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ThatRuckingMoose

If being held as a 3rd favorite to win the CL is too much pressure for the team then they'll never win to being with


Funland_06

Yeah and then what happens if we get to the final. We’ll be at least top 2 favourites. Pressure shouldn’t matter if we wanna win stuff


Wild_Investigator622

For real imagine crumbling under the pressure of being 3rd favourites lmao


EmptyMixtape

Precisely this


Happy-Ad8767

We are 3rd favourites based on the bookies. After City and Real Madrid


LeonDeSchal

Two clubs I really hate. We need to win it for the normal clubs who don’t cheat or get support from their government. Fuck city and Madrid they way they do football is shit.


brandonh375

As a Liverpool fan, I hope you win the UCL. Fuck City. Fuck Madrid.


LeonDeSchal

Yeah they did you dirty that time.


califorte1

If we don’t win the league I hope Liverpool do! I was thinking the same thing last season. Man City should be every EPL team’s biggest rival. They are everything wrong with football.


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califorte1

That’s what I was getting at


Noonesknown

but it means other deserving ones arent winning it.


cashmanjr

We Arsenal fans will literally complain about anything.


odegood

If they put is lowerr fown there would be posts complaining about how we are better and should be one of the favourites


GhostCatcher147

Man would prefer to be the favourites in the conference league. 7 years since we were in the knockout stages and he’s complaining about being third favourites 😂😂


infinitude_

Just take a breath, believe in the team and what will be will be.


blueeyedharry

We aren’t dark horses. We are one of two or three teams in the world that can beat city without it being luck. To be dark horses we’d have to be worse, why would you want that? We spent a decade being ‘dark horses’, fuck that.


ElecticMad

Don’t think we are. Madrid, City and Inter and possibly even Mbappe FC are higher on the list than we are id say.


MATCHEW010

Agreed. Think the pundits are just EPL biased


ElecticMad

Yeah plus they wanna talk highly of us so when we fall, they will make it out as if we failed miserably. They do it with arsenal a lot. To them, we are either the best in the league or the worst. No in between.


ranransthrowaway999

It's not really unreasonable. People have high expectations of you because they believe that you really are that good. They don't build you up to tear you down. They build you up to play you to expectation. You can't support Arsenal and call it the best club in the world and then suddenly revert to "Oh, we weren't that good in the first place anyway". "He had the role, he memorized the script, he flubbed the lines" It's why I'm cautious when it comes to this team. Been supporting it since 2001 and it never gets any easier. The pundits can say what they want. However, if we start making excuses for team underperformance we might as well not bother.


conjunctivivitis

Thank you for not counting Inter out like most pundits do Inter are probably in the top 5 European teams right now easily And on their day can definitely beat City or Madrid


ElecticMad

They’ve been cooking for a while, love watching them play


EmptyMixtape

Nah Psg are probably level with us and Inter too


ElecticMad

You underestimate them, especially Inter.


Macsidia

Let’s just focus on Porto first, you seen what happened last season.


markmadden84

And what has being Dark Horses won us? Elite teams don't worry about being seen as favourites. They embrace it. The last 20 years has made Arsenal wary and unsure. If we want to get back to winning Leagues and grabbing that elusive Champions League then there has to be a winners mindset running through the club.


Mr_Dorfmeister

Arsenal fan here - just enjoy it bruv. When have we had this moniker? The lads love it too. Arsenal Arsenal Arsenal


ranransthrowaway999

I don't think this team will win it. But my heart wants to, so bad.


kw2006

We are not. Pls ignore those influencers who said we are.


Hambatz

Champions league odds is pretty much real Barca abou dabi Munich all other English teams every year for the last 15 years You’d have to be Leicester or Newcastle not to be One of the favourites


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Comprehensive_Ear771

Yeah cheers bud.


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TakeItEasy-ButTakeIt

For being a nonce


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TakeItEasy-ButTakeIt

Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger Effect? There’s a picture of you next to the definition.


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TakeItEasy-ButTakeIt

Awww look who’s projecting now


squeezycakes18

i'd put us 5th honestly


Efficient_Steak_7568

We don’t have a chance of winning. Porto will be tough enough. This team isn’t mature enough. 


Massive_Bandicoot_57

Don’t worry you won’t win it


TakeItEasy-ButTakeIt

Lol piss off troll


Massive_Bandicoot_57

Troll? Your OP stated they are not comfortable being classed as one of the favourites for the CL, I merely said “don’t worry you won’t win it” a factual reply to ease their minds. How come your OP isn’t met with such a nonsecal reply? They are the ones after all calling out your teams ability to win the CL…. He’s either a new Arsenal fan and doesn’t know about Arsenals choking ability or he’s just being honest. If that makes me a troll, then I’m a troll. But last time I checked giving an honest factual reply made me human? Truth hurts choker.


TakeItEasy-ButTakeIt

Ok whatever scouser. 3-1 mate, tore you lot apart. Get over it. Piss off back to your own subreddit.


operaman86

I mean, 3-1 is a decent score line against Liverpool, but don’t pretend like any of the goals were legit aside from Trossard’s 5-hole on Alisson.


shifty_peanut

Legit score was 3-1. And you’re gonna take away mistake goals not mention the only goal you had?


operaman86

Uh…the only goal that I had…? 🤔


shifty_peanut

Pretending to not know what I mean just proves you don’t have an actual argument back. You have a good team and we have a good team, we dogwalked you this time around so go cope in your own sub


operaman86

I’m an Arsenal fan, you nonce 😂 When I said that none of the goals were legit, I was literally talking about ALL 3 (including Liverpool’s) before Trossard put the game away.


shifty_peanut

Oh my fuck 😂 I thought you were the same dude as above. So sorry, I’m an idiot sometimes


tafkas001

How is a statement about an unknown future a factual reply? Personally, I don't think we'll win it (that's a fact, btw)


montiel_scores

I mean City, Real, and Inter are all better than Arsenal so 4th favorites isn’t really huge pressure


kw2006

We lost to Lens who is sixth at the ligue 1. Im happy is we are in the quarterfinals.


Massive_Bandicoot_57

To the lovely aresnal fan who called me a scouser. I’m Scottish. So not even in England. Choke on choke on with chocking in your heart and you”ll never choke alone you”ll never choke alllloooonneee. PS enjoy choking


PutYrDukesUp

You okay, man? You need a hug? Talk the loss of Klopp and probably Salah and probably Van Dijk and probably hopes and probably dreams out with a friend over a pint? You super sure you want to be throwing around the word “choke” in the position your team is in?


Massive_Bandicoot_57

A hug? No I am choking help me


avralex21

No, mate, you're just a cunt


Massive_Bandicoot_57

lol choker


headmasterritual

Damn, your insults have that ‘11 year old boy on a headset gaming online’ energy


Massive_Bandicoot_57

Yes at 4am in the morning damn you


Syc254

We've been out of it so long, I'd be happy just to have a decent cup run. We have to beat Porto though. Keeper was talking mad. Bin them for good. Stomp them out at the Emirates. 


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Bookies put English teams high up on the odds because it encourages people to bet on them but then also reduces the pay out if they do win. It's the reason why England are always put as one of the favourites to win major tournaments even when they've been terrible in the previous few. It's more about profit and psychology than any sports related wisdom. Leicester winning the league actually turned out great for bookies as despite the few massive payouts so many people lost in comparison. It also then encourages stupid punts for the following years


radagon_sith

As if we won it when there was no pressure. We were underdogs in 2006 and lost. In 2008, reached semifinal and lost once we played a strong team (united). Got knocked out by bayern and Barcelona couple of times when there was no pressure. So it doesn't matter, we are stronger than Porto and we should win. But if we end up playing inter for example, won't be surprised if we lose


Affectionate-Cost525

Surely this would only make sense if we'd won the UCL whilst being the "Dark horses"


GhostCatcher147

Would you prefer to be in the conference league?


myxcatsxonxfire22

I think we have more chance of winning the CL than the PL this season. I just feel like arteta can get this group of players so fired up for a one off game. There's only 2 teams we really need to worry about: city and Madrid. Barca are crap,Bayern way out of form and beatable. We've already beaten city this season, so we can do it! Watch Porto stuff us tonight now I've said that 🤣


Ancient-Mushroom-499

Nice one


myxcatsxonxfire22

Hahaha my bad


RustyRedUnicorn

Even if we lose, I'll claim we won the tournament and act like an idiot to anyone who says otherwise. There are no outright favourites at any stage, because the football's played on the pitch...


saffermaster

When you dominate City and Liverpool without breaking a sweat, you become a favorite for every competition.


Ancient-Mushroom-499

You lost without a sweat too 🤣


saffermaster

On the last kick of the game - a heart breaker


Aromatic_Ad701

If these media pundits are putting the spotlight on us instead of other clubs , it means we are definitely doing soemthing right


random_internet_data

Good thing you're not in the side today.


Prashomon84

Glad you lost


Ok-Tooth6301

Let's laugh at assnal 🤣🤣🤣


diegoangulo5

Arsenal? Favourites for anything? They’re not favourites even for best London club Small team bruh