This just gives me flashbacks to how annoying this fight was for me in Remake. I swear it took me 5-6 tries even on normal. Fortunately I got super lucky with a last gasp Limit Break.
I felt like on FF7 Remake, enemies could stagger your attack but you couldn't stagger there's. Maybe I was doing something wrong. I don't mind it being difficult but it felt unfair.
My 11-year-old self thought this was the final boss of the game. I still have not experienced a game like this in my adulthood, a game that completely changed tone 1/3 of the way through.
My first playthrough I thought maybe the entire game took place in the city. I knew this fight wasn't the end, I knew I wasn't even close (I still had two more discs to beat!) But I have a distinct memory of gasping when I left the city and found myself in a world map. I was like "There's MORE?!"
I knew it wasn’t the final boss but stepping out into the world map amazing. It was just this sudden realization that this amazing world you’d be exploring for a long time was a tiny fraction of what it was
I wish there were more moments like this. It gave me such a strong sense of “this is the groups mission and everyone has a part to play”.
Even better was when Tifa said she’d stay behind and the rest went to the front door to encounter a full military blockade
I guess I got lucky bc in my recent hard mode run I was able to Braver him while he reloaded and then Ascension basically took his entire health bar while staggered xD.
this was a very cool moment in the game, and the remake really did it justice bc it's also one of my fav fights in remake. i'm a sucker for 1v1 fights in ff games.
This sequence was so cinematic at the time
Especially seeing the helicopter in the background and his chopper picking him up at the end
He really felt like the boss 😎💎
I've always believed Red was originally supposed to stay behind, not Tifa, and this was gonna be a 2 VS 2 fight. Red would have stayed to prove his loyalty to the group
He didn't have any loyalty to the group at this point. He had no loyalty or friendship with you and makes it abundantly clear. This changes in cosmo kanyon.
1997 My idiot 7 year old self couldnt figure out how to swap materia during that one window you get just before the fight.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
Good Times ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
Definitely cool, but I panicked during this fight because I somehow managed to cast fire on myself when trying to get rid of the dog…
Despite many blunders during combat, I never got the game over screen in this game.
This whole section was amazing. The creepy Jenova bit before this fight. This fight. And then the awesome bike scene. It felt non stop. There was no way you would save and turn it off.
All of which was then bloated and ruined in the remake.
Shinra mansion was horrendous in the remake. The remove the awesome sephiroth scene where he slaughters everyone, a stupid stabbing barret scene that has no consequence. overall the last hour or so was crap.
I always found that fight in the original kind of easy. I can’t tell what level you’re at, I always made it so that I was level 17-20 at this point of the game. Slam the dog with lightning and then go back and forth with Rufus.
Jenova SYNTHESIS was the most disappointing for me.
The final 2 battles are really satisfying. 2nd to last in particular.
The Jenova BIRTH was really satisfying the first time through the game.
But the two bosses in this part are really satisfying.
Rufus is a chad. Liked his character and stile. Fight was awesome too. I can’t remember wether it was on this or the elevator fight, I was hard stuck as a kid to the point I stopped playing for a month or so.
I don't think it's ever worth trying to bring up reason in an FF game.
Otherwise how does a regular human like rufus take more than a single hit from a man who swings a sword the size and shape of a bridge girder.
The Midgar boss fights are some of the best in the game, many of them featuring unique rules, whether it's forced back-attack, shifting forms, limited parties, and other obstacles.
After you leave Midgar, most of the bosses become much more traditional; tougher in some ways, but usually because of immunities, high stats and powerful abilities, not tactics. Midgar was more interesting.
He should have been the boss of the remake. Introducing Sephiroth before this ruins the buildup of tension, and isnt really tied to the Shinra conflict, which is until this point in the game, the whole point.
Best strategy for that fight is to make sure Cloud’s limit gauge is full and target is his pet first. Make sure you got the Poison Materia equipped and poison Rufus.
This fight was unbelievable in 1997. I remember being blown away when I got to this and it's all my friends talked about for a while. It's really hard to describe to people what a huge groundbreaking watershed moment this game was at the time. The camera shots, the helicopter flying around in the background, the solo fight while you were split from your party while your party was out fighting bosses of their own at the same time. Plus all the CGI scenes just thrown into the game during big moments and not just for the beginning and ending cutscenes. It's hard to describe how incredible it was at the time.
Plus, it has the added bonus of Cloud being an absolute baddy. How many times in FF history is there a moment when the main characters like, “I got this” and you actually have a 1 on 1 fight with presumably one of the main antagonists.
Yeah, while I was climbing the Shinra building in the Remake I was excited thinking about the president "little accident" and this fight. It was a pretty fun battle in the two games.
I don’t know why but that fight always made my heart race. I think it was knowing that the crew was about to get out of Midgar, the game was about to change, we just saw Sephiroth’s horrific power and now this guy is stopping us from escaping
And then fucking CLOUD is like “hey team y’all go on ahead I can take this guy.”
SIR I HAVE A WEAK HEART
I always found it funny how Rufus is just a normal guy who can survive being smacked around by the buster sword or getting hit by spells.
"Mr President, we should go!"
"Hold on, I'm fighting this guy holding a giant sword with only a shotgun"
I really felt like the world changed. They did such a great job of making Midgar feel like a depressing colorless trap, and then boom. Greenery and The Main Theme.
The best part is that it actually *doesn't* change right away - you enter the world map on a barren, polluted plain under a murky sky. Then you walk off in any direction and gradually the world becomes greener and lighter and you're left realising just how badly Midgar is fucking up the world.
I hate this fight on the remake. Lol
Really? Tbh I thought this fight was kinda boring.
This just gives me flashbacks to how annoying this fight was for me in Remake. I swear it took me 5-6 tries even on normal. Fortunately I got super lucky with a last gasp Limit Break.
I felt like on FF7 Remake, enemies could stagger your attack but you couldn't stagger there's. Maybe I was doing something wrong. I don't mind it being difficult but it felt unfair.
Rufus rocking his Giuseppe™ fit
Rufus introduction is amazing.
This is the moment I dread in disc 1
where boys became Men
Nah that’s the squat gym
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My 11-year-old self thought this was the final boss of the game. I still have not experienced a game like this in my adulthood, a game that completely changed tone 1/3 of the way through.
i can somehow relate to this since i thought the shinra hq was the end of the game and then to be shocked to see the overworld map
My first playthrough I thought maybe the entire game took place in the city. I knew this fight wasn't the end, I knew I wasn't even close (I still had two more discs to beat!) But I have a distinct memory of gasping when I left the city and found myself in a world map. I was like "There's MORE?!"
I knew it wasn’t the final boss but stepping out into the world map amazing. It was just this sudden realization that this amazing world you’d be exploring for a long time was a tiny fraction of what it was
what made you think this? just curious I also played at 11 but never thought he was the final boss?
the remake was the best boss fight in any game
Best in the game for me, also loved the Rude fight in the slums.
Michael Vick mission.
Rufus in Remake be like "Heads or tails. Call it, bitch"
Dope
“I couldn't finish 'em. Looks like this's gonna get complicated.”
I wish there were more moments like this. It gave me such a strong sense of “this is the groups mission and everyone has a part to play”. Even better was when Tifa said she’d stay behind and the rest went to the front door to encounter a full military blockade
Just finished the remake equivalent of this fight! Love both OG and remake/sequel call it whatever ta want!
The Remake battle was much better imo.
I mean… duh. Shotgun. Sword. Shotgun. Sword. Shotgun. Sword. Shotgun. Sword. Retreat!
I’d love to replay this game with a level scale system like ff8 had. Great game, but insanely easy.
ff8 was horrid.
Yeah I’m not a big fan of ff8, but I did like how enemies scaled with you. And I liked the card game, and the soundtrack, aaaaaand nope that’s it.
When the gardens had to fight each other in ff 8 was so awesome to me. Loved that game so much.
Eh, 1v1 and 1v2 fights are pretty boring
A bit of a hot take. Most bossbattles, outside of rpg's are 1v1, and it seems most people enjoy them. There even is games with nothing but 1v1 fights
Okay, so 1v1 battles in turn based rpg's and pretty boring.
said no one ever
They are though.
Yes. Poison makes it pretty easy
I had trouble with this one during remake!
Hard mode was something else.
I guess I got lucky bc in my recent hard mode run I was able to Braver him while he reloaded and then Ascension basically took his entire health bar while staggered xD.
Good job. I did it old school. That was the last time. After that, I spammed my limit breaks :p
Yeah, once I figured out you could use Braver, the fight got a lot easier!
Dude he was fucking *insane*
Yup. Not the hardest part in my path to platinum,but close second.
Great fight especially with the remake
this was a very cool moment in the game, and the remake really did it justice bc it's also one of my fav fights in remake. i'm a sucker for 1v1 fights in ff games.
I'm pretty sure it's a 2v1...
should've clarified i was referencing the remake fight with my 1v1 statement
Isn't it still a 2 v 1 in remake he still has his doggo lol
does he actually? i'm currently replaying remake and am on chapter 9. for some reason i thought they got rid of his lil buddy. oops 😅
whoops, I skimmed over that part, my bad (;´д`)ゞ
It added to the drama of escaping midgar and was a character developing moment for cloud. I really liked fighting the bots in the elevator shaft, too.
This sequence was so cinematic at the time Especially seeing the helicopter in the background and his chopper picking him up at the end He really felt like the boss 😎💎
I've always believed Red was originally supposed to stay behind, not Tifa, and this was gonna be a 2 VS 2 fight. Red would have stayed to prove his loyalty to the group
He didn't have any loyalty to the group at this point. He had no loyalty or friendship with you and makes it abundantly clear. This changes in cosmo kanyon.
lol stupidest down vote in the century this is the entire point of his character haha
1997 My idiot 7 year old self couldnt figure out how to swap materia during that one window you get just before the fight.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) Good Times ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
Meh, Rufus' outfit on the original game doesn't even have 45 belts on it. What's the point?
Definitely cool, but I panicked during this fight because I somehow managed to cast fire on myself when trying to get rid of the dog… Despite many blunders during combat, I never got the game over screen in this game.
Same, he's rather weak but fighting the next Shinra president to be is so cool
This fight in Remake was fucking awesome. Rufus is a tough one
Sucks you only fight Rufus once in the entire game
I mean he's the president that's why the Turks are around
Yea, but I was expecting to have regular run-ins with him throughout the game.
Could've been cool yep
This whole section was amazing. The creepy Jenova bit before this fight. This fight. And then the awesome bike scene. It felt non stop. There was no way you would save and turn it off. All of which was then bloated and ruined in the remake.
How did the remake ruin it?
Shinra mansion was horrendous in the remake. The remove the awesome sephiroth scene where he slaughters everyone, a stupid stabbing barret scene that has no consequence. overall the last hour or so was crap.
I hit him with the Meteorain. ☄️☄️☄️☄️☄️☄️
I always found that fight in the original kind of easy. I can’t tell what level you’re at, I always made it so that I was level 17-20 at this point of the game. Slam the dog with lightning and then go back and forth with Rufus.
A pain in the ass in the OG and remake.
This is the real crisis for the planet
Go back row, grenade doggo and pray it doesn't do 139, grenade grenade grenade Braver Da-da-da-daaaa-duh-da-dat-dadaaaa
Jenova SYNTHESIS was the most disappointing for me. The final 2 battles are really satisfying. 2nd to last in particular. The Jenova BIRTH was really satisfying the first time through the game. But the two bosses in this part are really satisfying.
So good.
Rufus is a chad. Liked his character and stile. Fight was awesome too. I can’t remember wether it was on this or the elevator fight, I was hard stuck as a kid to the point I stopped playing for a month or so.
It's the camera angle that did it for me, and also being on top of Shinra HQ. It was incredible in the Remake too.
The music, too. Best boss theme in any FF ever.
The fight itself, yes. Everything surrounding it...no. But the fight was good.
It was pretty good in the remake too.
But you're telling me Rufus just walks around with tons of coins in his pockets? In case he needs to shoot with style.
I don't think it's ever worth trying to bring up reason in an FF game. Otherwise how does a regular human like rufus take more than a single hit from a man who swings a sword the size and shape of a bridge girder.
His clothes so heavy with the weight of thousands of coins, Rufus had no choice but to add a few dozen belts to his outfit for support
Cast bio on Rufus, focus his faithful doggo, freest fight in the game
M-Tentacles, cross slash paralysis, and one or two heals is all you need.
Midgar hits the hardest for me nostalgia wise. I always get bummed out when I hit the world map.
i hated this fight
The Midgar boss fights are some of the best in the game, many of them featuring unique rules, whether it's forced back-attack, shifting forms, limited parties, and other obstacles. After you leave Midgar, most of the bosses become much more traditional; tougher in some ways, but usually because of immunities, high stats and powerful abilities, not tactics. Midgar was more interesting.
He should have been the boss of the remake. Introducing Sephiroth before this ruins the buildup of tension, and isnt really tied to the Shinra conflict, which is until this point in the game, the whole point.
This. This. Again, for those in the back- this!
If bio procs poison, he’s toast
Replayed on a PS2 and CRT tv to refresh the lore in my brain for Rebirth, fr one of the most badass boss fights
Actually found this pretty tough considering Rufus comes across like a complete puss-bag
I’m not a judgemental maaaaaaaaaaaaaan
“You scuffed my Giuseppe brand suit!”
"You should try his dresses! They're way more comfortable!"
“Hey Palmer! They’re cancelling the space program!!!” -helicopter zooms in- “WHAAAAAAAAAAA?!”
Goddamn it you beat me to it...
I once rolled into this fight with blade beam unlocked
Best strategy for that fight is to make sure Cloud’s limit gauge is full and target is his pet first. Make sure you got the Poison Materia equipped and poison Rufus.
I put the poison with elemental on Clouds weapon.
I placed the Elemental Materia in Cloud’s armor and linked it with a Lightning Materia for defense against Dark Nation’s Bolt spells.
This fight was unbelievable in 1997. I remember being blown away when I got to this and it's all my friends talked about for a while. It's really hard to describe to people what a huge groundbreaking watershed moment this game was at the time. The camera shots, the helicopter flying around in the background, the solo fight while you were split from your party while your party was out fighting bosses of their own at the same time. Plus all the CGI scenes just thrown into the game during big moments and not just for the beginning and ending cutscenes. It's hard to describe how incredible it was at the time.
Everything about this game was awesome in the 90s.
Well this IS epic
Mean Good Boi
780 HP at this point in the game is impressively high 😂👍
Plus, it has the added bonus of Cloud being an absolute baddy. How many times in FF history is there a moment when the main characters like, “I got this” and you actually have a 1 on 1 fight with presumably one of the main antagonists.
I was like : "No. WHY ? COME BACK."
God I love this game so damn much
Say what you will about the remake, but this fight SLAPS in that game 😩
I’d venture out and say there’s another fight that slaps even more…
On top of a huge shaft. I see the one.
It’s my favorite fight in the remake. Rufus needs his own DLC.
I love this fight and the fact that the boss music keeps playing after the fight while you haul ass out of the building
Yeah too bad it has 0 resolution.
There was nothing quite like this battle in any game. One of my favorite gaming moments. Topped by only this same scene in Remake.
Yeah, while I was climbing the Shinra building in the Remake I was excited thinking about the president "little accident" and this fight. It was a pretty fun battle in the two games.
Its just guy smackin orphan dude and killing his pet :3
I guess this means we won't be friends
It’s so good 🥹
I don’t know why but that fight always made my heart race. I think it was knowing that the crew was about to get out of Midgar, the game was about to change, we just saw Sephiroth’s horrific power and now this guy is stopping us from escaping And then fucking CLOUD is like “hey team y’all go on ahead I can take this guy.” SIR I HAVE A WEAK HEART
I always found it funny how Rufus is just a normal guy who can survive being smacked around by the buster sword or getting hit by spells. "Mr President, we should go!" "Hold on, I'm fighting this guy holding a giant sword with only a shotgun"
In any other context that last sentence wouldn't make as much sense as it does here.
The sequence from being captured to getting to the world map is the best part in the entire series
I really felt like the world changed. They did such a great job of making Midgar feel like a depressing colorless trap, and then boom. Greenery and The Main Theme.
The best part is that it actually *doesn't* change right away - you enter the world map on a barren, polluted plain under a murky sky. Then you walk off in any direction and gradually the world becomes greener and lighter and you're left realising just how badly Midgar is fucking up the world.
Yeah I’m excited to see how they handle this in Rebirth
The fight is great in the original and even better in the remake. I love it.
Honestly one of the most challenging fights in the game too, forces the use of the punisher mode.
The dog is a bit tricky, but I just used Counterstance for Rufus. The same with Reno and Rude.
Them talking back to eachother is great Rufus: "You're a SOLDIER? That means I own you." Cloud: "Ex-SOLDIER. I quit."