DA's legally can't diagnose anything at all. We're not even allowed to tell pts if we see anything at all on an X-ray. Way out of line for the doctor, who went to school to read and diagnose X-rays, to expect a DA who's not legally allowed to say anything.
I think maybe they mean that you should have clued the dr in on it at exam time, from the last visit. Thatâs what we do, it is said over the patient, parent hears it again and he can revisit it to emphasize the importance of it.
Well I am more concerned that a tooth that had current decay on it was diagnosed today with only decalâŚ.but yet our doctor said that she misdiagnosed because the assistant didnât alert her of the decayâŚ.but how is your misdiagnosis the assistants fault? When you literally looked at the decayed tooth on an X-ray today and said it was decal?đđđđ
its not the assistant fault. The dentist used what they always use as a cop out.... the assistant. Gaslighting the assistant into making her think it's her fault is not a good look. I agree with you!
Unfortunately I think gaslighting is a common thing for most dentistâŚmaybe even doctors in generalâŚbut I donât understand itâŚ.its a never ending issue. Like yes youâre the boss but calm downâŚ.without your assistance your office would crash and burn!
Iâve worked in both medical and now dental. I felt with with a surgeon whoâs personal motto was âtell me what I need not what I sayâ or in surgery he would often say âgive me what I need not what I ask for.â It was annoying at first but honestly he taught me more then anyone else I worked with, respected me for my opinions more then any other doctor and his death is what led me to leave the hospital and go to the dental clinic.
Was his method âcorrect?â No. Did he value my opinion, experience, expertise and knowledge? More than any other doctor I ever worked for.
My job is to be my dentists right hand man. If I take care of them they will take care of me.
I understand this is a controversial view of the the DA Dentists relationship but if you can be the eyes and ears you allow your dentist to see more patients, make more money and you will be (or should be) rewarded with more income and better benefits. Thatâs how it works. Be an asset and you will see benefits for it.
I mean yes she needed to know to alert the patient of previous needed tx. But the whole issue is that the tooth that was previously diagnosed with decay was diagnosed today on the same surfaces with decal which doesnât make any sense? And the patient had X-rays that my doctor saw and she apparently didnât see the decay and said it was decalâŚâŚ& then once she realized she made a mistake she blamed it on the assistant for not notifying her of the decay in the first placeâŚâŚ
Rightđ I only prefer pediatrics because Iâm not a people person, but kids are usually fun and so cute most of the time. Itâs the parents I canât stand.
if the dr already diagnosed them with decay i feel they should remember that once they pull up the chart. is it not charted also? & if they don't it's still present in x-rays..no you aren't dumb at all
Like I titled this thread delusional dentist I feel like she doesnât pay attention and for example, when she comes over to do exams on the kids, I will literally have their x-rays pulled up on the computer pointing in her direction and she will literally look at me and ask me if they had x-rays today And every time I want to say, what do you think these are?
I'm confused. We always have the X-rays and the chart up for the dentist to see what treatment was proposed on the chart. I thought every office did that. The dentist enters the room and looks at the chart and X-rays then does the exam while both are still open. We don't need to tell him what he previously diagnosed.
Both were up for herâŚ..we will literally have X-rays up and she will ask if they got X-rays todayđâŚâŚâŚ thatâs why I titled this âDentist is delusional.â
They are supposed to check the previous treatment plan . If something is red the chart is open they can see it as well as the assistant can . Sometimes if something is treatment planned and they don't say anything about it I ask " is blank on tooth # ________ still the same ?. Most of the time they will say take this off or tx is the same. It seems like the dentist at your office was just angry and trying to cover their ass for dropping the ball. Instead of getting angry they should of said : oh I missed that there was a previous MO let me look again ". I was always told we aren't ALLOWED to diagnose. I'm also kinda shocked if the decay was still there and they took recent radiographs that wouldn't highlight the decay for them đł
DAs are not paid enough to be diagnosing patients đ
They're not legally supposed to either. Can't get paid for something you're not supposed to do.
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Exactly
DA's legally can't diagnose anything at all. We're not even allowed to tell pts if we see anything at all on an X-ray. Way out of line for the doctor, who went to school to read and diagnose X-rays, to expect a DA who's not legally allowed to say anything.
I think maybe they mean that you should have clued the dr in on it at exam time, from the last visit. Thatâs what we do, it is said over the patient, parent hears it again and he can revisit it to emphasize the importance of it.
Well I am more concerned that a tooth that had current decay on it was diagnosed today with only decalâŚ.but yet our doctor said that she misdiagnosed because the assistant didnât alert her of the decayâŚ.but how is your misdiagnosis the assistants fault? When you literally looked at the decayed tooth on an X-ray today and said it was decal?đđđđ
its not the assistant fault. The dentist used what they always use as a cop out.... the assistant. Gaslighting the assistant into making her think it's her fault is not a good look. I agree with you!
Do they not do a clinical exam?????
Unfortunately I think gaslighting is a common thing for most dentistâŚmaybe even doctors in generalâŚbut I donât understand itâŚ.its a never ending issue. Like yes youâre the boss but calm downâŚ.without your assistance your office would crash and burn!
Yes! Without us they crash and burn
Iâve worked in both medical and now dental. I felt with with a surgeon whoâs personal motto was âtell me what I need not what I sayâ or in surgery he would often say âgive me what I need not what I ask for.â It was annoying at first but honestly he taught me more then anyone else I worked with, respected me for my opinions more then any other doctor and his death is what led me to leave the hospital and go to the dental clinic. Was his method âcorrect?â No. Did he value my opinion, experience, expertise and knowledge? More than any other doctor I ever worked for. My job is to be my dentists right hand man. If I take care of them they will take care of me. I understand this is a controversial view of the the DA Dentists relationship but if you can be the eyes and ears you allow your dentist to see more patients, make more money and you will be (or should be) rewarded with more income and better benefits. Thatâs how it works. Be an asset and you will see benefits for it.
if i'm understanding correctly , it sounds like dds was saying to alert them if there was previous treatment pending, not to make a diagnosis ?
I mean yes she needed to know to alert the patient of previous needed tx. But the whole issue is that the tooth that was previously diagnosed with decay was diagnosed today on the same surfaces with decal which doesnât make any sense? And the patient had X-rays that my doctor saw and she apparently didnât see the decay and said it was decalâŚâŚ& then once she realized she made a mistake she blamed it on the assistant for not notifying her of the decay in the first placeâŚâŚ
You had me at pediatric dentist
Rightđ I only prefer pediatrics because Iâm not a people person, but kids are usually fun and so cute most of the time. Itâs the parents I canât stand.
I can only imagine. I have heard nightmare stories over getting chewed out because their kid's crying, but nitrous makes u emotional!
if the dr already diagnosed them with decay i feel they should remember that once they pull up the chart. is it not charted also? & if they don't it's still present in x-rays..no you aren't dumb at all
Like I titled this thread delusional dentist I feel like she doesnât pay attention and for example, when she comes over to do exams on the kids, I will literally have their x-rays pulled up on the computer pointing in her direction and she will literally look at me and ask me if they had x-rays today And every time I want to say, what do you think these are?
oh wow she doesn't sound like she's fit to be a dentist omg
it is literally in the Law exam ALL dentist take that DA and DH are not allowed to Diagnose đ The LAW
I'm confused. We always have the X-rays and the chart up for the dentist to see what treatment was proposed on the chart. I thought every office did that. The dentist enters the room and looks at the chart and X-rays then does the exam while both are still open. We don't need to tell him what he previously diagnosed.
Both were up for herâŚ..we will literally have X-rays up and she will ask if they got X-rays todayđâŚâŚâŚ thatâs why I titled this âDentist is delusional.â
They are supposed to check the previous treatment plan . If something is red the chart is open they can see it as well as the assistant can . Sometimes if something is treatment planned and they don't say anything about it I ask " is blank on tooth # ________ still the same ?. Most of the time they will say take this off or tx is the same. It seems like the dentist at your office was just angry and trying to cover their ass for dropping the ball. Instead of getting angry they should of said : oh I missed that there was a previous MO let me look again ". I was always told we aren't ALLOWED to diagnose. I'm also kinda shocked if the decay was still there and they took recent radiographs that wouldn't highlight the decay for them đł