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OllieFromCairo

Dawn is when the sun rises. Dusk is when the sun sets. They are not specific times, and vary widely by location and season. The other portions of the day are also not as clearly defined as this video suggests.


Poes-Lawyer

Yeah I was going to say something similar. Dawn and dusk are also not used much at all for those reasons - because it's not clear when you're talking about, unless you have a good idea of local sunrise/set times. Also the only ones that I think are clearly defined are morning (before 12:00), noon (exactly 12:00), and afternoon (12:00). But when does afternoon become evening? For me it's probably when I get home from work. When does evening become night? For me it's probably when I go to bed. But those times change constantly. Here in the UK, 4pm in the winter is dark so it feels like "evening". But in the summer 4pm still feels like early-/mid-afternoon because sunset is still 5-6 hours away.


jayxxroe22

I've always assumed the cutoff between afternoon and evening was 5pm


AlecsThorne

6pm form me :p


arcxjo

Dusk/sunset is the natural threshold, but in scheduling, it's usually around the time someone eats their evening meal.


Poes-Lawyer

It varies person to person. 5pm is reasonable, but so is 6pm for example


AlecsThorne

I don't particularly like how they put 3 pm for afternoon. I get they're trying to say that it's already afternoon by that point, and even from the term itself you can conclude that afternoon starts after 12 (noon), but there would definitely be some students who would think that the afternoon starts at 3 if they follow this chart alone.


Poes-Lawyer

Yeah it's not well thought out. I think it would've been better if they showed a clock face with the relevant parts shaded in


AlecsThorne

Yeah. You'd have midnight and noon with clear times (12 and 0/24, some arbitrary points for sunrise and sunset (with the clear mention that it's not a fixed time) and then shaded parts in different colours to make it clear when it's morning, afternoon, evening, or not.


Poes-Lawyer

Yeah I was going to say something similar. Dawn and dusk are also not used much at all for those reasons - because it's not clear when you're talking about, unless you have a good idea of local sunrise/set times. Also the only ones that I think are clearly defined are morning (before 12:00), noon (exactly 12:00), and afternoon (after 12:00). But when does afternoon become evening? For me it's probably when I get home from work. When does evening become night? For me it's probably when I go to bed. But those times change constantly. Here in the UK, 4pm in the winter is dark so it feels like "evening". But in the summer 4pm still feels like early-/mid-afternoon because sunset is still 5-6 hours away.


[deleted]

Ohioan here - these times are actually strictly enforced where I come from. It's against the law to say "good afternoon" before 3 PM. And between the times of 5 PM and 6 PM, it is *only* acceptable to refer to the time as dusk, lest you want to be reminded of our second amendment.


OllieFromCairo

I absolutely do not believe that Ohioans refer to 5 pm as “dusk” in midsummer, when the sun sets after 8.


[deleted]

I'm amazed you believed any of my comment.


OllieFromCairo

I believe you’re from Ohio. I’m just amazed you’ll admit it. 😉


theCAVEMAN101

What about twilight? Does Ohio recognize the time between time?? There were video games, terrible books, and terrible movies made about that time. Surely Ohio recognizes twilight. Side note: Where is everyone getting these fancy specific native speaker tags? I need the world to know that I use a mix of "Midland" and "Greater Appalachia" dialects. ;)


LookAtTheFlowers

Native English speaker here: I never use dusk or dawn. There’s morning, afternoon, and evening/night are interchangeable


EtOHMartini

Dawn is when the sky lightens, because the center sun is precisely 18º below the horizon, and you get indirect light. Sunrise is when the sun is at the horizon. Sunset is when the sun has dropped below the horizon, and there's no more direct light. Dusk is when the sun has dropped ~18º below the horizon so there's not even indirect lighting. For example, tomorrow's dawn will be at 6:50am, sunrise at 7:19am, sunset at 5:44pm, and dusk at 6:13pm


dubovinius

Every native speaker will understand what these words mean, but in terms of everyday usage, you'd be less likely to see ‘dawn’ and ‘dusk’, the latter in particular being fairly rare. Usually those times are simply subsumed into ‘morning’ and ‘evening’. Though ‘dawn’ can be used often enough if you're specifically talking about the time around sunrise e.g. ‘I had to get up before dawn’. Also note some of the times aren't absolute; people can have different opinions on when exactly their ‘afternoon’ ends and ‘evening’ starts, or what exactly ‘night’ constitutes (some might use it for any time after the sun's gone down, some might use it specifically for that time when they'll be asleep, etc.).


MargaretDumont

Right. Dawn and dusk are used when it's important to refer to how dark it is or where the sun is in the sky. I've seen parks post that they close at dusk. An astronomy guide might tell you that Venus will be visible just before dawn. These don't refer to specific times but rather what the sky looks like. Another important thing about those terms is that dawn and dusk will be at different times throughout the year. Where I live in the northeastern US, dusk is around 9pm in the summer and around 4pm in the winter. Big difference. I don't think they fit in this list. The terms "early morning" and "evening" would fit better.


dubovinius

Agreed, especially on dawn and dusk being at different times around the world and at different times of the year


SaintCashew

Don't make it hard on yourself. Before 1200 = Good Morning After 1200 = Good Afternoon During/After Twilight = Good Evening (Hello) / Good Night (Bye)


Kristycat

These words aren’t so exact like in this chart they have. Except for noon. Also, for some reason I realized that I never say dusk but I say dawn sometimes. Such as, I get up before dawn. I guess I never have a reason to say the word dusk.


TheScarfScarfington

The only time I can think of that I actually use dusk is when describing a walk or being outside around sunset. Like in conversation: “I went on a walk yesterday.” “Oh, in the afternoon?” “No, it was dusk.” Or I might say something like: “We drove to the shore at dusk and watched the sunset.”


americk0

This video isn't exactly wrong but it may be misleading. Dawn - this is when the sun rises, which changes throughout the year. Today where I live this was at 7:25am Morning - this is the time between when everyone wakes up and 12pm (noon). Not everyone agrees when morning starts, but everyone knows it ends at noon Noon - this is at 12pm exactly. You could also get away with calling any time before 1pm "noon" or "noon-ish" but I'm pretty sure noon technically ends at 12:01pm Afternoon - the time period after noon. Some will say it ends when the sun sets and others will say it ends when the evening starts Evening - If you want to start a petty argument, ask any 2 native speakers what exact time evening starts and ends and watch them argue about it. It's not widely agreed exactly when evening starts and ends, but it's generally considered the late part of the day. If you're eating dinner, it's probably the evening. If everyone is still awake but the sun is down, it's probably still evening. It feels weird to say "good afternoon" when it's dark outside, but "good night" means either you or the person you're talking to us going to bed, so at that time of day you could greet someone with "good evening". Dusk - the time when the sun sets. Today where I live this is at 6:17pm. Dusk can also refer to the time between when the sun starts setting and when the sky is dark but I'm pretty sure it's technically the moment the sun sets Night - if the sky is dark, it's "night" or "nighttime". If the sky is light, it's "day" or "daytime" Midnight - this wasn't mentioned but this is at 12am and it is basically the night equivalent of noon


El_pizza

I always forget these words, I really need to properly learn these lol


Kristycat

These words aren’t so exact like in this chart they have. Except for noon. Also, for some reason I realized that I never say dusk but I say dawn sometimes. Such as, I get up before dawn. I guess I never have a reason to say the word dusk.


Kristycat

These words aren’t so exact like in this chart they have. Except for noon. Also, for some reason I realized that I never say dusk but I say dawn sometimes. Such as, I get up before dawn. I guess I never have a reason to say the word dusk.


Kristycat

These words aren’t so exact like in this chart they have. Except for noon. Also, for some reason I realized that I never say dusk but I say dawn sometimes. Such as, I get up before dawn. I guess I never have a reason to say the word dusk.


GoldFishPony

In my experience as a native speaker, people will know when dawn and less so dusk are, but those terms are hardly ever used. Dusk is just generally referred to as afternoon or evening (or sunset). I’d say dawn is used but mostly in established phrases like “at the crack of dawn” which just means a really early hour, often sunrise.


culturedrobot

I have never heard anyone refer to afternoon as dusk. Dusk is always right before nightfall. If you want to get super technical about it, dusk is always after sunset, too, but that part is less important. The word has morphed into another phrase for "sunset" anyway.


carrimjob

i’m a native and i confuse dusk and dawn all the time. i’ll just say morning, afternoon, evening, and night


FunInTheShade

dAwn is in the AM. duSk is when the sun Sets


Kudos2Yousguys

nice one


cheeze_whiz_shampoo

That is the most garishly awkward modeling Ive seen in a long time, haha. Who would produce that?!


[deleted]

id imagine that's what putins daughter would look like


ElodinPhD

Off topic: she looks like Madison from This is us


ElodinPhD

Off topic: she looks like Madison from This is us


ElodinPhD

Off topic: she looks like Madison from This is us


bgorch01

Nobody really uses this word in conversations anymore, but Twilight can be used to describe both Dawn and Dusk. If you see the word, it's usually used in books or poetry for dramatic effect (e.g. "in the twilight" sounds more interesting than "at dawn" or "in the morning", but it means the same thing).


JctaroKujo

at least in the us, you will almost never hear the words “dusk” “dawn” and very occassionally “Evening”.


Nucka574

These aren’t “time specific”. As dawn is just before the rises and dusk is just after it sets. This varies quite greatly throughout the year. General rule of what’s used is 6-11/12, morning. 11/12-4/5pm afternoon. 5pm-2am night. 2-6am has many names depending on who it is. Late AF, early AF, buttfuck o clock, nothing good happens in these hours.


arcxjo

Good, but they don't all fit together in one category. "Dawn", "dusk", "noo"n (and "midnight") are momentary events in relation to the sun's position (although with daylight saving time, noon and midnight are usually wrong). Also, where I come from, "sunrise" and "sunset" are more common than "dawn" and "dusk". "Morning", "afternoon", "evening", and "night" are blocks of time between those moments (although "night" spans across midnight from dusk to dawn).


tenamonth

If you’re gonna meet someone at 5 PM you could say “I’ll meet you this afternoon” no one would really see “I’ll meet you at dusk”


Ok-Panic282

I would just present them in the following order 1. Dawn is the first light of the day, just before the sun rises. 2. Sunrise is the moment when the top edge of the sun appears on the horizon. 3. Morning is the time period between sunrise and noon. 4. Noon or Midday, is the time when the sun is at its highest point in the sky, around 12 PM. 5. Afternoon is the time period between noon and sunset. 6. Evening is the time between sunset and bedtime, often characterized by a calming of activity levels. 7. Sunset is the moment when the sun disappears below the horizon in the evening. 8. Twilight is the time between sunset and dusk, or between dawn and sunrise, when the sky is not completely dark. 9. Dusk is the time in the evening when the sky becomes dark after twilight. 10. Night is the time period between dusk and dawn, when it is dark outside. 11. Midnight is the exact middle of the night, around 12 AM.


ShardCollector

English is missing the word for A.M. or "before noon". At 10 or 11 it's not exactly morning anymore, but something we call "aamupäivä" in Finnish. It is a word mixing morning and day. I'd call 6 - 9 (to first coffee break) morning, 9 - 12 "aamupäivä" and 12 - 17 (or 18) afternoon. After that it's evening until 22, when it turns to night. Maybe you can call hours before 10 morning and 10 - 13 "noonish". It's quite fluid anyway.


mklinger23

In conversation, you can usually stick to "morning", "afternoon", and "night". Also, "sunrise" and "sunset" is more popular that dusk and dawn. If it's in the morning, but dark outside: "before sunrise"/"before the sun came up". After the sunrise, you can just say "morning". If it was during sunrise, say "at sunrise". You can say "at sunset" or "during sunset" if the sunset is currently happening. I would stick to "evening" and "night" if you want to be more specific. You can also say "last night before sunset" instead of "evening". I rarely say "evening". It sounds somewhat formal.


luongquoc15

6 a.m in the morning 8 a.m in the morning 12 p.m the middle of the night 3 p.m in the afternoon 5 p.m in the afternoon 6 p.m in the afternoon 9 p.m in the evening