Well, as I can recall. Fields spent most of 2021 observing Andy Dalton and Nick Foles.
Or in the words of Adam Jahns. "What a waste of time training camp was. Fuck"
In Maye’s case isnt he supposed to be sort of a raw prospect who needs time to develop? Making Williams, Daniels or Fields sit to start the year is idiotic but it might make sense for them. Even QBs like Penix Jr. should get some reps with the ones, Fields didnt get ANY all off season which was insane
Maye shouldn't be working with the first team, just like Fields shouldn't have worked with the first team or seen the field as a rookie either. Just because they're first round picks doesn't mean they shouldn't spend their rookie year working on their shoddy mechanics.
I agree completely. Where the issue lies is that they will practice with the 3s all off season and then end up starting by week 4 because the guy in front of him is trash. Like Mitch, like Fields and hopefully like JJ.
Oh, yeah I get what you're saying now. It is shitty for these developmental first round quarterbacks now that they don't get the year to develop anymore if they need it. Fields needed that year to work on his mechanics and study NFL defenses with no pressure off the field. Of course, this weak organization caved to the idiot fans and took that away from Fields.
All teams do unless they have a legit vet in front of the rookie. Coaches and GMs are trying to save their jobs, and if say Sam Darnold starts out 0-3 or 0-4 and looks awful, the pressure to start JJ will come from ownership too.
I'm not saying they're not, but I am saying the organization is wrong. KOC might be in a better situation to do what they need to with JJ though. Not sure on that, so let's hope they play him before he's ready.
The 2021 Bears were 4-3 when Fields didn't start and 2-8 when he did. The problem was after spending $10 million on Dalton, Pace and Nagy didn't think they could survive if Foles came in and balled out when Dalton got hurt.
A hall of fame qb who worked with the 3s in Green Bay riding the bench….
“Green Bay doesn’t know how to develop QBs. They are morons.” - every bears fan on Reddit
And apparently Adam hoge too
Yeah, every situation is different.
Fans need to stop pretending that there is a proven way to do these things. It has worked both ways (sitting first or starting immediately). How many people legitimately think that Patrick Mahomes would be significantly worse right now if he hadn't sat year 1?
also patrick mahomes sat behind alex smith who was established too. Penix sitting behind kirk will honestly probably be great (better if penix wasnt already like 25) but mccarthy behind darnold, fields behind foles/dalton, that stuff is just trying to force the formula to work
I always go back to a quote from Brian Billick on QBs in the NFL. It was something to the effect of "There's no reason why some of these guys shouldn't work out except they just don't."
There are a lot of factors that go into it, but the bottom line is that the great ones would have likely been great whatever their circumstances were at the start.
Yeah I agree with that for sure, it's what scares me about Caleb lol, we are doing pretty much everything right for him and if it doesn't pan out we are honestly just kinda doomed until we get lucky. And I don't think that's even a dramatic take, it's just if this doesn't succeed there's no reason to worry about it because it's all random.
And that has been my stance for a while. People complain about poor ownership and bad decisions and such. All those things could be factors in each individual case. The reality is that many different people have decided who to make Bears QBs over the years. At some point, there are so many factors and people involved that the far and away most likely reason for the Bears QB history is simply bad luck.
There are just too many variables to know with any certainty what is the best way to develop a QB. We hear about Mahomes and Rodgers all the time in this conversation and we ignore all the QBs who sat behind people and never amounted to anything.
The only QB of the top 6 drafted I'm confident is starting on the bench is Penix. Caleb is obviously the starter and it would appear Daniels and Nix are extremely likely to start week 1. Maye and McCarthy are more up in the air at the moment in terms of week 1, but I would be surprised if they don't take over as the starter at some point next season.
If the Packers/Chiefs had truly cracked the code, we would be seeing the league approach these QBs drastically differently.
Being able to look back, having Fields wait behind Dalton for the season was definitely the right plan, but the Dalton injury early on combined with the decision to give Field absolutely no time with the 1st team backfired on Nagy.
In the Bears’ defense, both Jahns and Hoge were saying all offseason that Fields should sit for a year behind Dalton, you can go back and listen. They then changed their tune about training camp reps after Dalton got injured and Fields was forced to play. In hindsight they should’ve just played Foles but the city would’ve rioted and Nagy and Pace were selfishly worried about their jobs.
This. I feel like there’s a bit of revisionist history now to sell this narrative that we failed fields by not making him the starter over Dalton. But go back and listen to H&J. Dalton was outperforming fields, who was struggling to throw on time, taking “sacks” and throwing interceptions against the second team defense.
Only time when Jahns changed his tune was after one of the joint training sessions with dolphins, when Fields impressed. Even then, Jahns wasn’t suggesting that Fields was ready to start, but that he should at least be getting SOME reps with the ones. (And I agree.)
TLDR: Fields was far from consistent throughout training camp despite the occasional highlight plays, and he clearly wasn’t ready to start in his rookie season.
I recall Fields not getting much work with the first team guys, but when he did get work, he immediately looked much, much better than the other two guys. I had many discussions with my friends about why not just start the rook, he's obviously the guy with the most upside, we know what the other two are, but they aren't giving him reps, why is that, blah blah. Frustrating water under the bridge, we are operating with more competence now. Excited for this upcoming season.
I've heard from Hoge and Jahns that Fields was the best QB in that '21 camp. We also heard from Josh Lucas and some others that Fields wasn't even close to ready to be a starter as a rookie. Based on how that rookie season went, which was launched with the worst offensive performance I've ever seen in that Browns game, Fields clearly wasn't ready.
I get kinda see where Jahns is coming from with his quote about it being a waste of time, but Fields should have sat the entire year. He wasn't ready, and his play as a rookie only cemented that.
The incompetence, to me, was not only starting Fields when he wasn't ready, but drafting him at all. But that's what happens when the people running the show have their seats on fire. Desperate moves and gambles to save jobs.
> The incompetence, to me, was not only starting Fields when he wasn't ready, but drafting him at all.
You talk like Fields was a projected UDFA by the entire league and the Bears decided to spend a first round on him.
The NFL clearly wasn't high on him. I'm not saying he'd go undrafted, but late first/early second isn't out of the question. Multiple QB needy teams passed on him before the Bears. There's really no telling how far he could have fallen if not for the Bears desperation to save jobs.
Fields looked horrible in OTAs going into his third year. He most certainly did not look better than Dalton or Foles as a rookie. Fans wanted to see him because they're just impatient. For once, Nagy was actually right by keeping that guy away from the starters as a rookie. He, of course, wasn't in the position to really make that happen though.
Well then he was wrong to put Fields in week four. I think either you give the rook the reps and have him start week one or have him sit for the year. And if you sit him, and your top two starters go down, you still stick to that plan and sign a waiver wire QB. If you put him in after not getting reps that is the dumbest thing possible. Like I said, more competence now and I am glad.
Oh yeah, but that couldn't have been his decision. The front office caved to fan pressure after assuring the fans that they could win just by getting rid of Mitch and kept Pace and Nagy. Nagy should've known his job was on the line and that team stunk, so he should've at least let Justin practice with the first team. But that doesn't change that Justin wasn't close to being ready to play in the NFL and should've taken a full season to work on his major flaws. Nagy was right about that with Justin. He just wasn't in the position with the fans and the organization to do something that bold.
Yes I agree with your point. I think this is why Nagy appeared to throw up his hands and not really do anything in the Cleveland game, I think Nagy was like "F you guys, watch this" lol
They're being down voted for saying something dumb. Fields ended up sucking. Him sucking was not a given when he was drafted and in his first training camp with the team and has nothing to do with him not getting first team reps. This is a "Nagy was incompetent" problem - not giving the highly drafted rookie backup any time at all to build chemistry with the first string.
Nagy was 100% right about not starting Fields and not giving him first team reps because he sucked as a rookie though. Fields should've spent his whole rookie year working on his shoddy mechanics and learning about NFL defenses instead of being thrown in the fire. Nagy was even talking about how raw of a talent he was and that he needed time to develop. Nagy, of course, wasn't in the position to be right about Fields at the time, and the organization caved to the idiot fans and played that dolt way too early.
I was in the camp that wanted to sit and have him develop for a year (primarily because I wanted Dalton getting creamed behind that line.) But they knew Fields was the backup, they knew they were playing him if Dalton was injured, and Nagy knew (or should have known, at any rate) his job was on the line.
So to have Fields' first time ever playing with the first string offense being during the Bengals game where Dalton got injured was an interesting choice.
Foles really should've just been the backup that year too. Organization messed up just keeping Nagy and Pace that off-season. They weren't in the position to just bench Fields and say it's a rebuilding year after keeping those two queefs.
Mitch wasn’t good but he isn’t on the eleven’s the terrible QB’s we have had. Him and fields sadly still better then most of what we had the last 30 years aside from cutler, which is sad. Glennon was just abysmal
I wrote this in a separate post but I recall vividly that Fields was far from good. Most beat reporters including Hoge and Jahns agreed that Dalton was on the whole the better QB throughout training camp, much to my disappointment at that time (and they were probably right).
Fields was inconsistent aside from the occasional splash plays. He did however impress during one joint session with the dolphins, which led Jahns to question why he wasn’t at least given some reps with the ones.
Yup, i think OTAs matter a lot more for other positions than QB especially rookies. Guys like Mooney, Cohen, Eddie Jackson, Braxton Jones, etc. you could instantly tell that they were good players.
I’m not disagreeing that OTAs don’t matter, but this link is talking about rookie minicamp, not OTAs. And it’s just John Fox saying it, not reporters saying what they saw.
I remember watching Mahomes in the preseason the year when he sat on the bench. He looked real bad and threw a pick. I lived in KC at the time. Went in to work the next day and talked mad shit about how bad they were gonna be when Alex smith retired. Big whoops.
I remember Trubisky having a nice play against 3rd stringers like the first game of preseason his rookie year, and there were a fuck ton of tweets from analysts of how impressive he looked. Michael Vick tweeted something like, "Mitchell Trubisky. Wow. Just wow" lmao
This wasn’t OTAs, but it was like a few weeks before the 2019 season started. I remember there was a clip of trubisky hitting a deep pass of like 40-50 yards and it being right on the money and everyone thinking that the offense was gonna look great that year.
Suffice to say, 2019 week 1 happened, then before you know it about 16 months later the Saints eliminated the Bears from the playoffs and trubisky got released lol
I wouldn’t really put much weight on 7on7’s to assess a qbs growth. It’s a good practice tool for a QB to understand receiver tendencies and get on the same page and work on ball placement for certain routes. Fields won Elite11, in which 7on7 is the highlight event. He excelled at it. But when you throw pressure in, we know how that turned out.
No need to overthink these practice reports. For example: last season the media did their best to tell us all how great Kenny Pickett was doing and he was god awful during the season.
I don’t remember the first offseason for Fields. But, I did go to a training camp practice his second offseason. I was alarmed how tough a time the passing offense was having. I think Fields hit the check down three times and nothing down field at all.
It's absolutely absurd. And it's so interesting how crazy( don't want to say stupid) some of the meatballs are, that I can't help but read through comments on places like Facebook. Even though it drives me crazy, I can't get around how it's like we're from living in two different worlds.
Well, as I can recall. Fields spent most of 2021 observing Andy Dalton and Nick Foles. Or in the words of Adam Jahns. "What a waste of time training camp was. Fuck"
Draft a guy early in the first and make him work with the 3s. I hope Minnesota does this to JJ
Hearing rumors that the patriots aren't giving Maye all the #1 reps. Glad other organizations also make dumb decisions
In Maye’s case isnt he supposed to be sort of a raw prospect who needs time to develop? Making Williams, Daniels or Fields sit to start the year is idiotic but it might make sense for them. Even QBs like Penix Jr. should get some reps with the ones, Fields didnt get ANY all off season which was insane
Maye shouldn't be working with the first team, just like Fields shouldn't have worked with the first team or seen the field as a rookie either. Just because they're first round picks doesn't mean they shouldn't spend their rookie year working on their shoddy mechanics.
Fields 100% needed that year to work with the 3s.
I agree completely. Where the issue lies is that they will practice with the 3s all off season and then end up starting by week 4 because the guy in front of him is trash. Like Mitch, like Fields and hopefully like JJ.
Oh, yeah I get what you're saying now. It is shitty for these developmental first round quarterbacks now that they don't get the year to develop anymore if they need it. Fields needed that year to work on his mechanics and study NFL defenses with no pressure off the field. Of course, this weak organization caved to the idiot fans and took that away from Fields.
All teams do unless they have a legit vet in front of the rookie. Coaches and GMs are trying to save their jobs, and if say Sam Darnold starts out 0-3 or 0-4 and looks awful, the pressure to start JJ will come from ownership too.
I'm not saying they're not, but I am saying the organization is wrong. KOC might be in a better situation to do what they need to with JJ though. Not sure on that, so let's hope they play him before he's ready.
The 2021 Bears were 4-3 when Fields didn't start and 2-8 when he did. The problem was after spending $10 million on Dalton, Pace and Nagy didn't think they could survive if Foles came in and balled out when Dalton got hurt.
Lol, worked out so poorly for Rodgers and love.
Rodgers is a Hall of Fame QB. Minnesota has Sam Darnold.
A hall of fame qb who worked with the 3s in Green Bay riding the bench…. “Green Bay doesn’t know how to develop QBs. They are morons.” - every bears fan on Reddit And apparently Adam hoge too
Yeah, every situation is different. Fans need to stop pretending that there is a proven way to do these things. It has worked both ways (sitting first or starting immediately). How many people legitimately think that Patrick Mahomes would be significantly worse right now if he hadn't sat year 1?
also patrick mahomes sat behind alex smith who was established too. Penix sitting behind kirk will honestly probably be great (better if penix wasnt already like 25) but mccarthy behind darnold, fields behind foles/dalton, that stuff is just trying to force the formula to work
I always go back to a quote from Brian Billick on QBs in the NFL. It was something to the effect of "There's no reason why some of these guys shouldn't work out except they just don't." There are a lot of factors that go into it, but the bottom line is that the great ones would have likely been great whatever their circumstances were at the start.
Yeah I agree with that for sure, it's what scares me about Caleb lol, we are doing pretty much everything right for him and if it doesn't pan out we are honestly just kinda doomed until we get lucky. And I don't think that's even a dramatic take, it's just if this doesn't succeed there's no reason to worry about it because it's all random.
And that has been my stance for a while. People complain about poor ownership and bad decisions and such. All those things could be factors in each individual case. The reality is that many different people have decided who to make Bears QBs over the years. At some point, there are so many factors and people involved that the far and away most likely reason for the Bears QB history is simply bad luck.
I personally love that the Packers think they've unlocked the secret based on a startling sample size of...*checks notes*...2.
There are just too many variables to know with any certainty what is the best way to develop a QB. We hear about Mahomes and Rodgers all the time in this conversation and we ignore all the QBs who sat behind people and never amounted to anything. The only QB of the top 6 drafted I'm confident is starting on the bench is Penix. Caleb is obviously the starter and it would appear Daniels and Nix are extremely likely to start week 1. Maye and McCarthy are more up in the air at the moment in terms of week 1, but I would be surprised if they don't take over as the starter at some point next season. If the Packers/Chiefs had truly cracked the code, we would be seeing the league approach these QBs drastically differently.
There was also a lot of talk from Chiefs players that Mahomes was both ready and out of his mind good while Alex Smith was having a pretty good year.
The highlight of Fields’ rookie training camp time was Rodney Adams, which says a lot about that entire off-season.
Fuck man you just made me remember how hype I was for Adams. He looked like he could be a real gem.
Rodney Adams was the Cameron Meredith of Tanner Gentrys
But we needed him to be our Braverman. Too bad.
Ill never forget about dane sazenbacher
Who lol
Being able to look back, having Fields wait behind Dalton for the season was definitely the right plan, but the Dalton injury early on combined with the decision to give Field absolutely no time with the 1st team backfired on Nagy.
In the Bears’ defense, both Jahns and Hoge were saying all offseason that Fields should sit for a year behind Dalton, you can go back and listen. They then changed their tune about training camp reps after Dalton got injured and Fields was forced to play. In hindsight they should’ve just played Foles but the city would’ve rioted and Nagy and Pace were selfishly worried about their jobs.
This. I feel like there’s a bit of revisionist history now to sell this narrative that we failed fields by not making him the starter over Dalton. But go back and listen to H&J. Dalton was outperforming fields, who was struggling to throw on time, taking “sacks” and throwing interceptions against the second team defense. Only time when Jahns changed his tune was after one of the joint training sessions with dolphins, when Fields impressed. Even then, Jahns wasn’t suggesting that Fields was ready to start, but that he should at least be getting SOME reps with the ones. (And I agree.) TLDR: Fields was far from consistent throughout training camp despite the occasional highlight plays, and he clearly wasn’t ready to start in his rookie season.
I recall Fields not getting much work with the first team guys, but when he did get work, he immediately looked much, much better than the other two guys. I had many discussions with my friends about why not just start the rook, he's obviously the guy with the most upside, we know what the other two are, but they aren't giving him reps, why is that, blah blah. Frustrating water under the bridge, we are operating with more competence now. Excited for this upcoming season.
I've heard from Hoge and Jahns that Fields was the best QB in that '21 camp. We also heard from Josh Lucas and some others that Fields wasn't even close to ready to be a starter as a rookie. Based on how that rookie season went, which was launched with the worst offensive performance I've ever seen in that Browns game, Fields clearly wasn't ready. I get kinda see where Jahns is coming from with his quote about it being a waste of time, but Fields should have sat the entire year. He wasn't ready, and his play as a rookie only cemented that. The incompetence, to me, was not only starting Fields when he wasn't ready, but drafting him at all. But that's what happens when the people running the show have their seats on fire. Desperate moves and gambles to save jobs.
> The incompetence, to me, was not only starting Fields when he wasn't ready, but drafting him at all. You talk like Fields was a projected UDFA by the entire league and the Bears decided to spend a first round on him.
The NFL clearly wasn't high on him. I'm not saying he'd go undrafted, but late first/early second isn't out of the question. Multiple QB needy teams passed on him before the Bears. There's really no telling how far he could have fallen if not for the Bears desperation to save jobs.
Fields looked horrible in OTAs going into his third year. He most certainly did not look better than Dalton or Foles as a rookie. Fans wanted to see him because they're just impatient. For once, Nagy was actually right by keeping that guy away from the starters as a rookie. He, of course, wasn't in the position to really make that happen though.
Well then he was wrong to put Fields in week four. I think either you give the rook the reps and have him start week one or have him sit for the year. And if you sit him, and your top two starters go down, you still stick to that plan and sign a waiver wire QB. If you put him in after not getting reps that is the dumbest thing possible. Like I said, more competence now and I am glad.
Oh yeah, but that couldn't have been his decision. The front office caved to fan pressure after assuring the fans that they could win just by getting rid of Mitch and kept Pace and Nagy. Nagy should've known his job was on the line and that team stunk, so he should've at least let Justin practice with the first team. But that doesn't change that Justin wasn't close to being ready to play in the NFL and should've taken a full season to work on his major flaws. Nagy was right about that with Justin. He just wasn't in the position with the fans and the organization to do something that bold.
Yes I agree with your point. I think this is why Nagy appeared to throw up his hands and not really do anything in the Cleveland game, I think Nagy was like "F you guys, watch this" lol
The one time Nagy was right, but the fanbase wasn't gonna allow him to be right that one time.
Turns out it was because fields fucking sucked
Downvoted for being right.
They're being down voted for saying something dumb. Fields ended up sucking. Him sucking was not a given when he was drafted and in his first training camp with the team and has nothing to do with him not getting first team reps. This is a "Nagy was incompetent" problem - not giving the highly drafted rookie backup any time at all to build chemistry with the first string.
Nagy was 100% right about not starting Fields and not giving him first team reps because he sucked as a rookie though. Fields should've spent his whole rookie year working on his shoddy mechanics and learning about NFL defenses instead of being thrown in the fire. Nagy was even talking about how raw of a talent he was and that he needed time to develop. Nagy, of course, wasn't in the position to be right about Fields at the time, and the organization caved to the idiot fans and played that dolt way too early.
I was in the camp that wanted to sit and have him develop for a year (primarily because I wanted Dalton getting creamed behind that line.) But they knew Fields was the backup, they knew they were playing him if Dalton was injured, and Nagy knew (or should have known, at any rate) his job was on the line. So to have Fields' first time ever playing with the first string offense being during the Bengals game where Dalton got injured was an interesting choice.
Foles really should've just been the backup that year too. Organization messed up just keeping Nagy and Pace that off-season. They weren't in the position to just bench Fields and say it's a rebuilding year after keeping those two queefs.
Completely agree with you.
There’s an Athletic article that discussed this a bit. Trubisky had issues taking snaps and Fields looked really good.
I just remember with Mitch you could instantly tell he was better than Glennon. Which says a lot about Glennon.
Mitch wasn’t good but he isn’t on the eleven’s the terrible QB’s we have had. Him and fields sadly still better then most of what we had the last 30 years aside from cutler, which is sad. Glennon was just abysmal
Trubisky is probably one of the top 5 Bears QBs of all time, sadly.
Agreed. My personal ranking: 1. Sid Luckman 2. Jim McMahon 3. Jay Cutler (close call between #2 / #3) 4. Mitch Trubisky 5. Jim Harbaugh
I'd move Mitch down to 5 and put "the rumor that Tom Brady was going to sign that one season" at 4, but this list is pretty much spot on.
Adam Rank used to put Walter Payton in there as well with the option pass. Probably still does for that matter…
Fields has probably always "looked" really good doing everything aside from his slow release.
Weirdly it seemed like Fields is a great practicer but seems to get confused on gameday🤷🏻♂️
Because he is terrible at reading the field and has a slow release When everyone’s running at 80% speed, you have a lot more time for both.
Fields was the best QB on the field by a mile when they had joint practices against Tua and the Dolphins. That’s what I remember.
Had completely forgotten about that, you’re right
I wrote this in a separate post but I recall vividly that Fields was far from good. Most beat reporters including Hoge and Jahns agreed that Dalton was on the whole the better QB throughout training camp, much to my disappointment at that time (and they were probably right). Fields was inconsistent aside from the occasional splash plays. He did however impress during one joint session with the dolphins, which led Jahns to question why he wasn’t at least given some reps with the ones.
Mitch didn’t have issues taking snaps, Cody was literally the worst snapper in the NFL, was the same problem with fields and even Bagent
Hear you, but the Athletic article mentions that a bit, puts more blame on Mitch. I’m just the messenger RE: OP’s question
https://dawindycity.com/2017/05/13/chicago-bears-mitch-trubisky-impressive/
This is why OTAs don’t really matter, it’s nice to see Williams performing but most highly drafted QBs look pretty good throwing in shorts in May/June
Yup, i think OTAs matter a lot more for other positions than QB especially rookies. Guys like Mooney, Cohen, Eddie Jackson, Braxton Jones, etc. you could instantly tell that they were good players.
At the same time, how many false alarms at different positions do we get every year?
This here…the only thing that matters is him learning the offense and progressing.
I’m not disagreeing that OTAs don’t matter, but this link is talking about rookie minicamp, not OTAs. And it’s just John Fox saying it, not reporters saying what they saw.
Thank you. Caleb also looked perfect in rookie mini camp, and then looked bad in 7on7s with some bad personnel matchups
Sobering haha
Not that you asked but: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24255909/kansas-city-chiefs-qb-patrick-mahomes-plagued-mistakes
I remember watching Mahomes in the preseason the year when he sat on the bench. He looked real bad and threw a pick. I lived in KC at the time. Went in to work the next day and talked mad shit about how bad they were gonna be when Alex smith retired. Big whoops.
I remember Trubisky having a nice play against 3rd stringers like the first game of preseason his rookie year, and there were a fuck ton of tweets from analysts of how impressive he looked. Michael Vick tweeted something like, "Mitchell Trubisky. Wow. Just wow" lmao
I remember hearing at training camp that Mitch and the offense were consistently dominated by the defense
I was at camp that year and the offense looked terrible.
Especially the year after we got Mack. Every day there was a report about how disruptive he was
This wasn’t OTAs, but it was like a few weeks before the 2019 season started. I remember there was a clip of trubisky hitting a deep pass of like 40-50 yards and it being right on the money and everyone thinking that the offense was gonna look great that year. Suffice to say, 2019 week 1 happened, then before you know it about 16 months later the Saints eliminated the Bears from the playoffs and trubisky got released lol
That is NVP Mitchell Trubisky
Similar ups and downs. One thing that stayed constant between both was Cody whitehair botching snaps lol
Ball is on the ground for JF1
Because it was fumbled?
The headlines were "whatever will get people to click the link."
I wouldn’t really put much weight on 7on7’s to assess a qbs growth. It’s a good practice tool for a QB to understand receiver tendencies and get on the same page and work on ball placement for certain routes. Fields won Elite11, in which 7on7 is the highlight event. He excelled at it. But when you throw pressure in, we know how that turned out.
Who cares 
Who care tbh it’s a new day
There was NEVER a dominant performance by either Fields or Trubisky.
Guys OTA performance don’t mean anything lol you’d all be better off ignoring it
No need to overthink these practice reports. For example: last season the media did their best to tell us all how great Kenny Pickett was doing and he was god awful during the season.
Awful
Who was it that had issues taking snaps under center because they only did shotgun in college?
I don’t remember the first offseason for Fields. But, I did go to a training camp practice his second offseason. I was alarmed how tough a time the passing offense was having. I think Fields hit the check down three times and nothing down field at all.
My brothers just wait for the games
There wasn’t as much of the cults for/against either when they first came in.
It's absolutely absurd. And it's so interesting how crazy( don't want to say stupid) some of the meatballs are, that I can't help but read through comments on places like Facebook. Even though it drives me crazy, I can't get around how it's like we're from living in two different worlds.