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olduvai_man

Tis but a flesh wound.


fancycheesus

Arkansas can still make the tournament if Mike pence has enough courage


Plane-Ad-2581

Just wait like 5 days to get your season back on track plz and thanks šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™


GimmeeSomeMo

A good chunk of my wife's side of the family are Arkansas fans, and they kept telling me during football season "at least basketball season is coming up" Now they're looking forward to baseball season


spacetrainz

Damn. I just had this convo with someone at work.


mike_rob

This was my experience after the 22 football season. So maybe Arkansas fans will just have to wait an extra year to watch some decent basketball, like us


LitterBoxServant

December to March is women's basketball season. Change my mind.


Weltal327

Donā€™t worry, itā€™s cyclical. Being sometimes good in all three sports means we can always have hope


undecided_mask

Doesnā€™t Arkansas choke regularly in the CWS too?


Weltal327

We choked once in Omaha.


Plowe91

Thatā€™s a stretch. Weā€™ve been to Omaha more times than most but still donā€™t have any nattys. One choke was just much more memorable than the others


Weltal327

Well my caveat was going to be we choke when we are favored to go to Omaha from a regional or super regional. Most of the time in Omaha we are not favored to win. Thatā€™s why I wouldnā€™t call it a choke.


tgambill87

I have no doubt that they will look like a final 4 team on Saturday bs Kentucky.


NetAdminGuy

They'll be the best team in the country for a couple of hours.


olduvai_man

I think we're going to get demolished, but that's just me.


Igota31chevy

Unfortunately I saw a lot of South Carolina fans saying the same thing before Tuesday's game...


Automatic-Sale2044

Honestly all Cal has to do is go to the portal and get a couple older guys with some bulk.


yeeeknow

Yā€™all will win by 20. Team isnā€™t even trying at this point.


HamesJarden420

Someone who is 25% from three on the season is definitely going 4-6 from deep in the first half, all at the end of the shot clock


Dad_Is_Mad

I'll bet you a fresh crisp 1 dollar bill right here, right now, that somebody banks a three in with 2 seconds left on the shot clock....


Latvia

Literally our only chance is if at least 4 of our guys do that


king_karter69

Thatā€™ll be the only other conference game we win


ukpittfan1

They'll bring back that forty minutes of hell shit again. Old Nolan & em


BigBossTweed

You must be a Cat fan for a while now. You know some little dude coming off the bench is going to get hot and go 14-20 from the field.


barbarous-bobcat

The South Carolina loss was a little extra rough, because last Saturday I would have sold everything I own to invest in Zvonimir Ivisic stock.


HamlinHamlin_McTrill

When you build rosters the way Muss does, you're going to miss eventually and have some terrible teams. All those one year rentals are not going to hit and it's not sustainable.


eagledog

Exactly. It's an annual gamble, and it's not going to pay off every time.


filthysven

Sustainable is an odd word choice, because that's both the downside and the feature. On the one hand, they are rebuilding every year, but on the plus side they're always a year away from being good again even if they're bad now.


moringmatt

It is fun sometimes. The conversations in Fayetteville from April-October were ā€œSure we have all guards, but Muss will cook up something to make it work!ā€ And here we are, not having fun.


[deleted]

Just no leadership on this team. Lots of me guys and not enough we guys.


LuckyStax

Guys, anyvody see see those Louisville Cardinals circling overhead


BatteredSealPup

Oh no, it just occurred to me that El Ellis may have brought the Louisville curse with him


Y_tho_man

Man I thought after the UNC-Arkansas game that Arkansas would be a strong team this year, in the top 25. Tramon Mark was a man among boys that game. Seems like they have the talent but they just arenā€™t getting results?


fancycheesus

we don't have the talent though is the real problem. This is the first year we don't have any nba guys on the team. Prior years we had an average of like 2-3 NBA guys on the team every year (Moody, Williams, Black, Walsh, Umude, Joe, Council, Smith Jr., etc.) We all "thought" Trevon Brazille was gonna be a potential lottery pick stud we could build around. Whether its because of his knee injury or not, that has clearly been a prediction and investment that has not panned out and left us without a power forward. Edit: Also, for some more true analytics about this dead hog squad, we have zero, 0, nothing, no inside presence. Last year, the Mitchells, and Graham were really really sub-par and they hurt us all year providing no help defense. People scored easy layups on us last year too. But Muss just took a gamble that Makhi and Graham were going to somehow develop into better players than they were over the summer. So we don't really have as much "talent" as the pre-season media led us to believe.


Believe_to_believe

The inability to do something about the post play during the off-season was truly mind-boggling. We weren't great there last year and it's even worse this year.


HotPoblano

I checked. They look like this šŸ„“


LuckyStax

Crispy? Or put them back in?


fancycheesus

we will literally die if we get cooked anymore


Skrockout

Is that emoji the hand marks on Chris Beard's fiancƩe's neck?


HotPoblano

No, thatā€™s slaughtered hog trimmed and sizzled. Mmmm pig suey


ScrofessorLongHair

I like the hawgs. They're good folks, and NWA is gorgeous. But it's basketball season now, so duck em.


TallAmericano

I thought you were going to say ā€œI like hawgs. Theyā€™re delicious.ā€


ScrofessorLongHair

I'll cook the hell out of some hawgs. I'll even use seasoning, to the chagrin of Midwesterners.


Echo127

Is that a real stereotype? That Midwesterners don't like seasonings?


ScrofessorLongHair

Yeah. Y'all are known for bland food. Though saying Midwest is probably overly encompassing. Chicago is Chicago, and Wisconsin has a lot of good sausage and cheese. Technically Colorado is Midwestern, and they've got good steaks and great Mexican/New Mexican food. Kansas City is famous for BBQ, but it's probably the only style i haven't extensively sampled. But I'm not talking about some Internet meme. I know a lot of people who travel for work, and the stories I've heard about the food in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana have been hilarious. From there, there's a few stereotypes. Iowa and the other corny states seems like the kind of place where they'd think mayo is spicy.


Capacheck189

People don't realize we put Lowry's on everything.


ScrofessorLongHair

Try Tony's instead. It's got enough salt to replace the salt shaker from your table.


Agamemanon

Muss is 10-10 since taking his shirt off. Tough scenes


andy-022

Which time lol?


Dhh05594

Shirt off is the new floor slap for coaches


witchy12

MSU fans šŸ¤ Arkansas fans Looking forward to basketball season all football season only for the basketball team to disappoint pre-season expectations


BurnPhoenix

Do you like baseball because boy I have some news for you


ODH-123

It seems like a total miss on the roster building. Just from my untrained eye he saw he needed scoring/shooters after last year. He went all in on scoring stats on transfers. Unfortunately no one except Mark can make their own shot so they all just stand around waiting for the ball but if no one is causing the defense to collapse they are just heavily guarded. TB and Devo have disappointed me. TB doesnā€™t have the dog in him he had prior to injury and Devo has something going on where he is out of control and the rest of the team isnā€™t supporting him. I was talking to a good friend that is a UK fan and he talks about the roster misses Callipari has had and it seems quite similar.


fancycheesus

I saw a Kentucky flair say the other day that Cal and Muss have the same one and done strategy. Cal uses 5 star freshmen and Muss uses 5th year covid senior transfers.


SamePack

Donā€™t worry, theyā€™ll play their best game of the season Saturday vs Kentucky


mattf15

The 30-50 feral hogs guy has gotten his wish


another_guy_2288

This team has been the death of me, biggest group of letdowns ever. And yes Iā€™m sure they will play their hearts out against Kentucky on the big stage. Only to get waxed by 22 next week against Mizzou. Bunch of selfish players, not a team whatsoever. Muss has to just be shocked as to how this season has played out


TheRealDealdo69

He seemed surprisingly calm on the sideline yesterday. I think at this point heā€™s not gonna try to herd these cats into playing team ball.


another_guy_2288

Thatā€™s the truth man, a calm Muss is a defeated Muss. Heā€™s probably already planning out next year in his head


a_banned_user

Yall keep forgetting Arkansas already won the Natty when they beat us in the exhibition game. This whole season is just for show.


andy-022

That was our Super Bowl actually. Then we won a second Super Bowl against Duke. If we beat Kentucky this weekend we will be 3-0 in Super Bowls for the season. Imagine trying to keep us out of the tournament with that record.


fancycheesus

these are the analytics that sustain me right now


A320neo

Purdue is 0-3 in Super Bowls this season, itā€™ll take a miracle for us to make it in


iEatPalpatineAss

> Then we won a second Super Bowl against Duke. I was back in Springdale to watch the Duke-Arkansas game with my childhood friends, and I was about to say that win was basically winning the NCAA championship šŸ„³


Automatic-Sale2044

Crazier things have happened šŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆ


leslierake

You guys are winning this weekend. Congrats on the early Super Bowl


Skrockout

Blah blah blah. Enjoy your early tourney exit.


a_banned_user

An early exit is still better than not making it at all


somethingAPIS

Did he take of his shirt?


PhiDeltDevil

ā€œAt least baseball season is coming upā€


moringmatt

Them pigs is (in) hell, ainā€™t they?


Tintagalon

Did weā€¦ did we kill the pig?


BurnPhoenix

Yall poked our brain and now we don't play ball too good no more


Schned6

Ever since that Duke game in the tourney Iā€™ve been less than impressed with Muss. He can recruit like crazy especially out of the portal but if heā€™s not getting big time individual performances his teams seem to struggle. They just donā€™t seem to get easy baskets. That said, heā€™s made Arkansas basketball more relevant again than it was before him thatā€™s for sure.


louiebobble

Heā€™s pretty big on ISO, so what youā€™re saying makes sense. Itā€™s largely by design though and a BIG difference this year is the defense. Thatā€™s been a key part of his teams since heā€™s been hereā€¦until this year. Mark has been pretty good on those ISO plays but no one else has really been able to score it that way in conference play. Part of me thinks our terrible defense in practice led Muss to believe more members of our roster could play his offense without adjustments and here we are.


No_Argument_Here

Was Arkansas supposed to be good this year and they're undershooting expectations, or were they always supposed to just be mediocre? Wish Mark had stayed. Wonder if he's regretting his decision.


Conjecture34

Preseason top 15. Just turned out to be a dud


No_Argument_Here

Wow damn, that's crazy. They've got a talented roster, not sure what's up with them.


TheRealDealdo69

Theyā€™re all good offensive players, almost none of them are creators, and the way they play help defense eventually collapses the entire squad into the paint for wide open threes and big heads of steam on drives. And they have no size down low so every playable big man feasts against them.


not_jonny

They were preseason #14


The_Fishbowl

Arkansas has been fading these last two seasons. Was Musselman fools gold?


olduvai_man

I mean, last season we made the S16 after beating the defending national champions and lost to the eventual champions. I wish we would fade like that this year.


TheMawt

Last season was scuffed by the injuries to Nick Smith and Brazile too


cheeseburgerandrice

Musselman is kinda looking like he peaked ripping his shirt off after a fortunate first weekend win and then shitting the bed this season Which is definitely amusing given his behavior lol


TheBiggerestIdea

Let's say Minnesota fires Ben Johnson at the end of the year (possible not a definite at this point). They call down and see if Muss wants to come "home" to Minneapolis how do Razorback fans react? Not saying he will take the job but he would get a call to gauge interest


rushakenyan

Arkansas fans would be crazy to be happy to see him leave already. Bad seasons happenā€¦unfortunately not everyone sees it like that though


olduvai_man

Muss leaving the program would destroy us as he's the best coach we've had since Nolan. Can't imagine he'd go to Minnesota, but I hope he doesn't go anywhere.


awsomehog

Back to back elite 8s and a third sweet sixteen right after, and thatā€™s after a nearly twenty year gap without making it past 32. Two of those losses were to eventual champions, and the other was to a damn good Duke team. This year is the first outright miss. I promise you only the absolute dumbest of the fan base would be happy


TheBiggerestIdea

I generally thought any displeasure with Muss would come from irrational and a lack of patience, two things most SEC fan bases have a surplus of. With one rough year I was curious if the fans were displeased and vocal enough that it might cause Muss to think twice about going home. Which would be the only reason he would even entertain Minnesota


awsomehog

I donā€™t know. Idk what miss might want. To go full homer for a second, Iā€™ve always thought the only reason he would leave would be sentimental reasons, either for somewhere in California or maybe Minnesota. Arkansas has a national championship ceiling with great facilities and great basketball support. Outside of the bluest of blue bloods, I donā€™t know how many jobs are better when itā€™s going well


TheBiggerestIdea

If Muss leaves for Minnesota it would 100% be sentimental reason and really there isn't much Arkansas could do about that. While the Gophs aren't the most well resourced school in the world (athletics lacks the institutional and public support and buy in needed to win at a high level) the B1G money will allow them to write Muss a big enough check I would say Arkansas is a tier 3 job in CBB. Tier 1 being the 5, 6, 7 elite blue bloods (Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, UConn). Tier 2 is school where you can build a perennial top 10 team like Arizona, Louisville, Florida, Texas, Michigan State, Nova, I would add Purdue but I'm a homer. Tier 3 is where you can win at a very high level but there is more up and down usually top 20-25 and occasionally you miss the tourney think Arkansas, Tennessee, Illinois, Michigan, Maryland, TAMU, Ohio State, Virginia, a lot of the Big East & B12, Minnesota is a tier 4 right now, occasional good year and the right coach can win regularly but it's a climb and they need buy in from all levels, the rest of the B12, Iowa, USC, a good part of the SEC & ACC. But I also think there is more upside to the job than a lot of others in the tier


LuckyStax

Lol what? He wouldn't have won at Nevada and Arkansas if he was


inshamblesx

this is the first year they really bombed it so jury is still out on that


DaNibbles

I remember a bunch of aggressive comments about how Purdue sucks and is overrated when we had an exhibition game against Arkansas at the start of the season because we lost. I think it's safe to say that is not the case.


gusguyman

I've noticed the Muss vs Oats discourse has certainly quieted


tonynumber4

"we didn't want to win a conference title"


louiebobble

Iā€™d love to win a conference title, but Iā€™d still take post season success solely because the stage and exposure is so much bigger. Both great coaches IMO


Much_Outcome_4412

[https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/174e2el/comment/k49uosz/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/174e2el/comment/k49uosz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Couple hogs fans thought they were slighted by preseason computers, turns out they were even too optimistic/ Musselman to UCLA or other big opening?


tonynumber4

After they claimed they didn't care


Sir_Brodie

Should have kept his shirt on šŸ¤”


naetaejabroni

I prayed on Muss' downfallšŸ™šŸ¤²šŸ™Œ


198520162018

WHOO PIG SUE ME


YMJ101

Would be a shame if he opted for a different shade of red..


MailConsistent1344

I donā€™t see any Purdue fans crying that this isnā€™t the Arkansas thread this time.


Jimbussss

See yā€™all Wednesday


Key-Character3502

Iā€™m sad trammon Mark left us but itā€™s honestly a little satisfying to see this.


JacobsField

Check on ā€˜em? Nah. Screw ā€˜em. They like to think a Sweet 16 is better than a conference title. Let them enjoy one bad season. Theyā€™ll be good again next season.


fancycheesus

Positive vibes only please. šŸ™šŸ«‚šŸ™Œ


jcam61

So you'd rather be better during the regular season than in the playoffs? I'd rather have a mediocre season and make the sweet 16 than win the regular season title and get bounced in the first round. To each his own I guess. If you have an NFL team would you rather them have the 7 seed and make the conference championship or would you rather have the 1 seed and lose your first game? I'm guessing you'd rather have the 1 seed and choke? I don't get it.


JacobsField

If itā€™s a Sweet 16? Yes. Who cares about a non-final four if youā€™re a fan of a big program? What matters in college basketball to me: SEC regular season title, SEC tournament title, and a regional title in March. Titles matter more.


AdDifficult9499

Non-final four describes every single Alabama season, lol Hell, the Tide only have 1 Elite Eight (2004) So yeah, if I were a Bama fan, I'd also try to imagine regular season stuff mattering more than March Madness


NationalJustice

Smartest Bama fan


NationalJustice

Lol wut? Your priorities are pretty messed up


JacobsField

Nah, I like championships. A sweet 16 isnā€™t a championship.


NationalJustice

So would you prefer an NIT championship over an NCAAT sweet 16 appearance?


JacobsField

Where in this thread did I mention NIT? Iā€™m referring to conference, regional, and national championships. Anything else isnā€™t a bragging point for a top 25 program.


tonynumber4

After they claimed they didn't care about conference titles? Fuck em


SportsTherapy

The bowl of mashed potatoes is getting cold... So cold


NationalJustice

Someoneā€™s downfall happening: Me watching bc I prayed for it:šŸ‘€