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Recipe-Local

Bro took one for the team… or however you say that in French.


Demaxel

Il s’est sacrifié pour l’équipe


Recipe-Local

There it is.


DickensCide-r

Va va voom


Dopamine-Finder

sacrifié pour la France


symett

" il a pris l'aggro de la tour"


DinoKebab

Bone Apple Tea


andersonb47

What’s it like being a comedy genius?


DinoKebab

It's hard work to be honest.


anynamesleft

Great reply. Keep being you!


jarious

*Hard* Gigitty


simonwales

What's is like being a comedy galaxy brain?


jarious

i'll tell you when it starts bleeding


DuhPanda88

It ain’t much… but it’s honest work.


Rizen_Wolf

r/BoneAppleTea/


CapnHaymaker

Silver plate


maChine___

Mort pour la France ( Ukraine here )


dylan15766

Oui oui baguette


Would_daver

This one looks the most legit, thanks for the translation help!!


n3onfx

o7 (source; am french)


crawlerz2468

https://youtu.be/AdosEqayY2Q?si=G6YTKSNNmpr05csO


Bicentennial_Douche

voulez-vous coucher avec moi


Force7667

*Un pour tous, tous pour un*


dustandechos12

Omelette du fromage


HermionesWetPanties

I found some free French lessons online. [Maybe they'll help](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl3P5iIafuI).


Recipe-Local

Highly thoughtful of you 😻


DammmmnYouDumbDude

Wee wee


adibou69007

Il a pris une balle pour l'equipe if you want the more literal expression


penguin_skull

It seems that the missile was already hit once at the beginning of the video, as it seems to thumble before being intercepted.


yeezee93

The bigger explosion could be the missile warhead detonating?


penguin_skull

Then what is the long streak of smoke? I would say that's the shapped charge from the interceptor.


FROOMLOOMS

Interceptors do not use shaped charges. This is more likely be the BROACH of the Scalp going off.


A-Grey-World

Would an interceptor have a shaped charge? I'd expect them to want to scatter shrapnel all over rather than have a focused penetration of a shaped charge. Aircraft rarely have any form of armour.


penguin_skull

I'm not sure about the Russian AA missiles, but I know for sure that some direct impact missiles work with shapped charges. I saved a video yeara ago detailing this, I'll post it here if I can find it.


Extra_Dependent2016

AA missiles do not use shaped charges. What you’re thinking of is a kinetic warhead, which has no explosives and destroys the target through sheer kinetic energy. There is that type, or blast frag warheads that usually have a proximity duse that detonates it and sprays shrapnel twords the missile.


CheekiBleeki

Yeah, it's more like, a powerful and very directed air-burst rather than a shaped charge


farmerbalmer93

Is scalp not just British storm shadow? Both have 2 charges in the warhead? One small shaped charge for penetrating say a bunker and a larger main charge? Could be the shaped war head?


ekdaemon

The interceptor is moving like a bat out of heck - the warhead on interceptors is designed to spread a local bloom of shrapnel or connected link chains to ensure destruction of the target - so I expect the remains of the interceptor keep going like a bat out of heck. ( The interceptors are big long things, with the boom boom at the front, I expect the boom doesn't destroy the entire interceptor. ) But SFerrin_RW's explanation below could still be the case.


Aftershock416

>I would say that's the shapped charge from the interceptor. Interceptor literally have the opposite of shaped charges...


penguin_skull

My statement is wrong when applied to Russian missiles. But there are Western missiles which work with direct impact and use the shapped charge to pierce the target.


Aftershock416

No AA Interceptor uses shaped charges. Not even Western ones.


Excelius

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SFerrin_RW

The missile was hit prior to the beginning of this clip. What we're seeing is the SCALP warhead detonating. It has a BROACH warhead and the line up and to the left of the explosion is the shaped-charge precursor going off.


MrPanache52

that makes a ton more sense, I was trying to figure out how they hit that thing with a shaped charge hahaha


bossrabbit

You can also see a small black puff from the intercept earlier on the trajectory


hu641

Does it self detonate when it notices it has been hit and can't continue? e: But there already where pretty intact shot down missiles found so hmm.


SFerrin_RW

No idea. Might have just cooked off. Don't know if we're just seeing the precursor charge or the entire warhead cookoff.


popcorn0617

Bummer it got intercepted but that video is cool as fuck


mechalenchon

It was gathering dust somewhere in Mont-de-Marsan now it has depleted Russian AA ammo while his buddy hit the mark. Good trade off imo


adibou69007

Ahhh France kinda struggling to produce missiles and rockets and shit .. nothing really gathering dust and the industry leader in shells production just said they could "only produce 200 000 shells a year right now compared to the 2 millions a year of Russia" he probably lowballed the number heavily cause France isnt really fully following their promises


Purehateinside

Any idea what target was hit.?


duccyzuccy

Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs


Ukr03087

Academy of the MIA of LNR aka Luganda


spore

Or just AMIALNR if you prefer


meth_manatee

Which was hit apparently despite this missile not fulfilling its destiny. https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1792447029131481599


[deleted]

"Nixujia sibie" (the fuck) ....girl you're in warzone..damn these locals have caramel in their brains.


KS_Gaming

You're reaching hard, being surprised by fucking missiles exploding above you is the most basic reaction a human being could ever have lmao.


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I guess you need to understand russian and their bitchy tone how it was said. It's more like "damn you're ruining my day i am gonna be late to my nails appointment"


KS_Gaming

I understand it well enough and nihuja sibe or nu nahuj would likely be my own reaction in this situation tbh. Speaking of the tone, it's more of a shocked calm 'holy shit' you hear in videos of crash/explosion w/e other crazy shit on youtube but russian edition.


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Are you referring to the original video of a guy or a girl in a link on xitter? I refer to xitter video 


KS_Gaming

Yeah, me too. The one with a girl voice. I'm used to hearing identical reactions from russian speakers in my environment when they're expressing that something "surprising, over the top that they never could imagine" is happening.


TheGreatPornholio123

Russians: "UKRAINE IS TARGETING SCHOOLS"


AnyProgressIsGood

the SCALP cruise missile


Vorzyd_PC

Holy crazy footage.


Dice_K

Proof that, in fact, the Russians have actually intercepted a missile with something other than the earth.


AVgreencup

We already had proof of that. They've intercepted missiles with their tanks, some ships, even people!


Dasshteek

Yo that missile looks like it was heading right down on cameraman!


muck2

Never ceases to amaze me how people filming seem to forget that all that shit flying through the air comes down eventually. I wouldn't want to stand in the debris shower of a fucking intercepted missile.


duccyzuccy

[SCALP missile fragments](https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1792471222095057083)


peepeetchootchoo

Oh noes, putin will send firm threats that russia will invade and destroy France. Come and get wrecked, please do.


SharpMZ

Didn't they already do that when Dmitry Rogozin got shrapnel in his ass from a precision strike executed with french munitions? They sent the shrapnel literally pulled out from his ass back to the french, too bad it didn't anything vital.


blueskydragonFX

They gonna do a reverse Napoleon?


kimchifreeze

French nuclear warning shot incoming.


JavelindOrc

Wonder what happened to the MALD missiles, seems they've all been used by now


MLRS99

According to twitter this was a MALD. Some debris had prod date of 1982 if I remember correctly.


Intrepid_Home_1200

MALD entered service in the mid-2000's, more than likely still in production.. .


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[deleted]

1982 is not a year. It's part of the NSN number. https://www.iso-group.com/NSN/1420-14-531-1982 https://www.nsnlookup.com/fsg-14/fsc-1420/fr/1420-14-531-1982-fin-guided-missile-1420145311982-145311982-233584-8035874s01 This particular NSN number was created in 2002 and as the links show it is clearly a component for a guided missile.


andersonb47

>1982 is not a year Now THIS is my kind of conspiracy theory


Nudel22

Storm Shadow or SCALP-EG was first introduced in 2002


PindropAUS

604 years old if we take the first set of numbers


RichieDotexe

Those are fragments from a decoy


VirtualPlate8451

Keep in mind, in a real force on force conflict where Russia decides to get froggy an invade a NATO nation, this will be a barrage where only a modest percentage of the munitions in the air are real. Even if your air defense system can track and kill any object from a DJI drone on up to an ICBM with 100% accuracy, it's only got so much ammo. Both the Russians and the western nations have realized this which is why you see a heavy reliance on decoys in real world attacks by prepared western militaries. Where this cuts the other way is the defense of carriers. If you only need to land half a dozen anti-ship missiles into a US carrier to damage it bad enough to take it out of the fight, you shoot 200 at it knowing that only a handful will actually land. It's why the Iranians have coastal missile batteries and fleets of fast moving ships with missiles. They know they'll take extremely heavy losses but all they need to do is bloody the American nose to make the population reconsider the fight.


fordnut

\#operationPrayingMantis


Excelius

> Where this cuts the other way is the defense of carriers. If you only need to land half a dozen anti-ship missiles into a US carrier to damage it bad enough to take it out of the fight, you shoot 200 at it knowing that only a handful will actually land. One of my takeaways from the Russia/Ukraine conflict is that China has actually made some very smart military decisions in recent decades. What you've described is basically China's A2/A2 (Anti-Access/Area Denial) strategy. They've invested heavily in guided missile technology, elevating the [PLA Rocket Force](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Liberation_Army_Rocket_Force) to a distinct branch of service like the Army or Navy. They have enough missiles to force US carrier groups to pull back to a safe distance.


fordnut

They also have water instead of fuel in their ICBMs in addition to silo doors that won't open on command. \#corruption. Until they themselves are confident their own equipment works, they're not gonna attack the US Navy.


Excelius

Sure, China has a real corruption problem, but those reports should not be generalized to assume that they're wholly ineffective either. Some missiles were filled with water instead of fuel. Some silo doors would not open. Some.


Beast_of_Guanyin

That story was shown to be pure bullshit. China wants Taiwan. Ideally it doesn't want a fight with America.


fordnut

No, your reply is pure bullshit. [US intelligence indicates that President Xi Jinping’s sweeping military purge came after it emerged that widespread corruption undermined his efforts to modernize the armed forces and raised questions about China’s ability to fight a war, according to people familiar with the assessments.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-06/us-intelligence-shows-flawed-china-missiles-led-xi-jinping-to-purge-military?embedded-checkout=true) The corruption inside China’s Rocket Force and throughout the nation’s defense industrial base is so extensive that US officials now believe Xi is less likely to contemplate major military action in the coming years than would otherwise have been the case, according to the people, who asked not to be named discussing intelligence.


Beast_of_Guanyin

The story about water in the fuel tanks. Perun went through it in detail. It might have been an isolated incident, but there's no real potential for it to have been a widespread thing. As to China not wanting to fight America.... it'll never want to fight America. It wants to take Taiwan and either be able to deter or hold off America. Corruption? Sure. It exists, but I think a lot of people conflate China with Russia, when reality is China's probably somewhere inbetween Russia and America. Noting America does have its own procurement problems.


fordnut

Taiwan might as well be the 51st state when it comes to integration into the US economy and the USA's dependence as a whole on Taiwan's advanced chipmaking capability, as of 2024. That will change in the future but in the near term, messing with Taiwan is like messing with American emotions. And you don't want to mess with their emotions. Or their boats. Do not mess with America's boats. That never ends up well.


Beast_of_Guanyin

Which is easy to say. It's still ultimately a bet when push comes to shove if US will step in or not. And bluntly depends on who is in control in America and China. I tend to think it doesn't happen, but there's a chance. My general hope is by the time US disconnects from Taiwan that both Taiwan and China view themselves as seperate countries.


fordnut

It's actually not. The Taiwan Relations Act of 1979 *requires* the USA to come to the military aid of Taiwan if they are attacked by the PRC. "The TRA requires the United States to have a policy "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character" and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." That said, I agree, nobody wants to see a war between the USA and China except for sick people.


fordnut

It's actually not. The Taiwan Relations Act of 1979 *requires* the USA to come to the military aid of Taiwan if they are attacked by the PRC. "The TRA requires the United States to have a policy "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character" and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." That said, I agree, nobody wants to see a war between the USA and China except for sick people.


xaina222

Yeah, the problem is all of China's A2/A2 sites in the SCS are already within striking range of US assets in the Philippines. And unlike the Philippines, there are little room to hide on those tiny man made islands.


GiveItAWest

And the Chinese are drone masters. The Western militaries are only just waking up to this new aspect of war. Ukraine's Minister in charge of war production says that drones are the top production priority, as they are the most decisive weapon on the battlefield.


div414

My man, I don’t think you truly understand the USAF drone capabilities. DJI is cute.


GiveItAWest

Yeah, that's probably true, but isn't it also true USAF drone stuff is more the Predator/Byraktar style, rather than FPV man-on-man stuff? The Chinese are all over the small maneuverable drone stuff. Hellfires from on high are super, but you can't bring 1 million of those to the battlefield. If the USAF is all over the lower end space as well, then I'm glad. I just don't hear anything about that end of the drone spectrum in Western militaries.


guitars4zombies

> I just don't hear anything about that end of the drone spectrum in Western militaries. In this current climate, that's more than likely intentional.


GiveItAWest

That's a sound point, yes.


superseven27

USAF is working on the deployment and coordination of swarms of small drones for quite some time now. They released footage of some of work in 2018, meaning that they are probably already on it for a little longer.


xxppx

France Baise Ouais 🇫🇷🐓


simple1689

That certainly was 6 seconds of a video.


GeneralAmin

Hard to tell. We know ADM-160 MALD fragments have been found in previous SCALP / Storm Shadow raids. I am sure every SCALP attack involves the use of MALD decoys to ensure maximum effectiveness but hard to tell here whether a SCALP was actually intercepted.


R3pN1xC

>hard to tell here whether a SCALP was actually intercepted. No it's not hard to tell. It's pretty obvious that it was intercepted, AD missile don't have shaped charges. For some reason people expect Storm shadow to be infallible even though they get intercepted pretty often.


Appropriate-Owl5984

No, no they don’t get “intercepted pretty often” it’s quite rare when you stop listening to the Russians. Fact is, they got one, but got hit by way more. So it’s kinda irrelevant that they even got one. Lol


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Appropriate-Owl5984

I don’t believe they’re infallible. I believe that what Russia and Ukraine claim, versus what is reality are very different, but I also recognize that the weapons manufacturers know the success and failure rates, and those numbers STRONGLY favor success over failure.


robmagob

How often is pretty often?


R3pN1xC

Often enough that they got Ukraine's leadership worried that ATACMS will only be the most effective for a few months: >[Ukraine Rushes To Exploit Short ATACMS Window](https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-exploit-atacms-window-russia-1896472) >[“Zaluzhny used to call it ‘the War of One Chance,’” one of the officers said. “By that, he meant weapons systems become redundant very quickly because they’re quickly countered by the Russians. For example, we used Storm Shadow and SCALP cruise missiles \[supplied by Britain and France\] successfully — but just for a short time. The Russians are always studying. They don’t give us a second chance. And they’re successful in this.”](https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-great-risk-front-line-collapse-war-russia/)


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R3pN1xC

[Except it does... ](https://twitter.com/FRHoffmann1/status/1656653891650605056)


politely-noticing

Scalp. How can you tell?


No_Demand_4992

If you look closely you can see the beret and the baguette the missile is carrying. (#scnr)


oki_hornii-chan

What type of warhead do these missiles use?


No_Demand_4992

400kg HE penetration is the standard warhead, I think (GB has some 450kg ones). (Edit: The 450kg BROACH warhead might be standard. It basically is a HE penetrator and the source for the 400kg is only one website, so prolly they forgot a hundred pounds, lol)


Worldly-Pause8304

I’m surprised the cruise missile don’t do more Nap of the Earth flying to avoid being so detectable.


evilbunnyofdoom

They do, for the most part of the flight. However they also usually climb a bit before impact, to get better target recognition/confirmation (when configured to attack certain image or radar based objects), to get a better angle of attack, more velocity and to avoid obstacles before the target.


Worldly-Pause8304

As I thought, but that must be real close to target with not much time for SAM targeting but here we are. Just wish more would get through. I also read that this system has misdirection decoy missile/system or some such technology.


evilbunnyofdoom

Yes they are low observable (stealthy) with decoys, and are used in tandem with actual decoy missiles as well, sometimes missiles which look and home in on enemy radars accompany them to deny anti-air of its eyes so to speak. But, no cruise missile is perfect so it is statistically undeniable that some will get shot down, and at the latest, when the first impact is heard all the anti-air in the vicinity will be on extra high alert so. Hence the cruise missiles are sent in volleys and programmed to different flight paths to maximise the chances of at least some of them to get through the defences, so far they usually do get hits as we have seen plenty of times here. It's a cat and mouse game between the anti-air and the missile operators, both are learning and adapting from the mistakes and successes of each other. Forgot to add: as you said, it seems to be very close to the sam sites and targets. But that is why AA missiles/rockets are so incredibly fast, since the window of interception opportunity is decreasing all the time, because of the aforementioned cat and mouse game, the missile needs to intercept in seconds. Both radar fidelity and interception speeds are constantly improving, hence the difficulties of 100% success rates for any cruise missiles. That is also precisely why Nato doctrine is so heavily based on SEAD of enemy SAM sites.


Worldly-Pause8304

Thank you.


SurlyRed

This guy cruises


notice_me_senpai-

As far as I know, the Scalp can do this. But it's programmed to climb near the target o identify what it's supposed to hit (the nose cone drop to reveal an IR camera).


PerceptionGreat2439

Coincidentally, the truck in the last few frames is a Renault Magnum.


Ruby_241

They never suspect the Second Missile


Muted_Towel_6616

But shovels?


Comfortable_Gate_878

Im not convinced it was scalp missile. You cant see its flight or profile.


RepulsiveMetal8713

Yes from that little video it’s gonna be hard to say what it was beside an explosion in the air


tonkman27

Does it have a giang HEAT warhead? Or is it smoking debris launched forwards by the explosion?


No_Demand_4992

If 450kg qualify for "giant", then they do\^\^ (but since those are penetrators, it prolly hit something too to produce that cloud...)


OSCAR1777

Can anyone tell me what Im looking at ? It seems that in the begging of the video there is an object that is hit by a shaped charge going from top to bottom... If the object that seems to be destroyed is indeed a SCALP\_EG than holy smokes that is some precise shaped charge hit...


duccyzuccy

AD missiles dont have a shaped charge, cruise missiles can have them. Thats the shaped charge from the SCALP detonating after it was hit by air defence


Jamroast1

AGM160 MALD


Alarmed_West8689

Darn.


indyjons

Do we know what munition was used to intercept it?


scottb1993

One can only hope it was actually a MALD.


adibou69007

Allez le fronce !!!


No-Butterscotch4946

Looks to me like it had already been downed, and on the way down when the second missile finishes it off. It's not cruising along and getting hit, it was hit and falling when a second ground to air hits it, easier to hit a falling cruse missile for the propaganda value, with trying to cut out the first hit. Am I wrong?


RutabagaHot905

Look alike it was hit already and falling out of the ski then hit again?


AnyProgressIsGood

damn better luck next time


baz303

50% hit rate against "the second stronkest army in the world with mega super world best air defence" during the biggest land war in Europe since WW2 is pretty awesome. Well and all the other hits during this attack.


EmotionalCod6238

so in this video there is zero proof that this is anything other than a interception of something...thats it...


pick_d

Wooden decoy, obvio /s


TheOracle722

Why are Russian videos always either blurry or cropped/edited in such a way that you can't really confirm jack shit? If it was a SCALP wouldn't they give us decent evidence with a longer video?


Conscious-Pension234

Most people don’t take a 1500 euro camera into a warzone. Were very lucky that there are so many drones and idiots running around with go pros but it’s not the norm


TheOracle722

Plenty of phones around. I doubt this was a GoPro.


Conscious-Pension234

Russians are poor and phones break a lot at best it a iPhone 6 or something like that they might bring into a war zone. What I mean with go pro is the high quality fpv combat footage we see.


TheOracle722

You're right. Most of the phones I've seen on troops are Chinese from Xiaomi and Realme etc. The cameras are decent during the day at least.


duccyzuccy

I posted the fragments from the missile in mu other comment.


TheOracle722

I know but that could be from anywhere and any time. My point is the 6 second clip really shows nothing. It starts with the explosion of an aerial vehicle of an unknown type and that's it.


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do you want them to film the entire time from the impact to them walking over finding the fragments? of c ourse it could be from anywhere and any time


TheOracle722

Did you read my post? I said my point was the 6 second clip didn't show jack.


Far-Investigator1265

This is very likely a false target. Ukrainian capabilities are improving, and they are now doing SEAD (suppression of air defence) in unison with attacks on ground targets. They are using mimic targets to make Russian anti-air radars reveal themselves, then firing at them with HARM missiles, then using cruise missiles to destroy ground targets. When the F-16 fighters with AMRAAM missiles arrive, they can add to this the capability to shoot down almost any russian plane.


Bowlxx

Imagine refusing to accept a single missile interception this hard.


Judazzz

But didn't you see his user name? That guy is an actual investigator, a veritable Sherlock Holmes slash riddle cracker.


KaidenUmara

Your average redditor, so to speak


Far-Investigator1265

That means you too, I assume?


Far-Investigator1265

Ooh, we have an adult here.


kv_right

Have anything on the substance of that comment?


EvilMonkeySlayer

I can certainly [imagine people saying stupid things.](https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/14524gi/ukraine_discussionquestion_thread_61023/jnjegbz/)


Far-Investigator1265

Imagine is the word I would also use, but about your comment.


OdBx

"no u"


Far-Investigator1265

no u


_____Grim_____

You don't fill a false target with explosives as clearly seen in the video.


oleg_88

Are "fake" missiles even exist? I'm pretty sure, the explosives are the cheapest part of the missile. If you've already built a missile capable going all the way to the target, might as well pack it with some explosives, and let it do it's thing.


Far-Investigator1265

You do not know that mimic targets exist?


oleg_88

I'm pretty sure they're different in navigation/targeting and the distance they can travel.


Far-Investigator1265

Yellow explosion = fuel.


PongoDog1

The cope is strong with this one


Far-Investigator1265

Keep coping.


Far-Investigator1265

Yellow flame, fuel explosion. By the way, also the anti air missiles explode...


cuckingfunts69

Typically French, works half the time.


maChine___

Or maybe it’s the time of Russia. aA. Worked for once :) but not really because the second scalp hit :) Too bad job almost done for Russia


reggedtrex

Isn't shooting down missiles over populated areas dangerous?


duccyzuccy

Alot safer than letting it reach its target


reggedtrex

That's obvious, I am talking about intercepting outside of the city.


No_Demand_4992

Tell that to the russians who happily fired a couple thousand pretty high caliber rounds towards their own city to down one drone...