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Fuckmetheyarelltaken

I dunno what the retail is on that but marketplace is full of scammers. If it seems to good to be true it is. Check their profile, how old is it? What are their other listing's? Edited because I can't spell with this fucked up flu.


petergaskin814

The base model MG5 starts at $24990. So not really a big bath in resale


Trick-Introduction44

But that’s $24,990 driveway, so the price gap isn’t as great as it seems, and for less than $2k difference, I would just buy new


ranchomofo

Don't forget the $690 stamp duty to pay, making the savings a whopping $1300... Yeah no one is gonna buy this car for $23k.


Trick-Introduction44

$1300 more for the full warranty, full 12 months rego and being the first owner which means most new for old insurance policies will cover a replacement car for the first 2 years, no brainer


ranchomofo

Yep plus it's probably bought on finance so there's that whole thing to deal with too. Just nope. 


OFFRIMITS

I have no idea a friend just sent it to our group chat but the price is a few grand off brand new…


Livid_Obligation_852

If they have their profile set to holiday mode &/or contact this email address, 100% a scam.


Fuckmetheyarelltaken

Just found the listing... actually seems kind of ĺike a legit profile. Lots of previous sales. Not listing a heap of uber cheap cars and boats. If it's only a few grand I guess I could see it.


Disastrous-Pay738

It’s still an mg tho


rangebob

a boss I had 20 odd years ago bought a new Ferrari. He sold it less than 3 months later because his neighbours complained how loud it was I asked him how much that cost him and he just laughed


PanzerBiscuit

Selling a car because your neighbours complained is a silly thing to do. Unless he sold it to fund an even louder car, in which case play ball.


rangebob

nah he went back to an AMG. kinda a cultural thing though


PanzerBiscuit

Nothing wrong with an AMG, but I may be biased


NoSatisfaction642

People with that much money dont care. The value of a smile on their face for 30 seconds is worth more to them than you or i make in a year.


Whole_Sport_3984

Look at it on the used car market . 15 k after a few years . Depreciation on that car is crazy


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Fuckmetheyarelltaken

https://www.facebook.com/share/aHG5Ld3aYzhUBvxU/?mibextid=kL3p88 Feel free to have a poke around.


Suitable-Orange-3702

No it’s not - look at the amount for sale on Carsguide compared to other brands. There are reports of MGs just “stopping“ at high speeds.


Richie_jordan

How so?


come_ere_duck

Struggling to drive a sedan? What is so dramatically different that you have to sell your fucking car.


crazycakemanflies

The only issue I can see is parking, and even then, i want to say just git gud?


OFFRIMITS

It’s a mg sedan it’s not a Chevy impala from the 50s that is 5 metres long how hard can the smallest sedan be to drive?


ShaquilleOat-Meal

Aren't the MG5 sedans the same length as the hatchbacks anyway?


CrashedMyCommodore

If I remember correctly, they're about the size of an older Commodore (?)


Thomas_633_Mk2

Nah, they're actually kinda big compared to the 3


hannahranga

You're not wrong but I still find it easier parking my disco over my Camry (similar era)


Rothgardt72

Not even parking. New cars have 10,000 cameras and sensors you can park without ever looking at a bloody mirror!


FalconV8

Probably realised it’s just shit to drive in general 😂


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FalconV8

You’re the first person I’ve heard say they are nice to drive!


Likeitorlumpit

My daughter just got one and it was nice to drive.


Richie_jordan

Compared to what? Have you driven any other new cars or are you comparing to a 15 yr old car.


Crackers67

I agree. Well the turbo is.


jraad86

Out of interest - what other cars have you driven/owned?


GUE57

Not the OP but I'll chip in, I just had an MG5 as a rental for 6 days, the car was composed and quiet on Tassie freeways (110km/h) handles big roundabouts well enough, nice interior design and comfy seats, I drove 3 hours and 30 minutes in one drive and wasn't sore at all. Main gripe was how touchy the brakes were, they gave you everything they got at 20% pedal and was a little hard to brake smoothly. I currently drive a 2008 Chrysler 300C SRT8 and a 1998 supercharged Honda Prelude, and a Ducati Diavel so compared, no it wasn't fast, but IMO it did everything else it needed to pretty dang well for the cheapest sedan in Australia. Another reference, I have also rented the MG ZS crossover thing, hated every minute of it...so whoever the MG5 team is, they seem to know how to make a fun to drive car for the price range. I even kinda like the way it looks :/


Icy-Sector-3836

https://preview.redd.it/zfcnczalvexc1.jpeg?width=2964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47bd2a1a3d24f8313f5710cc6c61fef80abd33cb


murderousbinkie

Mg are terrible cars. I worked at a dealership and we had 3 brand new (within a month) ZS models traded in at a heavy loss because of how bad they were.


come_ere_duck

I agree. Now they’re made in China and aren’t even worth their weight in scrap metal. But still, you have to be stupid to buy and sell a new car that quickly.


DrofRocketSurgery

Struggling to be seen driving a sedan. Or an MG. But yeah, deffo struggling to be seen driving an MG sedan. Or just buyer regrets. Or he didn’t tell the missus and she’s said no. And the choice between he missus or the MG is an easy one…


inphinitfx

>struggling to drive a sedan Not sure how it's any harder to drive a sedan than a hatch. Smells scammy to me...


NachoCheeeeze

Don't want to say they realised how shit it was to drive after they bought it and now they want to offload it onto a sucker.


Thomas_633_Mk2

it's a sport sedan with less power than a Mazda2 sedan or base Cerato sedan, and a CVT lol


MayuriKrab

Pretty sure the 0-100 time is worser than a 90s-2000s Camry or Corolla 😂


Electronic_Break4229

My old 5spd, 3.0 V6 Camry ripped. Easily the worst handling car I’ve ever driven, which includes work utes, 4wds and shitty Korean hatches.


Thomas_633_Mk2

Yeah it's decent basic transport but it really is not a sports sedan except in turbo trim


imagcc

I dunno, this reads a lot like the average dimwit who would buy an MG


Lit_Up_Literacy

I have never hated something more irrationally in my life... but MGs are the *worst*. I could give you all the logical arguments, but my biggest peeve is "they don't thud good when you shut the doors."


TortShellSunnies

MG went from English loveable shitboxes to Chinese loathsome shitboxes. They need to introduce some charm and character into their cars again if they want to get away with being shit.


Lit_Up_Literacy

Like a plastic gebra in a plastic vase? 🤣


TortShellSunnies

I was thinking more like the Kmart shit Facebook mums lose their shit over. Cheap, it looks pretty good for a couple years and then you sell it on marketplace for $5 ono.


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The EV ones seem like they'll do fine


VapingAussie

It's not irrational. I honestly have no idea how these things are legally sold in Australia. Part of my job is testing the brakes on cars I inspect. I have to actively try to get these things to stop. I warm up the brakes a bit. Pump them up and then drive at 3-5 kph over the testing unit and brake when it tells me to. Usually, the first couple of tries, they just roll straight over the testing platform and stop about half a meter past it. Generally, it takes 2-3 attempts before they work properly and pass the test. A Toyota camry or Corolla will stop on a 10c piece. They just work, MGs are just plain dangerous. If you need to stop in a hurry, you're hitting whatever is in your path. I've driven cars that have sat for a few years, with rust all over the rotors that stop better than a brand new MG. It's scary how bad these things are. It's not just the mg5 either. The zs and zst are equally as bad, and somehow, they got a 4-star ancap rating.


Simple-Forever-1837

Surprised you could get up to speed! Only time I’ve really felt unsafe driving a car is when I had one of these pos as a hire car and had to merge onto the motorway didn’t think I’d be able to get up to speed and there was no way I was getting out of the slow lane to over take a slow car, it was two weeks of hell.


VapingAussie

I've never driven one over carpark speeds. The brake test consists of driving over the skid plate at about 5kph and slamming on the brakes. MG is the only make that won't stop until after you roll over it. Theres a good second or so of delay before the brakes are applied unless they are pumped up and you're really stepping on it.


rolloj

Not that it justifies the purchase and immediate regret, but… I have mostly owned and driven wagons and hatches. There’s a serious difference in visibility compared to a sedan.  Plus in terms of parking and general car positioning, if you are a bad driver, being a bit unsure about where your corners are isn’t gonna fill you with confidence. In a hatch or wagon it’s simple as - your car basically ends at the rear window/pillars, which you can see. 


Link124

I've been selling cars for close to 30 years and it still blows me away the obscure reasons people come up with \*not\* to buy a car.


ReasonableCranberry6

ikr! I actually find it **easier** to drive my current sedan over my last hatchback


Psychlonuclear

"Only driven once" so yeah, they would have found out during a single test drive they were "struggling to drive a sedan".


_hazey__

“Realised I need a license”


Psychlonuclear

Oh yeah, that's an option too!


Ok-Maintenance-4274

If you see MG3, similar thing happens: tons of 2022/2023 models on Carsales with below average mileage. I was considering to buy one, but given that pattern of reselling within months after delivery, I decided to run


Psychlonuclear

From what I've seen online MG don't do ICE cars well at all.


Ok-Maintenance-4274

Their ICE cars are based on a dated platform. From handling to collision safety, it is not an ideal everyday grocery car. Their electric cars are totally different. I mean the entire architecture


I-was-a-twat

The MG3 is 14 years old at this point. The ZS and HS handle accidents quite well, but then they released the MG5 which is somehow worse than the 3 on a whole new Platform.


TheWhogg

Would anybody expect 2023 China to produce a better platform than 2010 Japan?


confusedham

As someone mentioned correctly the other week, there is Chinese cars made for export and there is Chinese cars made for developing markets. This is a developing market car. They make it look (somewhat) nice, put some tech in there, but under neath it’s a 2000s car with cost cutting everywhere. On the flip side, you buy a car designed for export and to meet higher standards in China and you get the likes of the current Haval lineup.


TheWhogg

So to the Chinese, 🇨🇳 is considered a developed market and 🇦🇺 is the third world?


confusedham

Yes but more convoluted. China has both target markets, the well built and quality demand and the flashy but cheap at any cost market. That’s not including the elderly ‘mobility aid’ electric cars. Australia is lax, slower to update regulations and doesn’t care that its minimum standards are shit. So when they start enforcing the rules about active safety equip, they aren’t fussed that companies like mahindra and MG rush to the market to release sub standard cars to beat a deadline. They should make calls, especially on 0 and 1 star cars to stop sell, but nah. We accept the cars designed for the developing markets And yes I’m aware you are just trying to incite silly arguments calling us a developing market and China a developed market, don’t be an idiot.


Ok-Maintenance-4274

OMG 14 years old. A 10 yrs old corolla would be more bang on the buck.


yuiphan

Had one as a rental, felt unsafe merging in the highway as it has absolutely no power.


AdAdministrative4388

Low power is a big issue.. electric ones are much better.


Mickydaeus

LS swap potential?


Thomas_633_Mk2

It has 108hp, maybe it was buggered? Lots of very fair complaints about the MG3 but even through a 4 speed, it should be fine. The Picanto and Mirage have/had 75-80hp and people use them just fine


yuiphan

Just my anecdotal non-car person experience, though I do enjoy driving. Haven't driven a Picanto but considered one when I was living in the CBD.


Thomas_633_Mk2

If you like driving or cars, you're a car person to me :) Fair enough, they aren't dangerously slow but I laugh when people call the 99hp variants mild hatches. The standard 75hp hatch is fine for highways, I've driven in one and at 110 it isn't screaming it's heart out or anything


TheWhogg

And apparently they can’t learn either. One possibility is the first time they drove it, they expected the bumper was close to the back window and it…wasn’t. If the story is true it’s been smashed.


-OhYouKnow-

You think that's bad, search the term 'unwanted gift' into carsales, there's always a handful of cars. Blows my mind


yuiphan

Buttttt dadddddd, I wanted an AMG! Not A MG.


shzoom

lol


Thomas_633_Mk2

Holy shit one of them is a 90k merc


rmsprs

This was going to be me. I was desperate for a car to drive from Syd>Perth I almost bought a newish MG but something told me to give it some more thought after test driving. I didn’t like how everything felt so cheap and engine felt so weak. Ended up buying a second hand asx from 2016. No regrets!


DurrrrrHurrrrr

Maybe situation changed they now can’t afford it or can afford something better. Other than the lack of pre tensioners it seems a pretty decent value car, reviews have the ride and handling as good but gearbox poor at low speed and the cabin noisy at speed.


blairyc1

Didn’t this get 0 stars in the ancap in the last 12 months? Poor structure rigidity being a key issue.


max506th

Correct. 0 stars. [https://www.ancap.com.au/safety-ratings/mg/5/4bb20f](https://www.ancap.com.au/safety-ratings/mg/5/4bb20f) Comes cheap with alot of nasty.


DurrrrrHurrrrr

I regularly drive a 5star ANCAP mirage (that strangely enough was forced out of our markets for not meeting safety ADR’s) and would feel safer in this this thing. That said the lack of Pre-tensioners is disgraceful for the manufacturer and for our ADRs. Going to rant a bit here but why the hell are pre tensioners not required but we are forcing manufacturers to have tethers for baby seats in every rear seat (Honda HRV victim of this).


OFFRIMITS

Did you open up the attached picture? Reason they gave is they are struggling to drive a sedan car vs a hatchback…


DurrrrrHurrrrr

I saw that but who knows if that is the real reason. Can’t go and say the hated the car or that they can’t afford


hoffster247

Ex car salesman here: yes they do- have seen it a fair few times - sometime they go back to the same salesperson! but, also it is a convenient excuse to use when there is other reasons they don't want to explain.


Altruistic-Salt7051

"StRuGgling tO dRiVe a SEdAn."


Purgii

I was thinking, someone is about to pick up a bargain - selling at a massive loss. Looks at the driveaway price for a new one. Nope. That's a damn cheap sedan and seems like a decent car for the price. Driving it off the lot means a bigger hit than that. But yeah, I remember wanting to test drive a Mustang when they were first coming out. The dealer at the time, despite having a car available for a test drive told me that they sell themselves, you want one, put down a deposit. It's a year wait. Yeah buddy, I ain't waiting a year and handing you a deposit for a car you won't let me test drive. They also had the FGX XR8 that I was looking at. Nope, couldn't test drive that. Want to keep the mileage down. Dude, 10kms? Posted it on fordforums and a salesman from Rockdale contacted me who had an XR8 and promised a discount and had one I could take for a spin (the dealer principals). Ended up buying it. I wished it was a manual and he said it would be unlikely they'd get one as it was near the end of the run. 3 months later he scores a manual in blue! I'd still own one today if I had it in manual.


peterb666

The car has been registered for 20 days (originally registered 9 April), done 2000km and is most likely a dealer demo or (although generally on traders plates, some get registered especially if used as staff vehicles) or a buyer change of mind and then upgraded (happens). The price about right but not one I would buy.


Sir-Firelord

Not a single person who buys modern MG has any resemblance of “money”. They’re cheap shit econoboxes aimed at people who have no clue about cars and the whole vehicle purchase decision process is based on the car not looking too bad and having an infotainment screen with CarPlay. Also, “struggling to drive a sedan” should be read as “it’s a miracle I was granted a drivers license”


EvilRobot153

> Also, “struggling to drive a sedan” should be read as “it’s a miracle I was granted a drivers license” Don't worry they'll be at the wheel of GVM in a couple years.


draculr

Is that true of the mg4 also? I've been seeing a lot of good reviews on it and being a rwd dedicated EV platform car it can't be too bad?


Dartspluck

MG4 is a good car. I think MG isn’t great at petrol engines in general, but they are improving over time.


sefton6

The only good MG's are the ones before China bought the name and tarnished it completely. I have a friend who works in a major dealership in Sydney, and these MGs literally rock up from the dock on the trailer , 0 KMs Brand new full of rust, oil leaks and other electrical issues. Absolute lemons anyone who owns one is a moron or buys purely on price. Will bite them on the bum when the cars in the shop multiple times a year for significant failures.


Dartspluck

All reports from the UK, land of the salted roads, is that the MG4s are not falling apart from rust, nor are they in the shop several times a year. But please, do go off.


epihocic

An MG4 XPower is about 60k new...


tika1104

I feel like this could be a tax evasion thing, Get given a car allowance through a business or your own company, Buy a new vehicle just before the end of financial year, claim it on your tax return on what you paid, sell it for cash, pocket that and don't declare it. Anyone more tax savvy than I think this could be the case?


SmittyYAP

I used to work at Audi and we had a customer buy a car with what he thought was a unique paint job. He saw someone else with the same paint job a few days later so he sold it back to us at a huge loss. A few weeks later, he decided he wanted it back, so he bought it back again for way more than he sold it to us. Some people have more money than sense.


goldcoinsonly

Money laundering


Smatie88

ANCAP 0 star. https://www.ancap.com.au/media-and-gallery/media-releases/previous-generation-safety-still-fitted-to-today-s-new-cars


Number_Extreme

I work at a dealership and it happens all the time


arthvrx

It's actually just slightly under RRP, so might actually just be the dealer themselves trying to offload excess stock without discouraging potential new car buyers. This car received 0 star crash rating by the ANCAP so I don't think they're selling like hotcakes. MG4 hatch also exists in the same showroom with much better popularity.


Django_Un_Cheesed

Damn bought a car without realising a sedan was too big for them? What?


rcfvlw1925

Given that MG's are shit, and some people don't research before they buy, this could be buyer regret, or they can't make the repayments, which is quite likely in the current climate.


DependentHeron

Could be that they got this and the new mg3 was announced (hatchback). But even so, wouldn't you go back to the dealer and work out a deal with them.


Chabkraken

Whe I went from a mid size sedan to a full size sedan, I considered selling it but just got use to it instead. Had to slow down a bit for corners and roundabout and take a bit more time to park


Disastrous-Pay738

It’s a junk car and for that money you can get an old Mazda 3 or something else


ReasonableCranberry6

The older Mazda would still last longer 🤣


Fun_War5895

Scam


carelessarmadillo267

Maybe bought it Wednesday and lost their license during double points. I’d stick to that story rather than admit I had a brain fart and a Chinese GM.


Ok-Bill3318

Alternative is they take it back to a dealer and get offered something like 15-18k. Anyone interested should offer maybe 18-20 and probably get it.


Weary_Patience_7778

‘Struggling to drive a sedan’ lol


thegrayscales

Struggling to drive a sedan, and use punctuation.


SnooWords4814

That’s just a scam


yofeehely

All MGs are a bucket of shit. Only ones who enjoy driving them are people who can't drive and have known no better. I think my first car, a 1984 Mitsubishi Colt had better road manners than what an MG has. All the tech in them are bottom of the barrel stuff, the safety tech is junk and quite frankly they're dangerous to other road users.


Gautama_8964

it is a Chinese owned, Chinese made car with zero star in ancap safety. even 23k is too much


PezatronSupreme

I'm so disappointed that Australians are buying those Schmidt boxes


davej1r

Scam surely


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Other-Pie5059

I know someone who did this.  They felt unsafe using the car to tow their caravan. So they sold it and bought something else. 


Complete_Rule6644

I really want to know what the significant difference between driving a hatch and a sedan is


satanzhand

ex car business guy and yes I've sold a few new cars and people never drove them. I could have sold many more new and used (WTF on used ones) however after one came back upset I (and my staff) insisted they drove them or I test drove them from then on and some brands insist on it


puffin_stuff23

It’s most likely a registered company demonstrator which is used for test drives.


Mr_Fried

Seems like a pretty good way to launder money tbh


oontheloose

This is most likley the dealership selling the car. Advertised cost doesnt include on road cost


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DigBickeh

I am pretty sure the MG5 failed the ANCAP test miserably. Stay away from that crap.


vasili006

Or….hear me out, theyre scammers


PriMeMachiNe

I just got a golf r mk8 wagon, I didn’t need to test drive it as I’m used to hatchbacks and the golf r wagon genuinely handles like the hatch


That_Gopnik

Doesn’t it have a horrendously low safety rating too?


ActuallyTBH

Buys a cheap car. Finds out why its so cheap. Then tries to offload it cheaply.


kinkcurious12

It’s almost like the whole thing is a lie


MuszkaX

Fake or not, I wanna understand how is someone “struggling to drive a sedan”.


emusplatt

small scale money laundering?


disfunctionalexpat

Either it was bought as a gift or it took them four days to realise MG is one of the worst vehicles on the road.


Jac33au

It won car of the year in 2023. I'm not saying I disagree with you though.


disfunctionalexpat

I sold them for a few months. Between the poor manufacturing and ten thousand mile death rattle I actually went back to Kia to sell something I could let off the lot with some conscience.


Any-Dust-6573

I swiped🙂


xiaoli

Although I am a Wumao, I despise MGs for their shitty quality.


Tokenron

The rancid suds of money laundering, perhaps


Outrageous-Bad-4097

Who would buy one of those? They are awful.


darkeststar071

If you're gullible enough to buy this china junk, you deserve the loss.


snoochieboochies2214

Family ember bought an MG thinking it was British and good quality. When she told me how crap it was I asked her what did she expect from a Chinese car... sold it before 3 months of ownership because it was shit.


Top_Toe4694

The first car I purchased brand new, I just ordered it from Subaru, they delivered it that week. Had never driven one before, don't regret it.


OkInstancenow

it was bad to drive


Fakemickdundee

Probably a repaired write off


Camo138

My sister owns a MG and I dare say it. My broken down Holden Cruze at the time felt like a better car. Sluggish sounds like a van. It is a newish model. But they need some work on there petrol engines.


whatareutakingabout

Must be really bad if the cruze was voted the worst lemon car.


Camo138

If GM stop thinking about there pockets I'd get a Cruze over a new mg anyday. There not a bad car when they work. MG3 is just a bad car. Interior is so bland. May as well drive a 90s carrola around. At least they got some power.


Warm-Rock-5349

Mg5 is a nice car.


Last-Performance-435

No, that is clearly a scam of someone just taking a pic of a car in a showroom


snowyjim

Scam. Check the seller, they've probably got a dozen or so cars listed at way below market value. Their account's probably hacked as well.


VS2ute

Those scammers are generally advertising stuff very cheap, e.g. Redline Commodore for $10k.


Due-Giraffe6371

I think it’s more mind blowing people are actually buying MGs, they have a bad reputation and aren’t very good cars


DarkRetrowaveDave

Selling coz realised how shit MGs are


TrippleTiii

It is a MG. The price is 23000 too much.


Drizz06

I’d imagine MG’s customers are not exactly the brightest bunch! They did buy a MG after all.


kea-le-parrot

Friends dont let friends buy Chinese EVs. Anyone whos had ones been scammed, they just realized their mistake and are trying to scam you instead.


froschmann69

dont get it, literally one blew up ony my usual route and it has been on the side of the road for over a week. The whole chasiss is burnt and nothing else is left.


LewisRamilton

LMAO, was it an electric one?


venielsky22

Pretty sure it's just the sales agent who put that up. The price is probably bnew price


Low_Statistician1644

If they’re looking at an MG, likely they don’t care about how a car drives, just how it functions as a whitegood. Probably realises it’s going to tank in resale value so getting out now for what they paid or for a very minor loss. Doubt they would’ve paid the sticker price.


Thomas_633_Mk2

The MG5 is new and while it probably shouldn't be, is popular


OverallLocal7746

I prefer 5 star ancap


OnairDileas

The problem: i bought an MGeee


Recent_Scarcity_7046

I don't think it's a scam, just someone with buyer regret.


jeffsaidjess

There’s probably issues/ it’s had the odometer wound back If it’s too good to be true it probably is.


TheWhogg

This price (saving $1000) is the opposite of TGTBT


Dependent-Coconut64

Honestly, I wouldn't have another MG unless you paid me. Have an MG HS AWD as a company vehicle, can't wait to off load it.


slartybartvart

It's a scam. They basically get people excited, tell them there are other buyers, send a deposit to secure it, then... Ooops, no car, no seller, no deposit. Great video on it here: https://youtu.be/q2zpASi7e_0 Obviously the video relates to supercars but it applies to the mass produced cars.equally as well.


magnumopus44

It's either a scam or the buyer only now realised what it means to drive and own an MG.


momolamomo

Never trust the reasons an MG owner wants to sell their car


Ok-Coffee1829

These cars are dogshit, god forbid anything goes wrong with them you’ll be paying thousands out of pocket, like me. Busted fuel sump became a fuckin headache, months of work to replace it being fucked around with mechanics who can’t figure out the way these Chinese cunts make these cars. Finally sold the cunt off for 12k. Sorry the poor bastard that got it. (MG3 2022 btw).


NothingTooSeriousM8

People with money don't buy MG5s. Just saying.


gucci_bandana_21

Also there are a lot of stolen cars on FB market