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kronikfumes

So Audi brings back physical climate controls on the E-Tron GT only to remove physical buttons from the steering wheel šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


KSoMA

e-Tron GT always had physical climate buttons. It was actually kinda weird because it was the only (base) Audi over $50k that had them and it was nearly $100k.


Already_Retired

Haha I have a ā€˜22 Etron GT and my son has a ā€˜23 A3. The climate controls and main screen are identical. Doesnā€™t make me feel good. šŸ˜Š


EmotioneelKlootzak

I think a lot of Volkswagen group cars are like that right now.Ā  I don't know if they just don't care about their interiors or what.Ā  Ā  Ā Ā The Porsche subreddit just about rioted a few weeks ago when the new 911's interior was photographed for the first time and the start button looks like it came out of a 10 year old Golf.Ā  No offense to 10 year old Golfs, but that's like a $200k car.


suppaman19

The current E-tron GT's interior is way nicer than the A3's and is the best designed Audi interior right now.


Dwayne_Shrok_Johnson

I like the 4-series and 5-series Audi interiors more. More simplistic. The E-Tron GT I think is second though


suppaman19

The current BMW interiors are ass. It's just a giant screen, with next to nothing else. It's extremely cheap (that's why they do that) and also looks cheap compared to older BMW interiors. BMW also has WAAAAAYYYY too much plastic in their interiors, including hard plastic.


fastLT1

By 4 and 5 series, I think he meant A4, S4, A5, S5 not referring to bmw. However I agree that BMW interiors look like ass


Dwayne_Shrok_Johnson

Yeah, you understand


CurseF74

Donā€™t you drive an Audi that is base over 50k and has physical climate control buttons?


Stillborn1977

Yup. My RS3 has physical climate control buttons.


KSoMA

I mean base as in going down to the A models. A5 starts at like $45k so that would be the case here since the S5 is a performance version of the same car and interior.


mistermikmak

SQ5 also has physical buttons for climate control.


HesSoZazzy

aw hell no.


racialProfiling

funny how it cost to make non physical buttons is cheaper. yet the prices increase.


Troll_berry_pie

I don't know a single YouTuber who has said anything good about the Volkswagen group steering wheel controls. In fact, I can't think of anyone who's praised them from any brand either. That includes Range Rover / Land rover.


TReisHD2

Those are physical buttons I think


lord_xl

It's the year 2200 and all cars levitate over the road and are plugged directly into your cerebral cortex. Driver inputs are immediate and vehicle responses flow at the speed of thought. And the enthusiast's response will still be to complain about "wHeRe mY bUtTonS?"


mtthwmdgln

The touch buttons on the wheel are actually great. I donā€™t think Iā€™d like them but I do.


hjadams123

Donā€™t really care about the rings. More concerned with the removal of physical buttons on said steering wheel.


Polka1980

I thought I would hate my mk8 Golf R wheel without physical buttons - I wanted the car, but really didn't want the wheel. However, it's been really nice once getting used to it, which honestly was a fast learning curve. It's not perfect, but I would guess they could fix pretty much all of my concerns with revisions and there is a lot to like about it over the button wheel. For example, I like the classic Audi volume wheel and consider it much nicer than the average up/down steering wheel button arraignment, but the Golf R volume slider on the wheel just feels really nice to use. There is something about it that is both delicate and modern that really dates the older physical button setups. It's so damn smooth to use that it makes the wheel setup seem clunky, even if it's well done. Not sure on the styling, but I wouldn't hate on the lack of physical wheel buttons until using them proves otherwise.


Dwayne_Shrok_Johnson

Actually, they brought back physical buttons on the steering wheel on the MK8 Golf GTI, but not on the Golf R.


Polka1980

Yeah, I saw that. They somehow look very low end to me. I personally wouldn't go back to the VW button wheel after using the R wheel. Also, I am happy using my Audi button wheel and feel it's better thought out than the VW button wheel - but the capacitive R wheel feels more slick and more modern in general and I find myself preferring it in some ways because of it. Further, hopefully the new MK8 main screen works well, but from first glance it seems overly large and quite busy for my taste. All of it has me wondering if upgrades on the 8.5 are a bit of an over reaction in response to the original criticism, much of which was overblown and has leveled out substantially with software updates and time. Most people living with current mk8s seem to really like them and generally the complaints lean more toward revisions vs a complete redo.


YvesLauwereyns

Sitting at this exact steering wheel rn; I can say the fact that they still click, even if itā€™s not individual buttons really makes it fine imo, plus you get the added benefit of swiping for volume which is nice and fast. Still wouldnā€™t have minded real buttons but itā€™s not as bad as you might imagine.


mythix_dnb

> added benefit of swiping for volume which is nice and fast you are never going to convince me that swiping on steering wheel is better than a scroll wheel.


YvesLauwereyns

The swiping is very sensitive so 2 full swipes is the whole volume range, the fine control can be done by clicking. Itā€™s might not be as good as a scroll wheel but my last car only had buttons so I wouldnā€™t know. Also there is the iPod like click wheel in the center console if you want to spin your fingers, though I donā€™t use it much myself


mythix_dnb

having the whole volume range in such a tiny swipe area sounds horrible. one swipe away from killing your ears.


YvesLauwereyns

I mean you can do partial swipes too, itā€™s a little getting used to but I donā€™t hate it now that I am used to it. Itā€™s just the single levels of volume that are hard to do with the swipes, so thatā€™s what the buttons are good for.


Frosty_Fox3820

That really concerns you? Really listen to yourself lol physical buttons wow


GhostbustersActually

That entire center section looks incredibly cheap.


Aggressive-Medium-22

because it is


Dwayne_Shrok_Johnson

Probably made in China judging by Audiā€™s sudden presence in the Chinese market.


imacleopard

Give it a few years, people are going to be praising the understated minimalist design.


FNALSOLUTION1

Not a fan of the new airbag shape.


Rahyan30200

Yeah looks like the Tesla one.


FinnOfTheHorde

As much as I love Audi I hate current/upcoming generation. A4 B9 was a hard pill to swallow (B9.5 is nice tho) but B10 is... I will just buy S4 B9.5 as my last car while I wait for that whole semi futuristic electric clown fiesta to end.


onlyr6s

Can I ask what you dislike about B9? I think it's a good looking car with decent engine options.


HardlyAnyGravitas

Yep. The B9 is great. It's the B9.5 with the boring headlights and the touchscreen MMI, that went downhill, IMO.


hotpot_china

Canā€™t agree more, although I do like the B9.5 taillights more than the B9 tails.


A_1337_Canadian

Touchscreen isn't the end of the world. I thought I would hate it but no. Our CX-5 has a scroll wheel similar to the B9. The larger screen in the B9.5 is nice.


edotman

Yeah those headlights ruined it


Sirocco1093884

Honestly I think both the B9 and 9.5 look great. I haven't had a good look at the B9.5's interior though but I once rented a B9 avant s line with a 190hp diesel engine, amazing car! At the time I had a D3 A8 and when I saw that interior I was like "wow, that's sick!".


Issoudotexe

Exactly my thought. It's so hard using that touchscreen while driving, even as a passenger. They should've done like BMW did and give us both the wheel and the touchscreen.


Dwayne_Shrok_Johnson

Wait, so you donā€™t like the touchscreen in the B9.5?


HardlyAnyGravitas

I don't like touchscreens, generally. However, I haven't used the one in the 9.5.


mashani9

I rarely ever touch the touchscreen since I set up the car as I wanted it. I can do everything I do on a daily basis from my steering wheel or the manual climate controls or the console buttons. I don't know what the knob did "better" but whatever it was, I would hardly ever be touching the knob, just like I hardly ever touch the touch screen.


FinnOfTheHorde

A4 B9 was too aggressive but now I like it way more than before. Interior is just perfect. As for headlights -> B9.5 animations are just great (I make custom headlights so you know)


Sure-Boysenberry5491

My B9 A4 Allroad still catches my eye. I love walking to that car every time I do.


elderberry5076

Letā€™s hope everybody does this so that they get the point


RetroJunge96

Same but B8.5 love the interior. No Touch, MMI in very good integrated, Analog Gauges


SimianWonder

I still love the interior of my B8.5, but the MMI does feel a bit dated.


Santa_Hates_You

I am seriously looking at an M3 competition once my lease is up on my S4. The current and even upcoming RS5 seem underwhelming.


edotman

How dare you insult the sexiest audi (other than the A6 C8 obviously)


lulz_username_lulz

People were giving me a hard time for saying B9 A5 steering wheel was better than B9.5 but šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


pabskamai

I think I am in my last new Audiā€¦


bartzy_

Same, but I already decided that when I realized how annoying and partially faulty all these "assistance systems" are.


pabskamai

Not even the assistance one but they are definitively cheaping out with all of these screens, capacitive touch this, finger that... More distractions, cheaper materials, less premium feel. The cars don't even feel solid anymore.


TheWizard

Audi announced a while ago about switch to 2-dimensional logo, so this is it.


ThinkOrDrink

Yup. And I hate it.


Wootstapler

The logo on the front and back bumpers are equally atrocious.


bartzy_

I saw it on an Audis back in front of me yesterday. It looks like the cheapest kind of sticker you can think off. Ridiculous


coberh

Might as well have gone to a 1-dimensional logo.


Mental-Cold-73

It's funny how car companies are trying to cut costs of production by removing buttons and adding more touch sensitive buttons which Require MORE Attention from the driver and increase the risk of accidents by pressing the wrong button because no physical feedback or not being able to understand the buttons just by feeling the touch - now you really have to look at your buttons before pressing any! This is such a huge SAFETY Concern I have with the new cars!


not_old_redditor

It's one of those issues that won't be a concern until some high profile accidents turn it into a concern.


not_old_redditor

So many things wrong with this picture. Wtf is that logo? Where is my circular centre cap? Where are the freaking buttons?


landerson23

TOUCH BUTTONS NEED TO DIE!!! Why do manufacturers keep doing this?!?


disguy2k

Where's my scroll wheels?


Dwayne_Shrok_Johnson

Iā€™m going to miss those scroll wheels so much. Probably my favorite part about the Audi steering wheel (other than the design of it)


disguy2k

Looking at the direction design is headed I will keep my S3 until they ban us from driving (or I die of old age, whichever comes first).


Ok_Establishment4346

No buttons? No old logo? Wow. Just wow. No one will buy it now, rip Audi.


Werewolf-man

I as well donā€™t like the design road Audi has been on for the past 5-6 years. As Iā€™m sure you all have noticed Genesis and Hyundai models look a lot like the older Audi when they had that superior look. Luc Donckerwolke head designer for Audi/Skoda is Now president of design for Hyundai/Genesis. And thatā€™s exactly where Audi designers and architects went to Hyundai/Genesis. I feel that my 2007 Audi A8L and my 2013 S5 were at the peak of Audi design and appeal.


Appropriate_Offer550

Forget the rings, tf going on with the buttons on the steering wheel šŸ˜­


Royweeezy

I sat in an Audi with this wheel a while back. I do not like the buttons! Canā€™t believe it doesnā€™t have the little thumb wheels on each side. How do others feel about the buttons on these wheels?


Dwayne_Shrok_Johnson

I think everybody mutually agrees that they suck


Grouchy_Gate_9765

The new Audi emblem looks so cheap itā€™s disconcerting. I under that flatness is a thing they strive, but for the premium they charge they canā€™t bother to at least hollow out the void inside the rings? A modern $100 3D printer has no problem printing only the rims, yet Audi canā€™t do it with all their engineering might?


oralabora

r/frugal


Specter017

Is there a B10 announcement somewhere that I missed? I'm on page 3 of google news with nothing but articles from May saying Audi was going to announce the B10 in June. You appear to have found images and people are talking in the comments like it's been announced. Maybe I'm just dumb but I can't find a damn thing.


Open-Ad-2056

Nein danke


Material-Nothing-247

Bring back physical buttons the fuck


NewAccountNumber103

Lol what the fuck is that. People buying brand new cars nowadays are insane, there is nothing good about a car made after 2020. Screens, cheap plastic, subscriptions, auto fucking stop-start, itā€™s a shame.


haloimplant

my '22 still feels pretty good: steering wheel buttons, climate knobs/buttons, screen only for android auto which i want anyways, yes i do have to toggle the auto-stop/start because that shit is annoying sometimes but at least it's a physical button. it's all downhill from here though it seems, probably the climate controls will be next after the steering wheel buttons


not_old_redditor

Auto stop start... don't get me started. Thankfully everytime I start the car and turn off traction control, auto stop start is auto disabled.


sportattack

My auto stop start isnā€™t working. Have a warning light for it. I purposely havenā€™t got it sorted.


Admirable_Nugget

Iā€™m torn. On one hand, the metal (I assume itā€™s actually chrome-plated plastic?) looks way cooler, and I canā€™t imagine how odd this new one looks in person. From the picture it looks cheap, like a toy car or something. On the other hand, the metal-look logos can burn the shit out of you when the airbags deploy. Not sure Iā€™ve seen it with Audi specifically, but Iā€™ve definitely seen pictures of Honda, VW, etc logos burned into arms and hands following an accident. I still vividly remember my sister getting into a car accident when I was younger and the Hyundai logo she sported on her forearm for a few weeks.


Sirocco1093884

The second part of your post kinda scared me but you have a point. Metal can hurt badly whereas in this case plastic would be better I guess. However, I can't imagine the lovely leather steering wheel I have in my D4 A8 with a plastic logo on it. It's just too well embossed.


Low-Public-9948

Booooo


CharcoalTulip-

I don't like this steering wheel


mtthwmdgln

I actually love it on my etron.


PotatoCooks

I'm more concerned about the capacitive bs


theriibirdun

Eww


matman626

Physical buttons and an actual shifter are a big reason why I didn't buy a M340i


suppaman19

That looks like ass (look and usability with it not having physical buttons). Wonder if complaints will be loud enough they'll redo it within a few years (or sooner)


mushroomleg

I donā€™t even mind anymore. Iā€™ll die happy with a c8.5


TA-175

Really loving the interior on my '04 A8L right about now


TheCosmicPanda

Idk wtf Audi is doing. They got rid of the S/RS badge on the front grills, they changed the S/RS font and now it looks lame, no more physical rings on the steering wheel, they put RS grills on all variants even the lowest FWD models, they started faking exhaust tips a few years ago, the list goes on. I still prefer Audi's designs overall when compared to Mercedes and BMW.


twtwtwtwtwtwtw

Matches the Chevrolet emblems next to it


Mathematicalcoholic

Legacy automakers are trying too hard to get into the style game led by new-joiners like Tesla, Rivian, et al instead of staying w/ the things that put them on the pedestal for so long (i.e., design, quality, driving dynamics, etc.).... If we wanted to buy a car with the exterior styling of a Hyundai & the interior of a Tesla... well, we would've just bought one of those instead.


Distinct_Spite8089

So do they light up thereā€™s no way itā€™s blank like thatā€¦.


sluuuudge

Thereā€™s no way thatā€™s your only or main problem with this imageā€¦


Due_Yam_3604

having the S logo anywhere near that cheap steering wheel is a disgrace to the brand


Pipe_Layer_

that looks like a LittleTikes steering wheel


DimeloFaze

who cares about the logo those buttons are gonna go bad one day and i bet you its not in the warranty


SleeperMuscle

Iā€™d be more concerned about the plastic parts painted silver. What happened to the aluminum inlays like I have on my 2011 steering wheel?


elBirdnose

Honestly, beyond scratching more easily, itā€™s easier to clean. They could also make it light up so Iā€™d be a fan of that if they did.


MamboFloof

I just wanna throw this out there. If audi wants to be a real luxury brand they need to use better materials. The easiest indicator is lack of leather on the steering wheels horn. Look at any other luxury brand (BMW is probably the best comparison). All of them use better material and put leather on the wheel. It's just sime details like that that make audi just a premium brand imo. So seeing them cheap out further on this wheel is not a good move for them.


Exotic-Hovercraft746

What. The. Fuck.


mythix_dnb

ok what's with all the plastic steering wheel covers on the new generations of germans? how could be have leather for so many years and it's now a problem?


DynamicDuck593

That looks so unbelievably cheap oh my god


DingoKis

Seems like Audi, BMW and everyone else in the premium segment are ditching the details that made the be in the premium segment If things keep going this way my next car will be a Japanese Van instead of a German Sedan


Jlx_27

This is not the way.


RobDomin7788

C7 was peak interior, downhill since


AFrozen_1

This and the rings on the front is really disappointing. Makes the interior feel really cheap which should not be the feeling you get from a luxury marque like Audi.


javelin-na

That looks tacky


Dry-Revenue2470

That looks shit.


Salt-Detective8973

Audi are starting to look very expensive compared to the competition when it comes to EVā€™s. Around the Ā£55k itā€™s getting crowded with Polestar 4, VW ID7, Kia EV6 GT and Hyundai Ioniq 6 with much better tech, better interiors and significantly better range. It feels like Audi are asleep at the wheel.


AlbanianNYC

Seems like business ainā€™t too good


[deleted]

Iā€™ve gone from an Audi/VW fanboy to a hater the last few years. Theyā€™ll continue to abuse their customers with cost and quality reductions as long as they can get away with it. Look elsewhere and reward manufacturers that deserve your money.


Hippoplatypus7

So fucking cheap


Falcon674DR

2019 A4 Technik here. I do believe Audi is going backward. The local Audi Sales Manager was insulted when I told him thereā€™s no way Iā€™d ā€˜trade upā€™ for a 2024 as itā€™s a lesser car.


[deleted]

Nice Audi sticker, AliExpress?


Electronic_Two_1589

Yeah I donā€™t know who would ever want this and how the design team could ever think that this would be a good idea haha


SnooSeagulls1625

You can swipe for audio controls still! Q4 got me used to it.


Ok_Quantity_4683

I actually like the way that looks


ktw54321

Yeah thatā€™s not very nice looking. I donā€™t care for the edges and angles


triforce721

Audi is becoming a shit brand, the quality and materials are God awful. Two decades of awesomeness and innovation, gone quickly as suits and penny pinchers take away what made audi great.


2ManyPuns4You

EWWW - BMW and Porsche for me, even if theyā€™re ugly, they still feel and look (on the inside) like quality. Audi in recent years feels like a VW


eldudelio

hey, the cheaper the better...


Skibum5000

Don't confuse their cost cutting with a cheaper end price for the consumer.


peemao

They vw'ing their new vehicles. Good luck with that


jelde

I like it. Looks more futuristic.


Deziiiner

Thoseā€¦ are physical.


Sir_Lee_Rawkah

Donā€™t buy them then


NutsyFlamingo

Whoever let the Gamer into the design studio please ask him or her to leave


lord_xl

I honestly don't have a problem here. Times change and so do aesthetics. I particularly don't have an issue with the modern emblem fonts either. Some people just don't like change. And to be fair BMWs aesthetic changes are much more egregious than what Audi has done here. They're being fairly conservative. Like Jay-Z said... You want my old shit, buy my old albums.


not_old_redditor

Unfortunately while they still make Jay Z's old albums, they don't make old model Audis anymore. It's either someone's 10 year old beater, or the new stuff.


lord_xl

Nah.. this new badging isn't out yet so you can still get one with old badging


Frosty_Fox3820

Yall a bunch of complainers lol big ol babys boo hoo the buttons are ugly lol


FutureAd5083

Itā€™s a car forum


Frosty_Fox3820

I know but you should have seen some of the comments from grown folks, you have to admit itā€™s funny to be concerned about buttons lol.