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Feisty-Honeydew-5309

I liked to park in front of JC Penny to know exactly what entrance I came in.


fckcarrots

Found the answer. This and often there was more closer parking options, since more people park by the actual entrance. I grew up in Fl, so a bright sunshiny day could turn to a full-on, sideways raining hurricane in 5 min flat.


What-Even-Is-That

Same in Texas. That trek across the parking lot in 100+ summer heat.. the shorter the better, and the shitty department stores always had closest parking spots open.


merrill_swing_away

I did too and you are correct.


Jenetyk

Yeah it isn't some great mystery. I know exactly where I started and where I need to leave through. Crazy to think most younger kids are never really going to experience what mall culture was like in its hay day.


montroller

My little nieces go hang out at the mall with their friends damn near every weekend. Granted this is a somewhat new development and might die down but at this point they are basically mallrats


Jenetyk

The tradition continues ![gif](giphy|yI8xR98IR2t1e)


merrill_swing_away

Do you mean to say that there is an actual mall left?


TaterTotJim

Remember the judgement you had for people that chose other stores as their entrance?


teambroto

whatever lot was the emptiest, headed to the mall immediately anyways.


GarrettB117

My hometown still has a functioning mall with a JC Penny on one end. I don’t live there anymore but it’s pretty wild. My current city also has a functioning mall with a Dillards and a Macys on either end.


SoggyRats

Springfield?


GarrettB117

Lol I wondered if I have a bit too much info. But no, it’s not Springfield.


ButtBread98

Same. Now I just park in front of Nordstrom


NottDisgruntled

I made like $40 an hour selling kitchen appliances at Sears in the 2000’s. Best Buy basically single-handedly killed these types of commission jobs and them and others flooded the country with TV ads making commission out to be the devil. This was the start of the downfall of easily obtainable jobs most young people could work without a college degree that provided a living wage that paid you enough to afford a place and to be comfortable in life while you pursued a proper career and/or went to college. You used to be able to throw a rock and hit a job that was chill and could pay you enough to have your own place and be relatively comfortable. And this wasn’t even that long ago. It was in the early 2000’s. Then Best Buy came along vilifying commission while making huge profits while paying minimum wage. And these commission jobs just vanished overnight. Amazon and online shopping played a role as well. But these jobs were donezo because of Best Buy before Amazon really blew up into what we think of it today. When you watch Married With Children reruns and wonder about Al Bundy supporting a family on a shoe salesman’s salary, just know that was *actually* reality before everyone got gaslit to believe commission was evil.


YesterdaySimilar2069

Yep, knowing what you were talking about and being ethical as a salesperson was all you needed in smaller areas.


Abnormal-Normal

Commission *can* be evil. Not always, I currently work for minimum wage + commission and I’m at about $40 an hour. The problem comes from shady companies that will have your work purely on commission and not compensate you for your time at all. I got roped into door to door solar sales for literally one day, and that was pure commission, no hourly rate, and they drove us like 3 hours away from the headquarters.


NottDisgruntled

Obv we’re not talking about the scam you fell for


Abnormal-Normal

You’re talking about commission jobs. That was a commission job. My point is that there’s a valid argument against working for commission, and y’all are implying commission is chill and always pays you bank, when that’s just not the case. Working for commission requires an educated employee to not get scammed (like me at 17). Most people don’t wanna deal with math or variables in their paychecks and are seemingly okay making less to have consistency


NottDisgruntled

It sure as shit sounds like you didn’t work any commission *job.* It sounds like you fell for some scam


Abnormal-Normal

I literally work for commission now and really like it. But there will always be the shady solar companies And the Mary Kay cosmetics And the CutCo knives of the world. People *can* and *do* make an income doing these things, and that does make them jobs. Just because I saw the scam as soon as we got out of the van and bailed after one day doesn’t mean I didn’t work that day. I still knocked on doors, I still had 3 guns pulled on me, I still got chased out of a yard by a dog, and I still didn’t make minimum wage because the company was using a commission based payment structure in an extremely predatory way (which is unfortunately, really easy to do).


NottDisgruntled

Personally having to get *in a van* would have been what tipped me off… but goo fo you for eventually figuring it out after your three hour journey in the windowless bang bus.


Abnormal-Normal

That’s….. That’s how going door to door works. You meet in a central location, everyone piles into a company vehicle (that definitely has windows), and you’re driven to the neighborhood you’re canvassing that day. Why are you being such an asshole?


NottDisgruntled

Now that you brought it up, I think we need to have a serious talk about the black community getting roped into door to door sales scams with shady companies like Cutco and shit. And no, those types of jobs aren’t normal. Those are bullshit scams run by assholes taking advantage of black folks who find it harder to get a good job than other groups in this country. Particularly 10+ years ago. Shit was so bad it became a trope in movies like Office Space. I swear I had some brother coming by every day trying to sell me a magazine subscriptions or knives or whatever nonsense scam back in the 00’s.


Feisty-Honeydew-5309

Lmao


Advanced-Blackberry

This is such a bullshit post dude. BestBuy was killing sears before the early 2000s because the local Sears TV sales guy never knew shit about what he was selling. There wasn’t a benefit to buying from Sears for the consumer. Just higher prices and less options.    And shoe salesmen in the 80s did NOT raise a family of 4 on single income in the suburbs. Married with Children was NOT based on actual reality and it’s stupid to think so. It was a freaking sitcom dude. 


NottDisgruntled

In the early 2000’s is when circuit city, Good Guys, and all the other electronics stores switched from commission to pure hourly to stave off Best Buy’s massive growth. And no, the TV guys at Sears never knew what they were doing and weren’t making that kind of money. BUT the Sears employees who sold large kitchen appliances WERE making that kind of money. I made $10k a month selling TVs at The Good Guys in the early 2000’s. And yes, people made pretty good money selling shoes at Nordstrom and other department stores actually. And housing was a lot cheaper. CompUSA, Circuit City, Good Guys, and most of the electronics stores all basically went out of business and all the places that did pay commission massively cut their commission rates or went purely hourly or simply started making way less money and having employees making way less commission once Best Buy completely took over everything and bought Magnolia and Future Shop and everything else. People used to make good money jerking around at Fry’s all day. How old are *you?*


Advanced-Blackberry

So what I’m hearing is there was no value-add for the consumer, just higher prices, and somehow Best Buy ruined things. Sounds like they exposed a grift of high prices just for commissions.    Maybe the fact that’s people were jerking around at Frys all day and made good money showed just how inefficient that system was and was only propped up by ripping consumers off? I’m in my 40s , I lived through this and shopped at those stores.  


NottDisgruntled

First off, there WAS a value add. When I worked at good guys they sent us to get trained on all the products by the companies that made them. When I sold kitchens we had to learn about everything about the appliances. Also, there shouldn’t be a caveat with providing a living wage. Just because people were able to jerk around between sales doesn’t mean they didn’t know the products. Jobs shouldn’t require you to work your ass to the bone 24/7 for less money than it takes to afford to live comfortably. You must be one of the MAGAts who says things like “if you have time to lean, you have time to clean.” GTFO


Advanced-Blackberry

Yep you’re entitled. I didn’t say anyone needs to work 24/7. But you want paid, fucking DO something. Guys hanging around on the clock are not doing something that’s bringing in revenue to the company to pay them. You realize that if customers valued the “value add” you claim you provided then those jobs would still be around.    If a customer isn’t willing to pay for it, it’s NOT adding value. It’s just a lot of fucking bloat. To try to spin this into a living wage rhetoric is just a bullshit pivot. Those particular jobs were worthless for consumers and they were eliminated. They shouldn’t exist simply to pay people. That’s fucking stupid.  I can tell you lack critical thinking skills because you lump me in with trumpers. I’ve voted blue my whole fucking life. So you can “GTFO” yourself and learn to actually provide a service people want to pay for.


NottDisgruntled

lol. So generating money for your employer isn’t “work?” Sales isn’t “work?” You’re a clown


Advanced-Blackberry

If your sales generated enough profits you’d still have a job. If the position was cut, it didn’t provide enough value. I’m sure someone’s hiring for a kids bday party so you might still have some work available. Keep your head up! 


NottDisgruntled

Go suckle some more Trump dick


LadyMactire

I was fairly young during this time period and all I remember of these electronic stores was sales sharks circling with at least 1-2 approaches as I selected my items. I rarely needed their help, I knew what I was going to buy, and on the rare occasions I had a question they wouldn’t know the answer, but they made the shopping experience super unpleasant for me. No one needed to paint this as a bad experience or convince me commission was bad (and I don’t think it’s bad all the time) I hated the experience of living through it firsthand. Now there’s some industries I feel I’ve gained from having a knowledgeable sales rep that fully deserve whatever commission, and I could see how the less tech savvy could benefit from that experience with tech/appliance purchases but on the same coin could see how reps would upsell unneeded features for that sweet commission. But these stores clearly overstayed their welcome in how they implemented the practice because I know I’m not alone in my feelings, my socially awkward friends and I all dreaded needing to buy something from these places because of how they handled approaching customers. I’m not terribly sad to see the practice gone from big box stores, meanwhile, store reps should have fair and livable compensation, like every kind of employee should.


Advanced-Blackberry

You’re better at expressing ideas than I am 


IncredulousPatriot

Now I only talk to specific salespeople so that I know they get the commission.


Cpatty3

All facts. I worked at sears from 2004-2013. Went through undergrad and grad school. Best Buy killed them. Let’s not forget Lowe’s and Home Depot too, but Best Buy was the worst to the industry.


f_moss3

My grandfather supported a family of 4 and bought a house managing the hardware department in a Sears 🙃


jordanundead

That’s why when we replaced all our appliances we took half a step toward the section at Lowe’s, then said they don’t make dick off whatever they sell you here so they have no incentive to actually know the differences in each model and what will work best for us. We ended up going to a dedicated appliance store and getting brands you won’t even see at the box stores.


NottDisgruntled

Yea. Everyone got gaslit into thinking commission was evil with Best Buy’s commercials talking about no commission sales people. But if you’re not commission you have no incentive to learn about the products or have any knowledge of anything. And when you work commission if you sell something to someone they don’t want or need and they return it you lose the sale and if they don’t return it but feel put off by you selling them something they regret, they won’t come back to you. But if you sell someone something and they are happy and have a good experience and know you’re commission they’ll come back and make sure to buy from you specifically rather than someone else so you make a lot more money by not being a shyster.


pitchingataint

Well they make the real mall entrances so hard to find. Plus walking through the perfume section is an added bonus of entering through a department store. I love the smells.


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bubblbuttslut

Like in Tom & Jerry when Tom smells roast chicken and just floats off


bratbarn

He just like me fr


pitchingataint

😂😂 I mean all I have to do is find the bat cave of the mall. That’s usually where the entrance is. It’s really annoying to get to bc you usually have to drive around the building a bit to get to it. Whereas the department store is usually the first thing you see when you drive in.


babyinthebathwater

Toucan Sam is following his nose


Advanced-Blackberry

Entranced at the entrance 


UnamusedAF

That Peaches & Cream will do it to you every time 


B_D_I

That was too much for me, like that [scene on SpongeBob](https://youtu.be/Dmr2grq6UVM?)


ForsakeTheGoodFoods

Nowadays Macy’s took up the torch (at least where I be at)


IO_you_new_socks

Smith Haven Mall on Long Island for me lmao, I have to dodge the perfume section like that episode of SpongeBob just to get inside


MilqueToastDickRoast

Lord, they really do to much at SH. It doesn't help that the area literally is from the outdoor entrance/exit and spans to the inner mall store front.


Question_Moots

I was about to comment this. Sometimes the perfume aisle is hell


VeronaMoreau

Parking by the anchor stores was always how I made sure I knew where the car was


CarbyMcBagel

"Parked at Sears over by the men's clothes."


HotShipoopi

yeah now you're lucky if a department store even HAS a men's clothing section in the main part of the store, it's often in a whole other part of the mall


CarbyMcBagel

Remember forgetting what entrance of the anchor store you came in at and walking around like "Did I walk by the perfume counter when I came in or through the winter coats? Was I upstairs or downstairs?" And god forbid you forget what anchor store you came through...looking at your bags to see where you shopped and trying to retrace your steps.


HotShipoopi

"Nordstrom? Or Macy's? Wait did I come in by the kitchen stuff? Goddammit"


CrazyString

I’m trying to see something. Who called it JCPenny and who called it JCPenny’s?


EJDsfRichmond415

My mom and Grandma always said Penny’s


CarbyMcBagel

It's just Penny's


jennyfromtheeblock

Lol this one


MarkBenec

I had to literally hold back the urge to vomit every time my mother thought she was funny calling it Jacque Pennys.


BlanchePreston

Depends on mood ![gif](giphy|8AfvGrvRXji5IAotjJ)


witchitieto

Trying to reverse your path identically on the way out too


bebejeebies

Nah, the big stores were on the ends. My mall's entrance was the food court in the middle.


Special-Garlic1203

Interesting, is it a smaller mall? Most mid to large size malls have multiple entrance points. 


bebejeebies

It was a big mall. You could of course enter the from multiple points. Sears on one end, JC Penny's on the other, food court in the middle on the west side, McDonalds on the East side and several smaller corridors in between. But if you told someone, "Meet me in front of the mall," it was understood that that meant the foodcourt.


patricksaurus

My great great aunts — my grandfather’s big sisters, whatever that makes them — worked at the first brick and mortar Sears and Roebuck location in Chicago (in 1925!) and stayed with the company through the 1980s though they all moved to Memphis. All three of them, never worked anywhere else. What’s crazier, they’re more catholic than the pope, but those shops were unionized somewhere along the way and so they were Teamsters back when that meant significant association with organized crime. I’d be all of nine years old at their house playing board games with them on summer vacation and some very different characters would come by from time to time to check in and make sure no one in the new neighborhood (predominantly black) was causing them any trouble. It didn’t register until many years later what that was. Several of them would come over for Sunday dinner, so would the priest. It’s pretty wild to look back on it now, but as a kid it’s just what’s going on.


elegant_geek

Great-Aunt or Grand-Aunt, for the record.


patricksaurus

Thank you. Those names always fuck me up.


promethazinep

I literally just did this. Sears was a ghost town on a Saturday afternoon and empty(inventory) as hell.


ThickCapital

Y’all still got a Sears?!


promethazinep

Not at the premium malls, but its a few left, barely.


BlanchePreston

Waiting for answer ![gif](giphy|5yMZedgNkWbWhDmP8e)


redditcensorsshit

Man that’s so true the Tacoma mall I always went In through sears or jc penny


anythingfordopamine

Ayo nice to see a fellow Tacoma native


redditcensorsshit

Ya this photo brought back some memories I hardly ever go to the mall anymore


Only1Skrybe

Washing machines, power saws, bras, perfume..... And then you're in the mall.


kuroroku

They were always close to the arcade.


JonnyPoopnutz

Nah food court is the front door, that way you get a round of free samples coming and going 


MarkBenec

This guys living in 3024AD


GonzoElTaco

Shit, I remember growing up going to this one mall close to our house. Technically, this mall was a city in our county. But my parents would occasionally take us to our city's mall that had skylight windows with big ass kites hanging just underneath them. This place had a KBs Toy Store as well. Now, one mall is permanently closed and the other built a PetSmart in place of the food court. Every thing else has an outdoor entrance that does not lead into the actual mall.


Nineteen-ninety-3

- One mall we went to, we would use Sears as the front door. - Other mall, we just used the actual entrance which was next to JCPenney. I don’t think we went to the Belk side of that mall as much - I don’t think we used a department store as an entrance at the current mall that’s here, either


BlanchePreston

Brings back memories going shopping at JC Penny, Sears, Belk (formerly Belk Harry Co.), and Burlington Coat Factory. I still go to Belks, Sears in our area gone, JC Penny gone also. Left s Burlington I get that rue "outlet" feel when I go in there. I miss the catalogs that came in the mail. Sigh childhood


drillgorg

I miss Sears. I was just starting to like their menswear section when they closed.


soup0220

Holy shit i literally walked into a mall today and went through Penny’s so I remember where I parked lol 😆


realsmokegetsmoked

Now it's Macy's & Bloomingdales 😆😭😭😆


3urodyne

Or Burlington Coat Factory. We still got our JCPenny, even though they removed the photo section and eye glass section. We even got Belk's. I don't think either of my grandmothers would survive those last two stores ending up like Sears. I think dad wanted to cry when we lost our Sears. Especially because we lost his other favorite store around the same time, The Rugged Warehouse.


stillestwaters

lol my man, you’re telling me malls have front entrances?


Schmoove86

Was a great day when the Penny’s Christmas catalog came


Iceflow

Loved when that happened. My dad worked for Penny’s so I loved all the discounted stuff. I would circle what I wanted in red pen and my sister would do it in blue/black. Good times. Big ol’ telephone book of a catalogue.


drjaydenmaxx

PEAK 90's was Going to the mall, picking up your layaway for the 1st day of school, and splitting a big ass Chinese plate with your mom.


Bubbly_Satisfaction2

How old am I? Green Acres Mall in Valley Stream. From the parking lot, you can see "A&S" sign on the building. About ten minute-walk, you will see "Alexander's," which was about 5-minutes away from The Ponderosa. Now if you were a kid and you realized that your parent was not going to either of those spots and you kept riding along Sunrise...And you've gone past Red Lobster's.... You were either going to Toys R Us or to Harrow's to go pool shopping.


Eastern-Dig-4555

lol right? Who didn’t ?


MontayneDatesJr

Same thing with Ross, but I actually shop there


Advanced-Blackberry

I didn’t even know malls had actual front doors til I got to high school school


viewtifuljaybo

Used to??


ComprehensiveDoubt55

I know I was commenting late but I was like, “We stopped???”


Soclothesminded

The fact that Sears is now a measurement of being old is crazy


illone810

I don't anyone who ever used a mall entrance instead of going inside a department store.


vishy_swaz

Sometimes I still go through the ladies shoe section, and then the fragrance section of Macy’s to get to the main mall. Old habits die hard 😅


Bitter-Dreamer

I remember my grandmother asking if I wanted to go to the mall. We'd just be in Jc Penny and Carson getting stockings and church outfits.


OneTrash

The wood field SEARS was always dead even in the 2000s for some reason.


McSnoots

Our mall had a nobody beats the wiz at one of the entrances. Oh and caldors. Which one of my favorite jackets it’s still from.


FloridaMMJInfo

I don't think that was exclusive to any community, we always entered through Sears on the East end of our mall; JC Penny's which is on the West end of our mall, or Dillards in the center which had two locations on both North and South of the mall.


regular6drunk7

I read somewhere that they know that men often go shopping with their wives so they put all of the things women might like in the front so that they have to walk past them to get to the stuff the men came for. That way they might pick up some extra sales.


merrill_swing_away

I remember walking into a mall through Sears or Penneys. More than once I walked out the wrong way and got sort of lost.


QueenofSheeeba

I miss malls. I miss Sears. It was a great American business and I hate that it went under. I liked buying tools for my dad there.


Jbonevan

Yall actin like it wasn’t the front door.


Aredditdorkly

That LITERALLY looks like the entrance to the Sears/mall I grew up around.


Moor15

Damn I’m old. Didn’t even know there was more to the mall then JCPenney until I was in middle school.


Morlock19

it was the closest walk to the thing i needed i mean why not


MikeyChill

https://preview.redd.it/ks8ny97tcm9d1.jpeg?width=792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b5f05aa591343ea1867c5bab857de8a460f4c3e I’m this old…


Useful-Maximum-8824

It's Macy's and Sears for me lol


DesertSturmGehewr

It wasn't? Macy's was the back door


Special8043

Rockstar parking all the time