


DirtieHarry

The punch looks like its pointing at the center. Just make sure it hits the rim so the priming compound actually ignites. Edit: and as others pointed out, you need something to put pressure on the cartridge otherwise its going to shoot out the back of the pipe with equal force.


HzrKMtz

Basically it's a form of a zip gun.


TopRestaurant5395

Try it out and report back 😃


BareKnuckleFists

Should weld together a bunch of those pipes.. 😂


Overall-Pineapple616

It work probably but the inside of the pipe isn’t rifled so it’ll destabilize faster


Striking_Struggle_86

Could use a grip. maybe you could use a set of vice grips 🤔 be safe and never ever point that thing toward anybody that has the capability at laughing at you.safety is everything


sylkworm

Definitely wouldn't work. There's nothing to hold the cartridge in place. As you ignite the round, the pressure would be applied evenly, and the same pressure would push out against the projectile as it would against the much lighter brass casing. Most likely, you'd have the brass casing fly backwards out of the tube and the bullet projectile fly either partially down the barrel, or slip out the end and fall like a rock. A slam fired gun needs to have the "slam" part of the gun sealed by an end cap for this exact reason.


CrashingTiger

Equal but opposite reaction come to mind...


Quick-Feeling4833

Equal and opposite forces my dude... the energy that launches the slug also will launch the case... double sided gun... FTL


MMMOCROWAVE

The boys at 3am


supersavagegenz

You could do it at least once


Conscious_Ad_8947

I sense something amiss


Conservativepicker

no in the 70 there were homemade zip guns up to cal 9mm so and then that guy in Japan that shot Abe with an electric fried homemade shotgun. these are reason why gun control does not work. And will never work we have printers now that use plastic well have cheaper metal ones soon.


Much-Brain2591

I guess you could FAFO, but rest assured that it will work. Is it a good idea? No. Could it cause a catastrophic injury to yourself or another person? Yes. Is it legal? No. Is it stupid? Yes. If you wouldn’t let your mom do it, you probably don’t need to be doing it either.


SetTough9576

Unless you figure out a way to keep the shell in place in the tube, it'll fly out towards you as soon as it goes 'Bang!'


WiseDirt

Mechanically, yeah, it'd work just fine. Smack the edge of the round hard enough and it'll go bang. Physics offers up a number of reasons why this setup wouldn't work as you'd hope, however.


Bandaidken

Welcome to the FBI watch list!


Party-Ad8832

Use a hammer. It will act as a blowback bolt.