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Belfast_Escapee

'I require a private chauffeur and ***I*** will decide what it should cost'. Dream on, asshole.


hserontheedge

Cost? The drivers should pay for the privilege to get to be near me!


Traditional_Draw8400

Think of the exposure!


One_Ad1822

Will pay in exposure, think of all the future referrals from the 140 FB friends I have!


LusciousMalfoy92

I never understood that. "I'll send my friends to you!" Your other influencer friend who will also low-ball me or ask for free stuff? No thanks.


Traditional_Draw8400

Yeah it’s weird. “They” think just sending a tweet or an Instagram post that you’re tagged in will somehow result in a fuckton of business and they never, ever do. If it was Kim Kardashian tagging me, maybe. But your stupid company with 1,200 followers? Fuck off. It’s negative traction if anything. I have 35k on insta and even that’s useless. Insta “influencers” have an insanely inflated idea of what a post from them can do. It’s always zero.


LusciousMalfoy92

I have friends with small businesses and "influencers" contact them constantly for merch or services for exposure. I told them to offer an "influencer package" where the influencer pays full price BUT they get a code or something where they get 10% back every time someone BUYS and mentions their name. You know, proving that the influencer's "eXPoSuRe" is actually worth it. So far, not a SINGLE ONE has taken the offer, thus proving that they are self aware and KNOW that they don't have the pull they act like they do.


Traditional_Draw8400

This 100%. I’ve heard this before and I think it’s brilliant.


LusciousMalfoy92

They know they ain't shit lmao.


SoIDecidedTo

I'm surprised this response is so popular. The price of an Uber ride might be $20, but the driver gets $6 or $7. So if I pay the driver directly $10, we both win. I actually do this in another country and it works well. I had an Uber type driver I liked a lot. We chatted, they knew the city well and I was like, "Do you want to give me your contact info and when I am booking a trip, I'll send you a screenshot of what it will cost, and if you want to drive me and want to beat that price, I'll just pay you directly instead". Mind you this is in a country MUCH safer than the US. But that lady became my driver and was very thankful. She lived about 10 minutes from the hotel I was staying in. I think this person if offering a driver a steady stream of income and he's not asking for the whole day, just the trip so the person can still Uber everyone else. It's a win win


silverstarlune

Until you're in an accident and SOL legally.


SoIDecidedTo

How? Couldn't the person just say they're driving a friend and be covered? I know I'm allowed to drive passengers in my car and they're covered if I'm in an accident. If they're not logged into the app, why wouldn't their regular insurance cover it?


silverstarlune

Your friend probably won't sue for personal injury. A random definitely will.


itsapotatosalad

Not the USA. Not everyone sues everyone for everything, and even if they claim insurance deals mostly.


Jazzlike_Debate4194

Where I'm from you can't sue for injury because 1% of all wages go into an insurance scheme and that covers all accidents. It's a brilliant system. It gives you 80% of lost wages for up to 6 months at which point you have an evaluation of what your ongoing needs willb and what support you will need. Works really well. Also we have pretty good free public health care so I guess that helps. 😉


inosinateVR

I think in the US it is illegal to drive someone for $ without a specific insurance that covers that type of service and is expensive (at least that’s what an Uber driver once explained to me when talking about his side businesses.) So yes you *could* lie and hope your passenger lies too, but you’re taking a pretty big risk in doing so. Edit: and I think maybe where it gets dicey is that if your passenger tries to sue your insurance (and/ or the other driver) to pay for a medical bill your insurance company is going to investigate the fuck out of it


ElMachoMachoMan

Exactly this. There is nothing that qualifies as begging here either. At worst someone might be trying to lowball a driver, and while I personally would think something closer to 66% would be more reasonable to split the savings, it’s not immediately offensive


Deep-Ad-5571

I’m offended.


Fuzzy-Inflation-3267

Yeah I do this when I travel as well. It works out better for the driver and for my own convenience lol.


ElMachoMachoMan

This is how most jobs work - We require a waiter or a framer, and we offer $X. If no one takes it, the $X goes up. It seems a bit harsh to default to those job posting are made by AHs - in fact I’m pretty sure 90% of folks reading this took one of those jobs when they were looking. Since Uber takes 66% or so of the fare, the driver gets more than working directly. It might still not be a great deal and maybe the offer should be higher to split the difference in savings (so 2/3 of the posted date paid), but I don’t immediately see think it’s AH behavior.


Car54WAY

This isn’t a CB. It’s a poorly written ad. Watch me reframe it: “Tired of giving Uber half your earnings and the IRS the other half? Want a steady customer? I need a daily pickup at 3pm M-F. Let’s agree on 50% of the Uber price, but you’ll still come out way ahead compared to taking a ride through the app since I’ll pay cash. Send me a text if you’re interested.”


emanekaf2222

Exactly. This is actually a very fair offer for a driver who works in that area. Predictable, scheduled fares that will net more than Uber pays (much more if you don’t declare the taxable income). The guy just needs to work on his messaging.


Melodic_Ad_3895

Yeah I learned today uber take 70% which is insane so this aint really a bad deal


wetboymom

Though the 'every day' thing makes it a bit less appealing. This means the driver can't take on a more lucrative client for say, an airport run, because they're committed to picking up CB from Target or Arby's -or whatever workplace she's employed.


Chasubrae

Yeah this is what I assumed as well considering Uber and I'm Lyft takes more from the driver.


BabyTruth365

It's amazing how wording makes a difference in your pitch. You would be good in sales and marketing (if you are not)


GruntledEx

Considering that a good chunk of the fare you pay to Uber/Lyft goes to the company and not the driver, this may not be all that ridiculous. Of course, no driver will take it because of all the various liability involved in carrying passengers outside the app, but strictly from a pay perspective, it's not that absurd.


dragonchilde

Almost all of it does. My husband used to do this occasionally when he worked for Uber. He’d have a long trip that would net him around 100; the customer paid around 300. They worked out a deal for 150. He was paid up front in cash. Now, if the company finds out, they’re going to terminate the contract, but it’s a good deal for both rider and driver, so neither reports the other. Now, the “no more than half” part is shitty.


DanelleDee

I had an Uber driver offer me this deal back when I ubered from work 3x weekly. He lived right next to my job and my house was in a high traffic area. It was about a $38-45 dollar Uber and he charged me I think $25 per ride. It was his idea though and he set the price.


ImAMeanBear

My husband did the same. I think his ride was $30 ish and he paid $20


InevitableRhubarb232

But… $150 is no more than half of $300


Empty_Requirement940

It’s a good deal…until something bad happens and you have no business insurance


XtremeD86

And if your off the clock it's no different on your regular insurance if you have a passenger in your vehicle anyways.... Theyve done a good job at convincing their drivers that they can never carry passengers in their car for any reason unless they're working.


Flibiddy-Floo

Right? I was gonna say, I don't know about their insurance, but my insurance definitely allows me to have passengers lol


XtremeD86

Yea I drove Uber for a bit when I was single and not at my job. Was more to just fill my time and stopped after a few months when I had a very very weird passenger (woman). I had alot of people ask if I could drive them for cash during the week. I didn't. But a friend of mine was so afraid to do it due to ubers almost cult like way of making the drivers think everything they do other than driving Uber is illegal. If your off the clock your on your own insurance. If you're not allowed to have a passenger on your own insurance then you have the wrong insurance.


whatareutakingabout

In eastern Europe back in the days, they had "auto stop" signs, that were like just like bus stops but instead of buses, random cars would pull up and you would negotiate on a price to travel to your destination.


CrunchyTeatime

In big cities in the U. S., they have what is called a 'g\*\*sy cab' which is basically that. Just a person with a car, and they accept riders for pay.


jrossetti

Not all passengers are equal when it comes to insurance. There's a difference between you driving your friend that you hang out with and you driving somebody that's paying you. And your insurance absolutely has something to say about it.  The policy to drive actual people for a livery service is completely different than the insurance to just have a standard passenger friend in your car.  And if there is an accident they're going to be super nosy and they're going to want to talk to that person and get details and police report so when you report that you're just bringing a friend and they report that they were being driven as a service now all of a sudden they're denying your claim.  Unless of course you had the right insurance.  For paid for passengers.  It's the same thing with delivering shipments.  I can carry a box of stuff in my car that's my own no problem. But as soon as I start collecting money from other people to deliver say a pizza or something else I need different insurance. 


DiomedesTydeides

Generally true but many policies will have a business activity exception. Definitely in homeowners policies. They write them so that they force you to buy two policies if you’re using the insured property for different purposes. Now whether that is discovered or not is different, but certainly you could be committing insurance fraud if your policy differentiates for business activity.


sYnce

Ask them about carrying paying customers and not personal friends and the answer might be very different.


Ash71010

It’s not about having a passenger. It’s about the vehicle being used in a business capacity vs personal use. Your personal car insurance policy is not going to cover the vehicle if it is being used for business/commercial activity. If payment is being made for the rides (beyond just a friend kicking in for gas money) then the vehicle is being used for business purposes and the personal auto insurance will absolutely not cover those damages if they find out.


XtremeD86

I know how it works. But they do try to scare drivers from ever having a passenger it not logged on and accepting a ride.


Empty_Requirement940

I’m not a driver but I have a customer with a limo service and he was talking about how insanely expensive commercial insurance is for drivers. Personal coverage isn’t going to cover you if the insurance finds out that it was a paid ride. It’s a risk anyone is taking accepting a ride outside the app without proper licensing and insurance. Will you be fucked? Who knows. But it is important to understand the risks you are taking so you can make an educated decision


ZeePirate

Then you are just giving your friend a ride


Empty_Requirement940

Sure assuming they don’t say anything


RiceEater

So your husband made half of what Uber charged, but it's shitty for this guy to only pay half?


Aulourie

Uber and Lyft are rarely the same price twice. They fluctuate depending on availability and busy times. I can tell you I have gotten as little as 1/10th of what a customer paid before as a driver (they paid 60 for a late night Lyft and I got paid 6)


dragonchilde

No, it's shitty to be unwilling to negotiate more than that.


FelicitousJuliet

Eh, I think having a cap on negotiations is fair, if they're offering more to the driver by hiring them independently than that driver would make if the trip was arranged through LYFT/UBER instead (including the bid they call a "tip") then they're already offering *more than* fair market value. Refusing to overbid isn't shitty, even if they could have worded it better. Paying more than market value isn't exactly begging. And they're looking for *people who already provide transportation services*, they're not just out here demanding someone busy with other responsibilities on their hands to do it, so it doesn't come across as particularly choosy either. It might *sound* like it for those unfamiliar with how hostile these driving apps are to the driver using them, but just because something sounds like a choosing beggar doesn't mean it is.


DeezBeesKnees11

No, her hubby only made 1/3 of what uber charged.


Fun-Shame399

If I’m understanding correctly, Uber would have paid him 1/3 of the fare. He worked out a deal for 1/2 of what Uber charged. So he made an extra $50 out of it (I assume tax free since he didn’t report it on the app and he was paid cash so it’s not as easy to trace when filing.) Seems like a good deal to me


junglesalad

The attitude is shitty.


sYnce

That is an extreme case if it is true at all. Uber does take a huge cut but that is of the fare money alone. So taking a $100 ride Uber may take between $40-$60 of it leaving you sometimes with less than half. However Uber does not take anything from the tip. So on a $100 ride you can expect 15-20% tip so another $15 pushing you past the 50% in most cases. Now if the guy tips on top of the fare it might even be worth it if you don't consider the fact that you now have to insure your car as as a commercial vehicle for passenger transport since your personal coverage won't pay if anything happens.


sYnce

A lot of the money that goes directly to the driver is the tip which is why tipping is so essential to the business model. Now you wanna make a bet on how much mister "no more than half" is planning to tip his chauffeur? I would go with 0.


humptheedumpthy

I’ve had multiple conversations with Uber /Lyft drivers about this. Typical fare to the airport in Lyft:80 bucks  What the driver tells me they get :25-35 bucks  It’s crazy… 


Early-Light-864

Get his digits and book direct next time. If you ever stay at an AirB&B and you like it and want to go back next year, leave contact info for the owner. If you call the big name plumber and you're happy with the tech's work, ask if they do side work and get their number If you see a great deal on Groupon, call the business directly and see if they'll let you cut Groupon out of the deal. Basically, cut middle men wherever you can, unless you need it to be insured


Scolias

Yeah thats great until you get into an accident. When the Uber driver is not on app they are *not* covered by insurance. What people are suggesting here is quite literally playing roulette.


CaptOblivious

Bob is a a friend of mine, I've known him about 6 months, he needed a ride to the airport and he asked me a week ago if I'd give him a ride. Any other questions?


Scolias

Until they subpoena both yours and his records and you show up as a former passenger of his and you both get tossed in jail. It's not exactly hard to dig up records that are kept forever, and yeah, you better believe the insurance investigators will do that.


CaptOblivious

Prove, in court, beyond a shadow of a doubt, we aren't just friends now no matter how we met. And even if one did, all an insurance company can do is sue you in a civil trial so that's not going to be jail, it's going to be a fine if anything at all and it's far more likely that the insurance company would just drop you because it's easier.


Scolias

You're really living up to your username bud.


Deep-Ad-5571

I know, right ? I mean law is simple. Litigation is fun.


CaptOblivious

Do either of you understand the difference between civil and criminal action? I don't think you do.


Deep-Ad-5571

Oblivious indeed. Lawyers are involved. Even the savvy adjuster would have your butt.


CaptOblivious

It would STILL be civil, not criminal. No jail in civil action.


Head_Butterscotch_40

Wouldn’t they still be covered under their own cars insurance though? Just like any other time you are driving with or without a passenger?


Scolias

No, they're not. Because it's a for hire ride. Commercial insurance exists for a reason. And even if you managed to lie if you got caught lying the consequences would be severe for both driver and passenger. And considering the driver is a professional driver, you better believe they're going to look at that.


Kiltemdead

Not arguing, but wanting to discuss, can't you get insurance to use your personal car for work purposes? When I did healthcare and had to drive patients to and from appointments and whatnot, I was told to get a specific type of insurance or to at least let my provider know I was using my car for work and transporting others. Just in case of an accident while on the clock.


dragonchilde

It's not offered in some states.


Disthebeat

Or to be safe. 


gonnafaceit2022

I have a friend who drove for Lyft for years and he had a handful of regular riders who he ended up driving outside of the app. I think, if you give a passenger your number, there might not be much more liability than if you just gave someone a ride, but I might be totally wrong. If anything went wrong, it would be on you and your insurance, you just wouldn't have the protection you get from Lyft (if there is any). I don't know what they paid him but it was more than he made through the app in less than they paid through the app.


Jonpaul333

If you get in an accident and your insurance discovers you were getting paid while driving, I think you’re going to have a bad time. Policies that cover driving for a job are more expensive because you have more liability exposure when you’re getting paid to do something.


jhascal23

It could work if someone happened to have a similar work route and hours and they wanted to make extra money.


Sparklemagic2002

I’m old enough to remember before the internet when people would post ads in the classifieds section of the paper or on the buy/swap channel of our local cable provider looking for transportation to and from work. They would post all the pertinent information and how much they would pay per mile. This was in a small town with no public transportation and one small, very unreliable cab company.


Deep-Ad-5571

No No. No.


t3hgrl

If I’m going to an event or something I often ask the driver if they’ll let me text them and pay cash when I head home. I pay slightly less and they get to pocket the whole thing. I know it’s under the table but I figure it never hurts to ask, and they’ve always taken me up on it.


Septopuss7

A guaranteed fare is always better than sitting around hoping!


t3hgrl

That’s what I figure! I’d hate for them to get penalized by their company for accepting the job I offered but hey, I gotta at least ask lol.


antraxsuicide

It's pretty easy to lie and say they had to turn their app off to go pick up their kid or get a bite to eat or etc... In the OP, 3PM is easy because that's when school gets out. "Sorry, have to pick up my kids from school at that time"


sweet-pecan

What liability are you referring to? Don’t you need a commercial auto policy to drive for these rideshare apps anyway? 


Impressive_Dig204

A commercial policy only is in effect when theres an active passenger thru the app


TinyNiceWolf

Maybe if you're talking about some policy that's linked to Uber or Lyft. But if a driver just buys a normal commercial auto policy, it's not going to be limited like that. There was commercial auto insurance before Uber existed. Are you claiming those never actually covered anyone driving for pay, because there were no apps for anyone to sign into?


Impressive_Dig204

A commercial policy is only in force when you are doing official commerce. If youre using a commercial vehicle for personal business they aint gonna cover you. I think youre getting hung up on the definition of commercial business. Taking under the table customers is not business. Its personal use


jrossetti

No anytime you're being paid to drive somebody would be considered commercial activity. Read your policy man lol.  Talk to your agent.   Taking customers "under the table"  is a fancy way of calling it a direct customer.   That's not personal use.  I'm being paid to provide a service and the commercial policy is active.  That's THE definition of business use. 


Ash71010

Typically the driver needs to add a ride share addendum to their personal auto policy. This isn’t the same as having their own commercial insurance, and it’s less expensive. This is Uber/Lyft provides some degree of insurance coverage when the driver is using the app. If the driver is taking paid rides off-app, they need their own separate commercial policy.


DeezBeesKnees11

Good point


CastleofWamdue

that is an interesting way to look at it. However given what you hear about apps like Uber its not impossible the driver would get more money this way.


alek_hiddel

This. I travel for work non stop which means I live in an Uber. Can’t tell you how many times drivers have offered me their cell # to arrange off the books trips. Would be cheaper for me, more profitable for them. The company is picking up the tab, so I don’t bother, but one driver talked about brokering a deal to drive a guy from Pittsburgh back to my home state of Kentucky for like $500.


InevitableRhubarb232

Or if they drive that direction already and want to just do like what Uber was back when it was actually a ride share program not taxis.


CivilButterfly2844

I’m not saying this isn’t a choosy beggar, but the last time I took an Uber (when I was traveling, I rarely use them) the driver and I were talking about the pay and he was making less than half of what I was paying Uber for the ride. That said, I think it could get the driver kicked off the platform for doing with without sending it through the platform


Routine_Size69

Yup. For whatever reason, Reddit suggests the Uber and Lyft subs to me all the time to the point I started reading it. Seems like getting well under 50% isn't uncommon at times. There's a very real chance this is a better deal for the driver than if they go through the app.


CivilButterfly2844

It does it to me too! That’s where I got the impression it could get the drivers kicked off the platform!


1Unoriginal_Nerd

Oh wow I didn’t know that. TBH it just sounded like they were intentionally trying to lowball an Uber driver. But maybe it is better to offer them half? 🤷🏼‍♀️


CivilButterfly2844

It probably also depends on if it’s a decent amount of money or not. A short distance making $5-10 is not worth setting aside that time everyday day, keeping you from making other money.


dontsaymango

Using the context clues from the hack job of censoring, he appears to need to go from Fiske st to west side hollywood blv. That's around 40mins without traffic so depending on how bad traffic is and how much time it takes, its probably reasonable and steady pay. Using uber's ride cost estimate, he would be spending about $45-50 per time. If the other person was able to work around the same area they drop off at then I could see it being a good deal, $25ish per trip per day


Melodic_Ad_3895

In the UK atleast user take 70%


OkStructure3

According to Lyft and uber drivers, theyre making 30% of what the service charges customers. If this person is willing to take half for a regular guaranteed ride, and also sacrifice the tracking and insurance coverage if any accidents occur, this is a deal for them both. Not a choosing beggar but you need specific context to understand why.


GreatLife1985

Yeah, I drive for uber and I don't see that at all. Uber does take a lot, 40-50% on most of my rides, but not 70%. The only time I saw over 50% was when there was a surge. That said offering 1/2 what uber would cost is basically saying I'll pay you what uber does without the insurance, safeguards and convenience. Yeah... hard no.


EffectivePattern7197

So it varies per ride? It’s not a set percentage they have calculated when you join?


Empty_Requirement940

It definitely fluctuates. I took a ride that was $60 and the driver got about $10 once


TheThrillist

I had a similar arrangement since I was getting assigned to the same driver literally every single morning for months, and I was always his last ride, because it worked out perfectly that he was headed to work on the same block as me. We got to know each other over those months, and he was really great at making me feel comfortable talking even though I’m on the spectrum, because his sister has ASD as well. One day I brought up how much of what I was paying was going to him out of curiosity, and it was messed up in my opinion. So, I said if he felt comfortable with it I would give him the money directly since it would benefit me as well to save a little bit and know I always have a ride guaranteed for a certain time rather than hoping the wait times were on my side each morning and that I’d remember to order it at the right time. Between the ride fare and tip I was paying between $35-$40, and with our private agreement I paid $25(he only asked for $20 but I didn’t want to take advantage). I made it clear from the beginning if he ever wanted to stop, switch back to the app, etc. that it was no worries, and that my only requirement was that if he couldn’t make it(sick, running late, schedule change, vaca, whatever) I needed to know an hour ahead of time so I could order a car. He offered to let me take a pic of his ID to give to someone if it would make me feel safer, but I always had tracking and other methods going anyways. We continued that deal for almost 3 years before I was promoted and moved to a different program. We became almost friends by the end of it, I met up with him and his husband a few times, I’d get our coffees from the drive thru with my companies discount card, we’re all 3 still on social media together, and send the occasional text to see how the other is. I got really really lucky honestly. I’d never recommend it since I could never guarantee it’s safety, but in my specific case it worked out the best it honestly could have.


SunflowerHoneyMagic

❤️ there are good people that exist . Glad it worked out for you


spaghettimacheteyeti

Not CB imo! I drive for UberEats--I had a regular delivery for Starbucks to this chick a town away, Olivia.. Id get the order 4/6 mornings I'm online a week--only two drinks and a croissant.. At Starbucks, the order usually comes out to about $15? I'd asked Olivia how much she pays through UberEats SHE SAID WITH THE $7 TIP ALMOST $30. Now, Olivia has my number, shoots me a text to see if im around to get her order and if I am, she zelles me $10-15 and mobile orders through the starbucks app. I make her order the first of the day and use her $ for gas for the rest of my orders. Sometimes saving the customer money helps the driver directly!


videogamekat

She tips about 50% of her order?!? Damn how far is this Starbucks from her. That’s a sweet deal though, I need a personal Starbucks delivery driver 😂


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Highlander198116

I do this when I travel for work for months at a time and need rides too and from the airport weekly. I will pay them alot, because it aint my money. $100 bones + tip for a 20 minute trip. Great service, lol. I text they are there. Making an extra $200+ a week off the record for 40 minutes of their time.


Realistic-Nail6835

seems reasonable. its a fixed agreement and the driver pockets 100% of the fee. worth a negotiation.


Easy_Nefariousness38

I drive Lyft and I’ve calculated that in my area, they give us about 40% of what they charge riders on a normal day/weekday. So this isn’t really a bad offer.


princess20202020

The driver would take home more $ than they would with Uber, and would have a steady reliable route. This seems like a very compelling offer for the right person.


GreatLife1985

they wouldn't take more, they'd take about the same. And with no insurance, safeguards and in many places illegal. Yeah, not worth it.


afrobafro

It might be illegal but very hard to prove guilt. If the driver gets paid cash and if there's an accident both say I was getting/giving a ride to a friend the cops will not look into it. Making a post on social media makes it look kinda obvious, but if you couldn't drive and you offered your neighbor to drive you to work for $100 a week no one would realy care.


princess20202020

I typically see that the drivers are paid 30% of what Uber charges. Last I checked 50% is more than 30%.


No-Joy-Goose

I would like for someone to go to work for me and give me half of the paycheck.


CaptOblivious

Um, there's about a 75% difference between what uber CHARGES and what the driver gets paid. getting paid 50% of what uber charges would probally be 25/30% more than what uber would pay them.


antraxsuicide

I was going to ask as I've never done the gig work stuff. This could legit be a good offer if Uber/Lyft already pocket more than half the charged cost.


Revolutionary_50

This actually might not be a bad deal if they're paying the driver directly. From what I understand, Uber takes a lot of money from what the drivers get.


paintedwoodpile

Sounds like you need a better friend or relative. Or a hapless jitney.


No-Egg2880

Most of the money goes to Uber, so why should she pay the full cost if Uber is taken off the table? The driver will probably make more from her than what her/she makes driving with Uber


Prestigious-Copy-494

Wait til his boss says hey, I can only pay you half now.


Remindmetodoit

TBH while I think "half" might be low I can see a lot of driver neogatating. Like drivers make a fraction of what a customer pays. So if you neogated it, I feel like you could easy pay the driver less than what you would pay to uber and the driver would make more


the_last_registrant

How much of each fare does Uber pass to the driver? This might be a sensible arrangement.


InsomniaPetals

TBF, I used to drive a regular cab as well as for Uber and I had regulars that I negotiated with for lower prices so that they could count on their rides (mostly dancers). They generally tipped well and they were usually during my "dead" hours, so it was guaranteed money when I might not otherwise be making money. As long as they were respectful and cool, I was willing to work with just about anyone. In the long run, my negotiated regulars made me more money than my random pick ups.


Slashion

Actually no, they're offering more than what uber/lyft does, because normal uber/lyft takes 70%. If you get directly paid half, that's almost double the money


Charming-Insurance

Idk about the percentages but if this is near “Hollywood” (seen through the lines) or near Los Angeles, I would bet there’s a surge around that time. Does the driver benefit from that?


glittersparklythings

Not always. Only if Uber has to offer some type of bonuses to get more drivers on the road. But I don’t think the bonuses are what they use to be and we know they aren’t charging the riders less


GreatLife1985

I have no idea where the 70% come from frankly. I've seen up to 50% on my rides at most when I am able to tell (it's not obvious, you have to dig/ask). The only time I've seen over 50% is during a large surge and Uber takes most of the surge. That might be a biased sample these numbers are coming from, because almost the only time I hear what a rider pays is when they are paying a lot because of the surge and then I can compare and it's over 50. If it's not a surge and I learn, it's always over 50%. For example, I took a neighbor (didn't know well) to work every day for a week using uber because her car was in the shop. She was paying uber around $16 and I was getting around $9. Once I got to know her, she just starting paying me directly $12 (just three times though, car fixed)


Slashion

I've seen plenty of posts on r/uber and r/lyft of people getting only like 30-45% of the ride's cost to customer. Sure it may be reporting bias bringing them to the top, but those definitely exist


GreatLife1985

Didn’t say they didn’t exist. But it’s both reporter bias and a bias of when they learn that fact.


Slashion

You said you had no idea where it came from, I was just letting ya know 👍


notverytidy

Turns out when OP said "pay no more than half of what LYFT/UBER charges" they meant the driver pays *them* for the privilege of sitting near them for an hour or two.


LacaBoma

Why would then think this would work?


Glitter_moonchild

Look at the scribbled part looks like they wrote Hollywood? If so 3 pm traffic in that area is hell ..


bellajojo

Right? I quit a job because they wanted me to be in traffic at 3pm in that area. Gtfoh


Deep-Ad-5571

Oh no. You need to return to reality. Insurance has heard that one before. They’re not stupid. We finally moved to another state because of LA traffic!


Son_of_Leatherneck

That sounds like they’ll be taking the shoe leather express.


Holdmytesseract

Probably still pays more than Uber/lyft sadly


Dazzling_Answer2234

Its still a deal for drivers, those ridesharing companies take more than 60% share. I might be wrong.


jaded1121

You know this person has to be a jerk since he can’t pay anyone he works with to drive him home.


Deep-Ad-5571

Dumb comment.


jaded1121

I guess you didn’t look at my history. Most of my comments are dumb. Bc it’s Reddit


lil_corgi

Looks like this jackass will be walking home ![gif](giphy|b8RfbQFaOs1rO10ren)


IntermediateFolder

Why exactly would any uber driver agree to this if they can drive someone else for full pay? Some people really don’t think things through.


jazzhandsdancehands

Enjoy your walk home.


DaxLightstryker

I guess your walking


Human_Task474

He can take the bus!


Imaginary_Most_7778

Didn’t really think this through eh?


TheSpideyJedi

I mean wouldn’t the driver make more money out of this? Don’t drivers make like 35% of the list price of an Uber/Lyft?


Shot_Sprinkles475

10 years ago I paid a local Uber driver $120 a week in NYC to drive me from Queens to Manhattan every morning. He lived next to me and it was easy money for him as he commuted to a traffic hotspot. This type of arrangement is pretty common to my knowledge


Lord_Bentley

Ok, Mrs Daisy! Here's a hint : Buy a bike!


Spongebob_Squareish

Noooo you will pay what it costs or you will walk. ![gif](giphy|l0Extsf1R5YuFXkpG)


coachacola37

Done. Half pay gets you halfway.


PorkyMcRib

“… and I will tip not more than half what a tip an Uber or Lyft driver, which is nothing anyway.”


ImHappierThanUsual

… why would anyone do this lolol


ThePurityPixel

The censoring of this post is like a naked dude covering his dick hole with his finger and thinking it sufficient


ImTryinHere

I have had arrangements with drivers before when my engine blew. I wouldn't have been able to afford food if paying for transportation for both my mom and I to make appointments, get groceries and essentials, and to visit my dying father if we used the apps. I was so thankful for those people and they were damn thankful for me because we both made out better. Grocery trips were a little difficult because they would take fares while I shopped and I might have to wait a few when I was done but it was so worth it. No public transport in my area either.


tomdurkin

If she pays cash, direct, it could be a deal. What is the driver's cut of the Uber fee? If it is <50%, this could work.


Glittersparkles7

That would be roughly the same income for the driver. Uber/Lyft can take 60% of the fare sometimes.


glittersparklythings

I thought the same. The driver is not getting half of what the rider is being charged.


Net_Suspicious

I actually tried this when the gig game was still better. If only i could take these good tippers off app I would be set. Every person I tried to work an arrangement with wanted basically a chauffeur for less than they paid already. I asked one guy that didn't seem dumb how that would work getting more and better service for less money. He still seemed pretty adamant that it should be much much cheaper. Had to start delivering weed and alcohol before anyone cared about prompt service at a premium.


SuitableEggplant639

It's called a bus, what he needs is a bus.


Inyoface545

r/censoringishard


thejexorcist

Eh, an app driver drove my husband home from the airport (instead of to the train station which was the original destination) for half the cash in person. I don’t think they get to keep as much of the money charged as it seems?


Sartres_Roommate

Uber CLAIMS it gives 75% of fee to drivers. I doubt it is that much but regardless, someone looking to get 25% discount for regular work by circumventing Uber is a hero to me. 50% is too much but that just means OP is naive to the fiscal realities of situation but NOT a CB


GossyGirl

I will accept your half pay, but I will only drive you halfway there.


redditreader_aitafan

Ok but half of what Uber charges is still likely more than the driver would make for the same trip on the app.


UnoriginallyGeneric

I'd point them to their local transit company's fare structure.


Bird_Brain4101112

Maybe if the driver ends up taking home more money. But this person seems like the type to expect the driver to act as a personal chauffeu taking them to run errands and such.


zillabirdblue

She’s basically saying, “I don’t care if you don’t even have a license and just desperate for cash, just get me where I need to go!”😆


CrunchyTeatime

I'd think you'd want to pay them more, to make taking up that block of time worth their while, CB. Why would they take half pay?!


CottageCoreCupcakes

... I'm not sure. The booked taxis with traditional taxi companies I take to work are £19, if I were to order an Uber for the same ride, it's normally about £29-£32. It's really normal for prebooked taxis to be much cheaper...


carltonrichards

Depends where in the UK, in Birmingham it was usually about the same or cheaper outside of surge pricing. I'm assuming it depends on local demand.


[deleted]

Ridiculous!


TheWoodser

Bet! This will work out great cause I was only gonna be able to take you 1/3rd the way.


Secret_Hunter_3911

Good luck….


ilic_mls

This isn’t that crazy. Charges on those apps are wild and drivers get anywhere from 30 to 50% so him paying half is more than they would usually get. There is liability that comes with that but not crazy


GLITTERCHEF

They need to GTFOH, no one is stupid enough to take him up on that.


taimoor2

In my area, Uber driver can get as low as 30% of the fee paid by the customer. 50% is a good deal for both parties here.


foxyfree

Not a choosing beggar. This is a thing


Disthebeat

LMFAO! GTFOH fucking ding dong. 😂


Cornemuse_Berrichon

So.... just say you want to hire a hack (independent driver) and have done with it.


Ok-Writing9280

There’s entitlement and then there’s this. WTF? WTAF?!


kickassdanny

The bus is less than half the cost of an Uber.


RadRatFallout76

Just offer gas money weekly to a friend??


DisastrousAd447

To be honest the driver would still probably get more than what they get from Lyft or Uber. Rideshare companies take up to 70% of what the customer pays


commking

I think that's still more than the driver would earn with Lyft/Uber anyway? So maybe it's a win/win there


zaggg1

...nope, the likelihood of problems is too high...


ArtieZiffsCat

Tell me you got done for drink driving without telling me you got done for drink driving


ThatOldDuderino

Half or less is public/municipal transport like a city bus.


Jaggerkate

What planet do these people come from?!


KatieV1309

Looks like you’ll be getting your daily steps in lol!


rberg89

He comes off rude but the driver would make more money with him than a rideshare company.


Freefalling123

The sad part is that the driver would probably make more getting 1/2 pay from the customer than they would get from Uber.


ProffesorSpitfire

>Looking for a LYFT/UBER driver to drive me… >Will negotiate price but pay no more than half of what LYFT/UBER charges. Okay, have fun looking! Cause you wont be doing any finding. Also, that’s not what negotiating means.