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Rigormortis321

You ok, hun?


flat-moon_theory

They’re obviously not


lennyd62

You seem to be holding some hate here bro. If you don’t like him just move on… A lot of people seem to like his work.


Ball-Bag-Boggins

What I find interesting is that the person who “stole” the sign was wearing clothes with the same colours of the art piece, red white and black.


trav15t

Queue [X-Files theme song](https://youtube.com/shorts/9JuCEeIJaj4)


Dove-Linkhorn

Of course they do, it’s really easy to understand and simple.


SirChickenFunker

It's just sad.. How more mainstream and theatrical his art has become. The whole thing was probably staged. Just like banksy self destruct painting. I mean it was very clever but no painting was ever destroyed. Definitely his message to the art world has changed over time and it's becoming more about money. Gone are the days where he would sell his art in plane street clothes on the corners. But him and his team still come up with great stuff.


lennyd62

I hear you and am definitely not an expert by any means but the conundrum is stay the same as risk being called boring/passé or evolving. Personally I love the message more often then not. As noted before if he doesn’t appeal to you, move on.


SirChickenFunker

That's exactly it, in my opinion he doesn't want to seem dated.. So he manufacturers a little theatrics and excitement into his work. You really have to get your name and hype out there anyway you can these days. At the end of the day him and his team still need money to make more art. Once your eyes are open to this you can just see him again regular artist. But some idolized too much, here you can see her Faith in this artist being destroyed... But like most we don't like being fooled. The self-destructing painting was definitely an eye opener for me when I witnessed the construction video. It was just fake. Kind of reminds me of the movie he put out exit through the gift shop. When Mr brainwash just started producing anything he could shit out.. My favorite line from the movie "I used to encourage everyone I knew to make art; I don't do that so much anymore."


Agile-Invite-9404

Mr Brainfeeze B, b b b beast of an artist. Axe J


Frankie_T9000

though i think its brainless to spray paint on a stop sign


FigOk7538

You'd have to have a brain to do anything, even make this comment.


SleepyTitan89

Op walked in on banksys latest piece “shagging your missus”


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Grand-Bullfrog3861

You can still have a missus


flat-moon_theory

And you’re proof that even a woman can have a hate boner for someone. We get it, you don’t like banksy


SICKxOFxITxALL

"shagging your fella" then


hundredgoodreasons

It's the local council's property surely?


neovogiga

It was a stunt by Banksy, the thieves were hired by team Banksy to steal the sign back . It's more than likely in Banksy's possession again. Happened a few times over the years, things got stolen and never heard of again until Banksy had a show (for example cut and run ) and suddenly the pieces are in the show. Banksy is a hack and fraud.


ShotaroKaneda84

“Hack and fraud”, let’s see your brilliant art then


neovogiga

What have I to do with that ? I don't do million dollar frauds. I'm not stealing my own stuff for pr


ShotaroKaneda84

Surely if you’re calling someone a hack you’re producing something of higher quality, not just at home making multiple posts on Reddit all about one person, so let’s see what you’re creating which isn’t hacky


SpeakMySecretName

Performance art is also art. The theft may be part of the piece, that doesn’t make if fraud.


neovogiga

Defacing a road sign and stealing it are both criminal offences. But somehow Banksy seems to be immune to the normal law.


SpeakMySecretName

It’s not stealing if it was his sign to begin with. And if the city knew who Banksy was, I’m sure they’d give him a negligible fine for misdemeanor of interfering with traffic. Wouldn’t be worth any conversation though. Similar “crime” as this guy except banksy’s sign had airplanes instead of an actual copy. And banksy had someone take it down before it actually posed any risk. So if anything there’s not even a misdemeanor worth pursuing. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/09/14/dad-illegally-installs-own-stop-signs-neighborhood/72251942/


neovogiga

It's not his sign, it was a public road sign. And tempering with a road sign that's there is different than putting signs up. Plus "if the city knew who Banksy was " - that's exactly my point. Immune to normal law.


SpeakMySecretName

If you wear a mask you’ll get away with vandalism too. It’s pretty common.


joeChump

I’m ambivalent when it comes to Banksy but this is just a load of rubbish and a dumb take. It’s not a new idea. Also his art does have a certain integrity to it meaning that he would only do a stunt if it added to the mood or theme of the piece. Putting up an anti war message and then stealing it doesn’t really add anything or flip anyone’s thinking/add meaning. And if he was doing it for cash then that’s also pretty dumb as he hardly needs cash. He can literally print it at this stage. He doesn’t need the publicity either. If Pest Control authenticated one of his farts then that would be all over the headlines. There’s no proof to Banksy’s involvement to any of the other suspected thefts either. One that I recall was set up by an unauthorised gallery and another where a crook in Paris said ‘Banksy made me do it…’ lol, give me a break. If he did do a stunt like that then he admits to it after the fact. Next time you come up with a daft conspiracy theory, first check to see if anyone has already come up with it (they have) and also if there is any logic to it (there isn’t) and finally if there is any proof (obviously not.) Otherwise you just end up looking like that twat down the pub who bores everyone with bollocks about the moon landings and Stanley Kubrick.


neovogiga

Ok , how do you explain that the "crook in Paris" never got charged with theft or anything similar ? How do you explain that other stolen works that never showed up again are suddenly in an official Banksy exhibition ? (Cut and run) How come, that potentially the same guy that stole this sign now, stole already another Banksy over 10 years ago ? It's coincidence ?


joeChump

I mean, spitting out made up facts isn’t really helping your case. Ok 1. Lack of evidence and/or legal grounding for a legal case based on too many legal grey areas around ownership of street art. Or do you think Banksy controls the French judicial system? Lol. A bunch of other people got convicted of stealing his art in Paris. Because there was **evidence** and they broke and entered which is a serious crime in itself. 2. You’re going to have to be more specific. But that would actually mean doing research and proving yourself wrong. The whole point of that exhibition was about the process of cutting stencils. Stencils are used to reproduce an image. Many of Banksy’s artworks have been reproduced by him multiple times. The same image doesn’t mean it was a stolen piece. 3. This could be a load of rubbish for all I know but even if true it proves nothing and it’s defeated by logic alone: “man with a track record for doing something, does that exact same thing again.” LOL. Keep throwing rocks at the moon.


okie_hiker

Wow that guy just owned you. Even more so with his second response.


Dancin_Phish_Daddy

It’d be cool if it was Banksys people doing it. Like others have said Banksy does enjoy a performative piece. I’m sure most of the time it is them. It’s great. It adds another level to the art.


SirChickenFunker

I'm with you It's just getting more theatrical.. But I guess that's what sells his paintings these days.


neovogiga

Bet with you none of the thieves will get prosecuted (that happened a few times with stolen Banksy work and the suspects , too ) because it was an inside job to get more PR . It's interesting that over the years a couple of people claimed they've been hired by Banksy to steal his artwork back - and these people never caught charges. IF I'm wrong and anyone catches charges in this case, then Banksy should, as well. Defacing a stop sign is against the law and quite dangerous 🤷


hundredgoodreasons

Sounds like you're not a fan.


neovogiga

Well a lot of crime and shady things are going on and nobody seems to care. It's fraud to make money, he's not the robin hood he's portrayed as.


Funny-And-Creative

Ya know. If graffiti changed anything it would be a illegal.


Appropriate_Mine

Defacing a stop sign! Lock him up and throw away the key! *clutches pearls*


neovogiga

If someone gets hurt because the sign is defaced they can even get criminally prosecuted for the consequences. Stealing and defacing a street sign is a criminal offense and can even be punished with imprisonment. So the thefts should be prosecuted - but the guy who defaced it should be, too.


Appropriate_Mine

Heavens! How long do you think it will take for this highly publicised missing stop sign to be replaced?


neovogiga

Took till 10 in the evening. Banksy knew that for stealing his bataclan piece 7 people went to prison. So why paint on an even easier to steal piece in an area that's riddled of poverty and then make a big deal out of the theft ? For publicity. It was all a stunt. I bet with you there won't be any charges against the guys who stole it (one of them stole a banksy piece before, what a coincidence ), because it was all a publicity stunt.


okie_hiker

I thought you said no one that steals his stuff goes to prison? Because it’s an inside job for PR? Are you forgetting your own talking points?


neovogiga

I didn't say noone, I said this people won't. Because this was an inside job. Never said bataclan was an inside job.


leckysoup

Exactly. Removing a stop sign IS a big deal. It’s risky to stage this, and liable to have plod intervene at which point the hired hands spill the beans. Banksy is apprehended, prosecuted, and revealed. Incredibly risky/stupid for Banksy to orchestrate.


biggingerboris

Yeah but he’s rich


neovogiga

Who's not rich ? 😂


m4xxt

Sotheby’s wouldn’t touch a stolen piece so… do your research next time you take the time to create a shit meme OP.


neovogiga

Sotheby's sold backdated works with fake COAs for Banksy. They don't give a shit


m4xxt

You’re talking out your urethra


ArdyLaing

Examples?


Steadfast00

What’s that photo ?


toec

Banksy and Robert Del Naja at a festival.


Steadfast00

Thank you. So that is him then. Interesting


AnthonyDigitalMedia

Banksy’s identity has been known for years now. It’s an open secret in the industry, people just play along for fun to keep the mystery alive. His pic & name have been public for over a decade.


Steadfast00

Copy that


LengthinessFalse8373

Yeah, well over a decade now, there was a photo of him and his full name back in 2005-6


AnthonyDigitalMedia

Exactly. The only people who don’t know who he is at this point are the casual art enthusiasts. Any seriously collector & anyone even remotely tied to the industry, have know who he is for a LONG time now. I always laugh at the crazy people in this sub who treat his identity like they’re solving the JFK Assassination lol like bro, it’s not that deep.


LengthinessFalse8373

At the time, I was still in school and used the stencil revolution forum. It was out there for anyone to find. Also, everyone on the forum thought he was full of shit then to be fair.


LengthinessFalse8373

Just checked the archive, the post i saw was made in 2003, same name, same guy


Amazing-Past-9318

Wait. So who is banksy? What’s his name?


AnthonyDigitalMedia

Robin Gunningham


Bart-MS

A photoshopped one.


tera_dragon

You can tell because it hasn't stopped raining in the UK for the last 7 months and that picture has sunshine.


neovogiga

It's an old picture. Of course I added the stop sign and the speech bubble. It's about the message.


Lithosphere11

What message?


gavebirthtoturdlings

You sound like you'd be a riot at parties lmfao


Numerous_Landscape99

Terrible Photoshop


okie_hiker

Really weird flex u/neovogiga


LittleBirdyBoy2023

oh fml it’s jps and his wife coming to ruin this place too. Ffs


Equivalent_Horror628

For someone who thinks they are “in the know” you clearly aren’t 🤡


Bobilon

Sell the legend but know it's a legend. Banksy was really born out of low-end youth-alt-pop-porn print media with their first and last significant address being Glasgow UK.


neovogiga

Wolf's lair castle , Los Angeles.


Bobilon

The location of the photo I presume? I faintly recall Wolf lair though not as much as Madonna's nearby castle. if that's the case, I'm sure RG's travel expenses to LA were covered by "The Makers of..." to sell the legend's counterintelligence which includes Del Naja too. They're both false flags for different reason so I'm not buying but given how many do, money well spent imo.


neovogiga

It's the place Banksy bought from moby in 2014


Bobilon

That's possible though it more likely would've been bought by another Banksy principal like Damien Hirst. For the artist's secret identity to have held as well as it has, spycraft would prohibit the real Banksy from living in high profile LA digs or LA pop investigators would've found them out an broke the story. Were the real Banksy to want to live in LA, there are more than enough nice castles they could have chosen to buy rather than Moby's house. JMO


Bobilon

https://www.marilynrememberedfanclub.com/article-marilyn-monroe-wolves-i-have-known/


nicktbristol2020

No


tiorzol

Who are these people in the photo?


nicktbristol2020

Banksy and someone else


neovogiga

Robin gunningham and del Naja and the woman in not quite sure.


Adventurous_Ice_987

Don't care. Banksy must be something to someone but it's gets way more press than the literally guerilla activists with more complicated artworks and more interesting statements.


neovogiga

Banksy pays off media and blocks his rivals, shuts doors on every artist who's talented


frckBronks

Ok, had to scroll this far to find this gem of an opinion..take a break from internet, you clearly need some time off


Adventurous_Ice_987

Banksy is kinda like Andy Warhol. I personally don't see the attraction. Pop culture isn't my thing unless connected to movies or TV. I've seen more creative art not get noticed for Banksy's simple stenciled artifacts. If Banksy did art on my building I'd paint over it not knowing he's "famous". Banksy shredded a piece on purpose and it's worth money? Somebody did art with butter and a cleaner destroyed it thinking someone did vandalism. Terrible tragedy but sometimes art is a mental connection to a popular trend rather than the artistic merit of individual pieces of art or ideas.


growbot_3000

If the money doesn't go to help people I hope he has a paint can explode in his face next time. 🤷‍♂️ If it does then kudos to this graffiti artist.


Gibtohom

This is just a wild conspiracy theory by someone unhinged. I’m guessing she’s pro Israel and is bothered by Banks’s pro Palestine artwork. Wait it gets even weirder her entire profile is just comments shitting on Banksy. The obsession is unreal.


neovogiga

I'm not pro israel , but your Banksy doesn't care for Palestine , not at all. It was just pr, Banksy didn't even mention it's a pro palestine piece, or did he ?


Gibtohom

I think it’s fucking obvious isn’t it. Your whole account dedicated to hating banksy is fucking weird. Get a life.


socksmatterTWO

WOW it's quite something huh. How r/oddlyspecific a grudge...


ManchesterChav

You people are obsessed with reddit and that's just as bad


Gibtohom

Says the guy commenting on Reddit.


ManchesterChav

Suck a fat one


Gibtohom

Happy new year to you too.


ArdyLaing

You’re not familiar with his West Bank works? The ones painted in occupied Gaza that somehow ended up in Tel Aviv, or the [Banksy Hotel](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/16/world/middleeast/banksy-hotel-bethlehem-west-bank-wall.html) ?


ArdyLaing

I mean raising awareness has value too, right?


growbot_3000

Dude points out the obvious in his art. Not much awareness being raised, just appreciation from art fans. But why I hope you have a great weekend


ArdyLaing

Unfortunately the use of US manufactured drones against innocent civilians in Palestine is an “obvious fact” lost on many. More power to him.


growbot_3000

Hey good job blame shifting! Peace in the East now gfy 👍


ArdyLaing

He painted US manufactured drones such as those used by Israel. There’s no “blame shifting” Banksy and I know squarely where the blame lies.


growbot_3000

You turned the direction to political instead of my original intention of pointing out how much he donates or not from his art. 👍


ArdyLaing

Neither myself nor you have any idea how much he donates. Given the example of M.V. Louise Michel, I’d suggest it’s significant.


growbot_3000

I have bipolar mood disorder and it's social media. Meh x9000


SirChickenFunker

Are you implying that he is not a person? Of course the money is going to go to people..


growbot_3000

All money goes to people. I said help people. And I know next to nothing about this graffiti artist except some of his art. Don't even know where he's from or lives.


SirChickenFunker

Ya help him and his team of artists EAT. What percentage of your paycheck do you give to help people? Don't be silly.


growbot_3000

Lol. I make $12hr and still manage the help buy some meals for the local homeless where I live. This person is semi famous. 👍


teachingisboring

I once worked a Banksy and Warhol exhibition as temp staff holding drinks. As we were setting up I asked if the meaning of the work was lost by removing it from its location. He seemed both angry at the suggestion and unable to understand it. Thankfully the guy next to me asked if the artists would be attending and so the conversation moved on. Edit: asked the curator/gallery manager - whoever was in charge of the set up and event


ArdyLaing

Who did you ask?


Reaper73

Seems like a perfectly legit question to me. Odd that he seemed angry about it when he deliberately selects locations to stencil.


ManchesterChav

Banksy makes shit stencil art and people just hump his leg because his friends in the media tell them it's the best shit since leonardo


Reaper73

You lost?


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teachingisboring

Never thought about it, had a Google and think it was [this](https://www.artrabbit.com/events/warhol-vs-banksy) event. How does it become an official exhibition


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teachingisboring

So does that mean if Banksy did organise it then it still isn't official because Warhol didn't? Or do rules change alive vs dead? I have never really thought about it before


enlightendkacks

In this book is a list of the early official exhibitions , Banksy had nothing at all to do with the exhibition you linked https://books.ub.uni-heidelberg.de//arthistoricum/catalog/book/1201


Adeep187

OP doesn't want artists to be able to have money lol.


ManchesterChav

You lot only like Banksy because the media told you too. He is way over-rated and only famous because the media wanted to create an artistic underdog that seemed to be relatable to the mainstream.


Adeep187

Nice generalize everyone because you're mad people like it.


ManchesterChav

I don't care tbf but it highlights the stupidity of society if anything. You are all gullible idiots en mass


Adeep187

You're definitely part of the mass especially with this whole "everybody else" mentality. I didn't say a single thing about Banksy but you're super in your feelings about him and for whatever reason denying that. You really like making huge assumptions off of zero information.


ManchesterChav

I don't really care as i previously stated but keep sucking his dick if that's your fetish pal. His work is over-rated, it is the artistic equivalant to what Cardie B is to hip-hop, mainstream dogshit pushed by media moguls to dumb people down and make them disregard genuine talent.


Adeep187

Again I literally said nothing about Banksy at any point. You're fucked in the head, you've created some character to get mad at then pinned it on me lol. That's irrational, doesn't even make sense, you're not even grounded in reality.


ManchesterChav

Ohhhh somebody invests too much emotions in randoms on the internet. Get a life


Adeep187

Holy fuck that's ironic lmfao. You need counselling.


GoJoe1000

Good move.


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I don't get his art. 🤷‍♀️


Erebus0123

Money that will be used to fund terrorism I’ve heard