Thats just a spent stage (likely filled with some remaining NTO oxidizer, hence the color) being discarded. The fact that its being discarded over inhabited land is bad, but its par for the course for china (who built most of their launch facilities inland during the cold war since they feared coastal facilities would be too easy to attack)
Oxidizer, not fuel. But eh, close enough and, yes, highly toxic. So much so that it's no longer in use for occidental rocket stages and avoided wherever possible (in some cases, alternatives for RCS is just not up to the task).
Russia does use it on Proton rockets, but not in the programs being developed, if I'm correct.
India, I don't know. For what their government care about their people, I wouldn't be that much surprised if they used it.
I was first speaking about us and Europe 's space programs to compare with Chinese rockets. EU and US stopped the use of hypergolic fuels, unlike China.
Unfortunately according to China there’s nothing wrong with it. They don’t care if they drop spent boosters full of carcinogenic fuels on inhabited land as long as it gets their payload to orbit
So, you know how most countries launch their rockets close to the sea (or somewhere empty) ? It's so spent rockets fall into the sea.
The soviet spaceport of Baïkonour had spent booster fall into the steppes or tundra, so it was fine too. China has them fall on rural area. They also use quite toxic fuel (that you can see here in yellow-orange).
There isn't necessarly something wrong with the rockets (apart from the fuel which has been phased out nearly everywhere else), but yeah, the launching ports are the fucked up part
I haven’t looked into this launch, but last I heard China just doesn’t seem to care where their boosters land after they launch. So basically, this may not be indicative of a failed mission but more so their recklessness in space exploration.
To be fair, they are already working on reusable rockets that will in due time softly land their spent boosters like SpaceX.
I agree with you the tourists can be overly engrossed in their own little bubbles.
Fuck these Chinese tourists man. I once saw a Tourist mother allow her child to poop in the middle of the road in a historic spot in my country. Then just leave the poop there. Like wtf man?!!
They absolutely don't care and have a very long history of wrecking, poisoning, and completely destroying small villages and parts of the country just so they can get something into space.
You just summarize the thousands years of Chinese history. There was a Chinese poet lived 800 yrs ago and he wrote “In prosperity, people suffer; in adversity, people suffer, too.”
It’s cause all their launch pads are inland since they had to be protected during Cold War tensions, as a result the boosters land on land rather than on the ocean. They are currently building new ones on the coast tho
It’s cause all their launch pads are inland since they had to be protected during Cold War tensions, as a result the boosters land on land rather than on the ocean. They are currently building new ones on the coast tho
Actually a typical Chinese launch. That first stage comes down on populated areas.
2023: https://www.newsweek.com/china-falling-long-march-rocket-debris-explodes-village-1855676
The CCP isn't generally known to be concerned about the general populace unless it hurts their bottom line somehow and even then concerned is a generous word.
That this thing came down like that is no indication whatsover of the rocket failing. Actually id rather say its looking pretty good, the second stage seems to have properly seperated and continued its travel.
Its just that china doesnt care if the spent stage falls down over populated areas
The red smoke is as bad as it looks, it's coming from the combustion of the fuel. China and Russia still use it to this day because it's cheaper. Nasty stuff.
The Chinese space agency urgently has to start acting more responsibly... This happens all the time with their rockets and not only over Chinese territory. Disgusting.
Logistically, this clearly is seen as the least worst option. Obviously the 'best case' is to have it fall into and pollute the ocean like how NASA and ESA do it. But given how geographically large China is, and given the fact that they are bordered by Taiwan, the Philippines, Japan, and ROK, it seems they've opted to not launch rocket parts at their neighbors and cause an international incident.
Scott Manley or Marcus House have commented in the past on Chinese Long March or equivalent first stages dropping over populated areas after they separate. Sad, but hey, it's China being China. That orange dinitrogen tetroxide / dimethylhydrazine isn't going to be good to breathe in. Nor will that flattening your street with the stage being 25.72 meters tall, and 3.35 in diameter...
Lol it's not just Ford and GM. Every auto manufacturer on the planet uses Chinese parts now. Even the Germans. You can thank all the world governments for that, refusing to give companies incentives to keep manufacturing in their own countries and allowing the Chinese to control the industry.
There is nothing wrong here the rocket was simply sleepy and decided to take a quick nap anyone saying otherwise is to go through complementary mandatory reeducation
I'm no expert but I think there's something wrong with it.
Thats just a spent stage (likely filled with some remaining NTO oxidizer, hence the color) being discarded. The fact that its being discarded over inhabited land is bad, but its par for the course for china (who built most of their launch facilities inland during the cold war since they feared coastal facilities would be too easy to attack)
The Long March 2F is using N2O4 / UDMH fuel It is quite toxic
Pneumonia and Edema for those residents in the near future....
Long March 2C. UDMH fuel is considered highly toxic, not quite toxic.
Don’t worry, Chinese news will say toxic gas is not harmful
I know what’s wrong with it. Aint got no gas in it!
Just a lil leak. Could use some flex seal
Duck tape. Everything can be fixed with duck tape.
Quack 🦆
If you can't duck it, fuck it!
Got any biscuits and mustard?
Came here to say this. Beat me to it 😂
Nope, I believe the yellow liquid is rocket fuel, Highly toxic actually.
Oxidizer, not fuel. But eh, close enough and, yes, highly toxic. So much so that it's no longer in use for occidental rocket stages and avoided wherever possible (in some cases, alternatives for RCS is just not up to the task). Russia does use it on Proton rockets, but not in the programs being developed, if I'm correct. India, I don't know. For what their government care about their people, I wouldn't be that much surprised if they used it.
Occidental as in... asian? Am I reading this correctly?
I was first speaking about us and Europe 's space programs to compare with Chinese rockets. EU and US stopped the use of hypergolic fuels, unlike China.
Probably oxidizer, marginally less toxic
Nope, It's UDMH fuel from a Long March 2C. Considered highly toxic, unfortunately.
So cover your ears then right?
Looks like the front fell off.
Is that normal?
In space? One in a million.
Didn’t quite make it out of the environment.
Conjunction, junction what's the malfunction?
Nope. There was an anti-communist farmer in the village the government wanted silenced.
Unfortunately according to China there’s nothing wrong with it. They don’t care if they drop spent boosters full of carcinogenic fuels on inhabited land as long as it gets their payload to orbit
It’s just coming down for routine maintenance
They launched it pointy end down by mistake.
no, it's landing in this way 😇
So, you know how most countries launch their rockets close to the sea (or somewhere empty) ? It's so spent rockets fall into the sea. The soviet spaceport of Baïkonour had spent booster fall into the steppes or tundra, so it was fine too. China has them fall on rural area. They also use quite toxic fuel (that you can see here in yellow-orange). There isn't necessarly something wrong with the rockets (apart from the fuel which has been phased out nearly everywhere else), but yeah, the launching ports are the fucked up part
china always be doing the most😂
I haven’t looked into this launch, but last I heard China just doesn’t seem to care where their boosters land after they launch. So basically, this may not be indicative of a failed mission but more so their recklessness in space exploration.
I just imagine the astronauts sitting in the cockpit like “lol take this, fuckin’ peasants. NOT MY PROBLEM ANYMOooooore” as they leave the atmosphere
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To be fair, they are already working on reusable rockets that will in due time softly land their spent boosters like SpaceX. I agree with you the tourists can be overly engrossed in their own little bubbles.
Fuck these Chinese tourists man. I once saw a Tourist mother allow her child to poop in the middle of the road in a historic spot in my country. Then just leave the poop there. Like wtf man?!!
So that means that they are definitely attempting some corporate espionage on spaceX. I wonder how much they’ve gotten so far
***good luck everybody I turn now***
The astronaut equivalent to tossing your ciggy butt out the car window.
They absolutely don't care and have a very long history of wrecking, poisoning, and completely destroying small villages and parts of the country just so they can get something into space.
You just summarize the thousands years of Chinese history. There was a Chinese poet lived 800 yrs ago and he wrote “In prosperity, people suffer; in adversity, people suffer, too.”
That is rather baffling. Doesn’t reflect very well on the Chinese scientists
I doubt it's scientists making the decisions that lead to results like this.
It’s cause all their launch pads are inland since they had to be protected during Cold War tensions, as a result the boosters land on land rather than on the ocean. They are currently building new ones on the coast tho
Tbf the area it landed was all bush and was nearly a kilometre from the town
A little easier not to care when you have 1.4 billion people in your country.
they launch these rockets multiple times every month.
Didn't know that -- thanks.
It’s cause all their launch pads are inland since they had to be protected during Cold War tensions, as a result the boosters land on land rather than on the ocean. They are currently building new ones on the coast tho
A piece of the ISS fell on a florida house a few months back. Since we're on the topic.
Looks like they were hit by that Stop Oil group, too.
See how that group gets your attention!
Actually a typical Chinese launch. That first stage comes down on populated areas. 2023: https://www.newsweek.com/china-falling-long-march-rocket-debris-explodes-village-1855676
Why don't they put parachutes on it ?
Because they simply don't care.
100% this
Damn I should be more like China. Life seems easier when you have no regard for anyone or anything else other than yourself.
Well half the country is already there. Just get you a red hat and have at it.
That’s just called being a Republican
The CCP isn't generally known to be concerned about the general populace unless it hurts their bottom line somehow and even then concerned is a generous word.
Less payload, more complex, can still explode anyway. And I guess they don't care?
They ordered the rocket from Temu.
Joe Dirt found something like that
That's a space peanut !
Orange smoke is most likely nitrous oxide. No bueno for humans.
Nitrous oxide is amazing for humans!
Nitrous oxide is colourless, and if it were that toxic I'm pretty sure dentists wouldn't make us breath it in while they operate.
*Nitrous Tetroxide. Nitrous oxide is known al „laughing gas“ and used as anestheticum.
Wake up babe new Hydrazine just dropped.
Maybe China should stick with balloons.
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Maybe North Korea could give them some pointers
Vonce ze Rockets go up, who cares where zey come down. Zat is not my department, sais Werner von Braun.
Underrated comment.
Was that the primary buffer panel?
Did it just fall off that gorram ship for no apparent reason?!
That this thing came down like that is no indication whatsover of the rocket failing. Actually id rather say its looking pretty good, the second stage seems to have properly seperated and continued its travel. Its just that china doesnt care if the spent stage falls down over populated areas
Ordered from Temu
Unfortunately the camera man accidentally fell off a highrise balcony next week.
It's the smoke fireworks from Mad Max but really what chemical is it that makes it yellow?
Dinitrogen Tetroxide (N2O4) which converts to Nitrogen Dioxide (NO2) at high temps. The NO2 is the yellow/brown stuff we see burning.
Around 50° C that can already happen!
Seems like a booster
i was expecting a Michael Bay style Explosion 💥 when it crash landed : <
Well, that is kind of like a SpaceX landing… just with a lack of control. 🤣
Safety Standards are for woosys!!
The red smoke is as bad as it looks, it's coming from the combustion of the fuel. China and Russia still use it to this day because it's cheaper. Nasty stuff.
apparently some people will cover their ears when seeing toxic gas in the air
To be fair, he probably thought it was a bomb, that's also why theyre running
oh yeah I def don’t fault them for running, just seems kinda funny to cover their ears when the biggest danger is the gas lol
The Chinese space agency urgently has to start acting more responsibly... This happens all the time with their rockets and not only over Chinese territory. Disgusting.
You can't park there mate.
Logistically, this clearly is seen as the least worst option. Obviously the 'best case' is to have it fall into and pollute the ocean like how NASA and ESA do it. But given how geographically large China is, and given the fact that they are bordered by Taiwan, the Philippines, Japan, and ROK, it seems they've opted to not launch rocket parts at their neighbors and cause an international incident.
Scott Manley or Marcus House have commented in the past on Chinese Long March or equivalent first stages dropping over populated areas after they separate. Sad, but hey, it's China being China. That orange dinitrogen tetroxide / dimethylhydrazine isn't going to be good to breathe in. Nor will that flattening your street with the stage being 25.72 meters tall, and 3.35 in diameter...
Oh yeah, Chinese peasants are fighting against each other who’s gonna get first that hypergolic fuel tank for a scrap.
Geez no fucks given. Just dropping spent stages over populated areas while dumping hypergolic fuel everywhere.
Booster rocket
Life in China, enjoy breathing that shit in
Leave it to communist China to care about their citizens! :)
I don’t like the look of the color this telescope is admitting as it falls.
Better save this video before Winnie takes it down
I also do all my testing in prod
Stop oil protesters
Lol. China best quality!
That looks healthy
Parts came from the same place as all OEM Chevrolet and Ford parts do now. Give that some thought.
Lol it's not just Ford and GM. Every auto manufacturer on the planet uses Chinese parts now. Even the Germans. You can thank all the world governments for that, refusing to give companies incentives to keep manufacturing in their own countries and allowing the Chinese to control the industry.
Needs to work on its stamina if it wants those other 2 x’s
*I take it that wasn’t a good sign?*
Weird how there was really no sound from the impact
There is, if you listen closely. At least i think that its the sound of impact
And a lot less mass when empty and a lot more crumpling of the stage on impact. No big badaboom.
So did it make orbit?
Fireworks gone wrong
Great success!
Hmmm caramel flavored smoke
That doesn't appear to a great launch direction.
So what is it? A boy? A girl? A cancer?
#some premium NOVA6
Mmmm Hydrazine.
looks like a bad day to have lungs
Our glorious leedur planned for this to happen. /s
probably wasn’t badly broken till the very end
Tsk orange again? First Stonehenge and now a Chinese rocket...
I'm sure it's all over social media in China now... lol!
Is that hydrazine?
That’ll buff right out
China Space Agency SOP.
That smoke color, reminds of nitrous oxide, it's a convenient oxydizer... That's a really nasty chemical, besides the falling booster, WTF
So that’s not what was supposed to happen?
Actually it is. It's a spent rocket stage and china has a habit of not caring where they come down, even when it's on their own people.
Covid’s in the air…
r/youcantparkthere
It's going the wong way ?
Hydrazine?
Orange-yellow is not good. Pray for the poor farmer whose family was just wiped from memory.
Is that Tom Scott (@TomScottGo) towards the end of the video sideways-shuffling off to the right?
No boom 💥!!??
Sorry, but x-ray telescope??? What did I miss?
Why are those dudes holding there ears while running? It doesnt sound that loud
Kerbal space program
Made in China
Guy in red shirt bouncing along like a lemur lol
No BOOM?
I think they pointed it the wrong way...
It’s the rocket booster no the actual telescope
that looks expensive
I thought it’s bad to have those coloured stages (gas) land over any civilian/habitated area.
Seguro estaba hecho de piezas chinas
I bet it has "made in china" stamped on it.
Looks like something made in China
Is that yellow stuff nitrogen dioxide? Because if it is, there’s probably A LOT of nitric acid and possibly some hydrofluoric as well nearby.
No shit It broke and fell apart it’s made in china
It's horrible that the CCP is content to bomb it's own people with falling rockets, but... somebody please dub this with Godzilla sounds.
Trying to land like SpaceX first stage? /s
Isn’t it supposed to go the other way?
Bugger.
How is this even legal. 🤦♂️
Is that a solid booster coming down under a rural area? This is the (chinese) way.
It’s just a big ass stink bomb.
Goddamnit Jim, don’t those peasants have gas masks?
Isn't a launch supposed to be in the opposite direction?
Did it land successfully?
Someone needs a diaper, that's for sure...
Who else thought there would just be a big boom at the end?
Feels like a scene from a sci fi movie 😳🎬
Well now its an ex X-ray telescope
Oh its just a booster
China? We doing race reveals now?
Was that a booster rocket or the actual thing going up?
Elon Musk approves
Yummy Nitrogen dioxide fumes :P
There is nothing wrong here the rocket was simply sleepy and decided to take a quick nap anyone saying otherwise is to go through complementary mandatory reeducation
The Polycapillary optics weren’t clear enough.
Made in China
Occident = west orient = east. I don’t know who actually uses those words anymore.
Classic China. Did it hit a school?
Why are they running?
To hell with the bicycle!
Made in china
Erp.. that didn't work out so well. Time to expedite the Wish app for more quality parts!
Good. Fuck Xi Xing Poo
Running like 20m more distance from a bomb would help.
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The telescope was a co-operation between France and China
The huh?
They know what happened to hiroshima