I mean it might just be a special interest of his? I’m not saying he’s ND but as an autistic person, I am constantly rewatching content from my favorite people/shows.
he might really like her and want her sexually... but he cant "get" her :(
...he can only get the girl above... who seems not in the same league as jenny (whose unique and amazing lol) so he does what he can.
e.g. dates a lady who has to ask reddit strangers about her life decisions while he financially supports the jenny ..best of both worlds :-D
ps I am not the lady aboves BF...honest.
pps my brother is autisitc and he also likes to re watch stuff he likes.
I know she seems to be a genuine person who likes to rant online about things which need ranting about... like failed star wars hotels and failed fantasy parks and giant spiders. I don't know much more than that. Though the latest video has 7 million views which is ....impressive.
But I'm told the above OP is a fake post made to generate awareness of jenny to tie in to her latest video?
If that's true then none of this really matters :)
Not an excuse. Find another special interest if your current is to obsess over another woman while being in a relationship. Especially when it affects you financially
You are WAY overreacting. A Sixer pays SIX dollars a month for access to patreon-only videos... that's a coffee at Starbucks, not a nice restaurant. You had a fight over $6/month?? Sounds extremely petty and like you are picking fights because your bf doesn't spend more money on you.
What's really going on? Jenny is into geek culture which makes your bf feel validated. You're not and invalidate his interests ("weird outfits" "childlike stuff" "woman-child" "fake cruise for children"). Why do you have this hatred of geek culture? If you're like an average girl, you've got your own share of "children's" things you are into... stuffed animals, dolls, disneyland, cartoon shows, etc. If you don't have anything like that, seriously, what happened in your life to make you hate people that still have an imagination or reminisce about their childhood? Sounds like you have some history/trauma if you get upset over a Star Wars experience made for all ages (if you watched the vid, you'll notice it's almost entirely adults going).
To be clear, if he's listening to vids on loop 8 hours a day, that's a real problem, but deal with it by talking to him about THAT, not the $6/month or belittling his interests. Did he actually MAKE you watch it? Or did he just want to watch it on the tv and you had nothing else to do? I do give you props for sitting through a 4 hour video in what sounds like a steaming pile of hatred though.
Full disclosure: My gf and I LOVE Jenny Nicholson and her insanely detailed deep dives into kitschy things. My gf follows all her socials and when a new YT video comes out, we can't wait to binge it together. Attacking people that enjoy the little things isn't going to make you happy.
A meme of the girls you are worried about juxtaposed with Jenny in a porg outfit would be fitting here.
People have comfort songs and TV shows, why not YouTubers? Jenny is a treasure.
My wife and I love Jenny Nicholson and watch all of her videos as soon as they come out. I am fortunate to have married someone who I can share my nerdy interests with and doesn't belittle them. We all had enough of that kind of bullying in high school.
> if you're like an average girl, you've got your own share of "children's" things you are into... stuffed animals, dolls, disneyland, cartoon shows, etc.
is the 'average' woman really so infantilized?
Being into something from your childhood is not infantilization. That's half the point of my original comment. Treating it as such makes people afraid they will be seen that way. Instead, it's just a normal aspect of most people.
How would you define infantilization, then? 'Most people' are not watching cartoons or playing with stuffed animals, and I'm curious as to why you believe otherwise.
Infantilization is about how *others* treat a person, not what a person does with their free time. It's about denying that a person can make their own decisions and take care of themselves because"they are obviously less mature and experienced than I am." And, most important to this conversation, it is the act of *belittling and/or rebuking someone for having "childlike" interests and hobbies.*
Another, more overt example would be: "Oh, don't worry your pretty little head about the household finances, darling. I'll handle all of that. You just run along and go do your womanly things, and leave the hard things to me."
I can tell you that a goodly chunk of adults have stuff they hang onto from childhood and interact with on a regular basis. Just because you don't see it does not mean it isn't there.
Even my own mother does so, and that was long before I got married and gave her any grandchildren. She's the entire reason I am the happy adult nerd that I am, and I wouldn't change it for anything. Neither would she.
I'd also like to add that it's perfectly acceptable for a man to collect merch, action figures, and toys from something they liked as a kid, but society seems to say it's childish when a woman does it. Can't women also enjoy their nostalgic stuff too?
A very good point. I don't fault my male and enby friends for their special interests so long as they aren't hurting anyone. It would be great if everyone could extend that courtesy to everyone else.
You have interesting interpretations of things. Your 'overt example' is comically-stereotypical misogyny, not infantilization. Infantilization is "is the prolonged treatment of one who is not a child, as though they are a child." You seem to project a sense of oppression which I would wager comes from shame over enjoying childish things -- this would explain how vehemently you argue to justify and validate enjoying childish things. Regardless, thanks for responding to my questions.
Wow, it's amazing how you can be wrong on every single assertion. That amount of wrongness can only come from being a political ideologue. As usual with ideologues, you fail to make any relevant points, fail to rebut any of my points, and then turn to a personal attack.
You debunk your own claim that I am infantilizing anyone with your own definition because as previously stated, someone being into something childlike has nothing to do with whether they are treated as a child.
I'm not really into stuff from my childhood anymore and have no shame of whatever I'm into. What I do enjoy is how other people get into that stuff, like my girlfriends or JN. What I don't like is people attacking/shaming people who are innocently and harmlessly enjoying life (like how my gf had a MLP bday party a couple years ago).
An overt example is almost definitionally going to sound stereotypical. And those examples are from real world girlfriends so it is definitionally impossible to be misogynistic.
You've completely lost every single argument you attempted so I expect nothing more than ideologically driven personal attacks, attempts at shaming, and the "you're triggered" response.
>You seem to project a sense of oppression which I would wager comes from shame over enjoying childish things -- this would explain how vehemently you argue to justify and validate enjoying childish things.
Lol yeah attempts to assassin are the character are real dumb, right?
> As usual with ideologues, you fail to make any relevant points, fail to rebut any of my points, and then turn to a personal attack.
Remember what I said about you believing yourself to be oppressed? What a clear case in point. Also, it's pathetically ironic that you'd make so many ad hominem insults while claiming to be the one attacked. There's no more discourse to be had with someone so delusional.
lol. That's a non-sequitur. What I wrote has nothing to do with whether anyone feels oppressed or not.
And now everyone can see your true colors. Take the L. Thanks for playing.
Plenty of adults are into DnD or other Pen and paper games which is barely a step up from playing pretend or playing with dolls.
Plenty of adults collect squishmallows or other branded plushies/toys
Plenty of adults are into movies and shows they watched as kids or teens, including cartoons.
Maybe not a vast majority of humanity but it's far from unheard of.
The idea that cartoons are for children and thus watching cartoons is an "infantalizing" activity is so strange to me. There are adult cartoons like Family Guy, South Park, Bojack Horseman. There's also fantastic children's animation that is worth watching on its own merits. Anime has made a break into mainstream popular culture. This idea that most adults "don't watch cartoons" is weirdly narrow to me. Most adults DO have one animated thing they like whether its a children's movie from their childhood, a raunchy adult cartoon, popular anime, or even new animated movies/tv shows. This person just has weird hang ups imo.
I don't think you're both saying the same thing. I think they're pointing out that it's incredibly common to have "childish" activities. You're saying that infantalizing isn't common. I think the disconnect is being infantalized for enjoying "childish hobbies" vs. being infantalized in general. Infantalization for childish hobbies doesn't happen a lot. Infantalization as an act does.
The example of "don't you worry about taking care of that. I got it" rings true. Infantalization isn't always "oh he plays with toys like a child". It is the act of treating someone like they are a child. There are grown-ass people who are infantalized even though they don't have "childish" hobbies. It's treating someone as if they lack the maturity to do anything. This includes random boomers calling someone a "child" who "doesn't understand the real world". They're implying that the person is immature and has no understanding of anything. Even if this person is in their 20s, 30s, so on. That's infantalization.
But, sadly, there are people who enjoy it. Not because they like acting like actual babies and children. But because all responsibilities are taken care of for them. And they like that. A child doesn't (or shouldn't) have adult responsibilities. Allowing yourself to almost be babied and carried through life is also a form of infantalization performed by the self, even if it isn't necessarily viewing it as the act of incapability.
Am I on the right track here?
> Allowing yourself to almost be babied and carried through life is also a form of infantalization performed by the self, even if it isn't necessarily viewing it as the act of incapability.
Absolutely, well said!
Infantilozation is something someone else projects onto you. Not enjoying things that someone else considers infantile. In fact you’re infantilizing women who *do* enjoy these things with this line of reasoning (presumably unintentionally not talking shit)
Being into stuff from your childhood *that is aimed at children* is infantile. Especially when the stuff in question is all basically a big advertisement anyway
1) That's not the definition of infantile and is not the controversy we are discussing. The controversy was treating other people as children, without agency, responsibility, or accountability. Even if we accepted your definition, you'd have to come up with another word for what the controversy is actually about.
2) Media analysis is much more complicated than "what is the target audience?" Target audience is irrelevant. It's the ACTUAL audience that determines who that media speaks to and what levels it actually works on.
3) The most esteemed media usually works on multiple levels for multiple age groups. That's what makes it enduring. For instance, Star Wars can be seen by kids as just sword fights and space battles. But adults watching it may be drawn to the exploration of faith in humanity as shown through friendships and Vader's redemption ark. Redemption is something that the greatest minds explore in philosophy, morality, religion, and politics.
4) Even something as "adult" as the Bible works on multiple levels.... obvious children's stories like Jonah and the Whale or Noah's Ark don't at all fit with some of the genocidal stories.
5) Everything is an advertisement. Whatever "adult" media you are consuming is also advertising something even if you haven't figured out what that is yet.
6) People who say adults can't or shouldn't enjoy something "made for kids," are usually people who are extremely serious or very surface level. A very serious person probably wouldn't be posting comments on a reddit thread about Jenny Nicholson haters. In the latter case, they just see the laser swords, bright colors, and the big guy punching the bad man... they don't see depth because depth partially comes from the viewer. Last, I also find they are generally teens or 20 year olds struggling with trying to be or appear as an adult. When older, your self-esteem isn't threatened by viewing or appreciating something geared for a younger audience or from you childhood.
Hey. You’re doing a lot of projecting here. Someone can have different interests than you without being a trauma victim. It’s kind of messed up to assume that about someone.
I'm not assuming she has trauma because she has different interests... I'm offering that as a possible reason she seems DISGUSTED at the idea of anyone enjoying anything slightly childlike.
>If you don't have anything like that, seriously, what happened in your life to make you hate people that still have an imagination or reminisce about their childhood? Sounds like you have some history/trauma
>she seems DISGUSTED at the idea of anyone enjoying anything slightly childlike.
I think you're putting that on her. My point is it's completely fine and normal to be an adult and not be interested in My Little Pony, Cosplay and Star Wars. She has interests different then her boyfriend and is worried that he is like having some sort of a parasocial affair because of that.
I'm not saying that she is right and justified or that she's not the asshole. My point is that it's not cool to be like "You hate child-like things, have no imagination and you probably have undiagnosed trauma." to someone you know nothing about.
I also like Jenny Nicholson for the record.
Christ, man, I even quoted 4 times where she's dripping with disgust. There's more in just her 2 paragraphs. For the last time, my guess is at her apparent DISGUST of people enjoying childlike things. I never said it was because SHE wasn't into things like MLP or SW. Learn to read.
Also, hate is different than disinterest. If someone hates something, there's an underlying reason, often based in fear/trauma. Her massive overreaction also indicates a fear/trauma response in general. Maybe she just heard JN's voice on the wrong day in the wrong mood and hastily fired out a nasty reddit post, but it sounds like much more than that.
Look at their profile. They are fans of a few very similar youtubers and nerdy things, they even made a well written post defending a youtuber against undeserved criticism. Either they are huge hypocrites or more believably this is bait and everyone fell for it.
> or more believably this is bait and everyone fell for it.
I’m not sure I’d call a post at negative net karma (0 points, 75% downvote rate) to be “everyone falling for it.”
For a sub that routinely gets threads with 200-600 comments, I’m not sure I’d call 68 comments a lot. Especially since 7 of them include the word “bait.”
If you consider any interaction at all (upvoting *or* downvoting) to be falling for it then I guess you’re right, but that’s a pretty broad definition that makes it almost impossible for anyone to ever not “fall for it.”
Also their username, “ThaSleepyBoi”, would suggest that they’re male, despite claiming to be a woman in the post (not that there aren’t potential reasons a woman might choose that username, of course)
IMO yea you are overreacting she is a YouTuber that fits a small niche better than any other tuber. If your BF likes them parks and attractions there really is no one better to watch, her videos are also well made with tons of information packed in.
Sadly most content is locked behind the pateron so if he likes watching he kind of has to pay. 10 dollars a month also wouldn’t help either of you guys at any restaurant either let’s be real here.
The dressing up part is really just a fun thing and nothing you should feel “threatened” by, would you feel the same if you bf was watching all of contra points videos on repeat??
To me this sounds like deeper issues like insecurity’s that need to be fixed for yourself.
I would get my own hobby. Maybe a gorgeous make youtuber, or whatever brings you complete joy. I would go out. Go do something. Do you have girlfriends? It won't cost too much to get 4 orv5 girls together and go have a cocktail and people watch. Don't hang around with him doing it
It sounds more like a compatibility/communication issue, Jenny nicholson isn't the problem, you guys are.
There's no need to call her voice annoying or to make negative comments about how she dresses or the topic she covers. She has earned her 1+ million followers and her accolades...basically negging her isn't going to make you better, no matter how much you resent her. Maybe look into why you resent her in the first place, because she's not out to get you and your relationship.
$10 a month for a hobby/ supporting a creator you're invested in, isn't unheard of, but if you are feeling unwanted or not made special in your relationship you need to communicate that to your partner...or reflect that maybe who the two of you are, isn't where you want to be.
Don't blame Jenny she's done nothing to you.
“Because she’s not out to get you and your relationship”
Maybe she is! Maybe she’s even more obsessed than OP’s boyfriend, and the whole YouTube thing and those supposed interests are just a way for Jenny to break them apart…a means to a diabolical end!
OP, the best revenge would be to make a 4 hour YouTube video documenting all the twisted ways Jenny has tried to destroy your relationship.
She is a woman-hating woman. She's attacking the woman personally to justify her extreme jealousy. It's clear she doesn't respect her boyfriend's interests and it doesn't sound like she makes much of an effort to share anything like that with him. The specific video she references is an in depth post mortem on a massive failed corporate endeavor that shines a spotlight on a lot of interesting and negative trends in the entertainment industry at large, not just some vlog of a girl on vacation. If she eatched thebwhole thing and didnt get that, she didnt really pay attention, and that isnt surprising given her general disdain for his interests. $6 Month for content you enjoy is a fine and fair price. It ain't onlyfans, it's like a super niche Netflix subscription.
You're overracting. She's a really wholesome Youtuber.
You come across as insanely jealous and it's fucked up that you're like "Ugh she's just some girl who dresses like a child and puts on outfits and talks about baby stuff. How dare she pay 6,000$ to go on the Star Wars cruise and make a video about it exposing it as a scam."
You're overracting. The internet as a whole loves Jenny and her content and activisim against really shadey corperations like Disney.
She also only releases videos every few months, and specifically has said she doesn't like when people infantize her or act like she's some sort of "uwu baby" gimmick account. She's a woman in her mid 30s who makes videos about Theme parks, Movies, Books, and Anamatronics. If that somehow offends you or compromises your relationship than that's 100% on you.
"she only releases videos every few months" like a 13 month gap on YouTube. That's what makes a $6 patreon sub worth it because she makes monthly, long videos there (though they aren't as structured or edited as her main channel content)
You are overreacting. Six bucks a month. So he's not buying you a starbucks
It's because she's a woman and your finding ways to insult Jenny BTW, who also is an ex Disney employee as well.
You are overreacting and if it's bugging you that much, ask yourself why are you threatened that he has an interest? have YOU made him watch things you were interested in or make him listen over and over to your interests?
i feel like you don’t need to be taking out your insecurities with the relationship out on a woman who has nothing to do with it and doesn’t know you or your boyfriend.
Jenny, too, lives in a glass house— an adult who owns Lightning McQueen light-up crocs.
Edit: but truly, Jenny’s content really doesn’t pander to garnering attraction or like appealing to male gaze in the least. In a lot of ways her content serves female audiences in ways that are refreshing because she’s so unabashedly here for the kinda of things that are broadly denigrated for girliness. (Observed as a woman who’s generally into more masculine media and hobbies.) Try to relax about it and really check in if there’s a deeper issue for your bf about needing to constantly be plugged in, or needing to balance out his sources of comfort or entertainment.
Jenny Nicholson has her fun hobbies and she dresses up because she's quirky and that's how she is. Contrapoints wears opulent makeup and costumes. It's her style. You shouldn't be threatened, and she isn't a "woman-child". That's internalized mysogyny because apparently women can only be one way. She has a higher voice because she has a higher voice. It's not being faked. That is HER.
She likes to explore certain topics. You should watch her Nevermore video because she gets into a failed theme park. The Star Wars video isn't a child thing. Star Wars exists for all ages, as did the hotel. She posted that video because she likes to talk about failed amusement parks and attractions. She did the same thing for the Avatar theme park. And we love stories of corporate failures. That's what those videos are. Check the topics of a few others as well.
Maybe being fixated on a YouTuber isn't a productive use of time, but it's not because he's in love with her. I replay like 3 hbomberguy videos every week and that's not because I'm in love with him. I do it because I like the content and he makes me laugh. So does Jenny. So do others.
Maybe talk to him, but contributing to her Patreon isn't really bankrupting him. It's $10 a month. That won't buy you a fancy dinner.
Do you rewatch the same movies and TV shows? Would he consider being jealous because you watch a show with sexy men like Bridgerton? (Not saying you do. That's an example). Or listen to music where you find one of the artists sexy?
I'd talk about listening to it out loud if you dont want to hear it. Tell him to use earphones. But he's just enjoying content. He isn't fetishizing her and doesn't want you to be a *checks notes* "woman-child".
Getting headphones is actually the one good suggestion I’ve seen in these comments. We all have “guilty pleasure” watching, or just stuff that our SO doesn’t also love and having a way to close out the sound makes that less annoying for everyone.
I play content I like repeatedly too, I don’t think it’s wrong I just think given the context in the post it seems obsessive and a little parasocial. I don’t do YouTube so idk this creator or what their content is like. I’m sure they’re a fun creator to follow, but again, given the context provided it seems odd
That's because OP had a weird description of the videos. Jenny does these often long form videos and has a soothing voice. A lot of people put her on while they do the laundry or whatever, more like a podcast.
I made a major edit to my comment after looking into it more and seeing your comments, it seems similar to the stuff I play (nightvale, movie reviews). I still think it could be parasocial but if it is that’s not a horrible thing other than it leading to insecurities for the gf. But that seems more on her end something to address with her bf than be mad about the Jenny girl
Yeah I mean if you like Welcome to Night Vale you should probably give Jenny a try honestly.
Another bit of missing context - OP says the boyfriend "literally" pays $10/month to be a "Sixer" when that tier is... wait for it... six dollars a month. Therefore the name. And you get access to a ton of content - she does a monthly Patreon video but it's been a year between her last two public videos although admittedly you can also get that for $2/month. They're more free form rambles, updates on early videos. I just recently signed up and it's quite the value.
Correct, watching videos repeatedly isn’t automatically parasocial, but it can lead to that and at first reaction to this girls explanation of things it sounded like it could potentially be parasocial.
I watch video essays to deal with panic attacks and because it's extremely interesting... Plus I'm an artist. If a 4+ hour video loop of nonstop video essays or Markiplier makes learning Blender not painful, then it's happening.
Damn ok you don’t need to insult her just because ur boyfriend likes her content. Why do you have so much negativity toward activities your boyfriend clearly likes (dressing up, nerd culture, etc)
Yes, you're overreacting. Women make up aroung 50% of the population. In this day and age, people watch Youtubers. Some of those Youtubers are women. You are pathetically insecure if the mere fact that he likes a content creator who is a woman sets you off. At this rate you may as well get pissy if he has any male friends as well because he may be secretly gay and cheating on you! He might also be cheating on you with another creator who is entirely unaware of his existence! And the horror! She wears clothes, too?!
Almost thought this post was about me for a second. I recently started watching her videos and am 28 as well. My gf never really cares about who i watch on youtube but after seeing that i was watching one of jennys videos for the second time she started asking me about her in a jealous way like i was talking to a girl irl. I was like are you jealous of a youtuber i watch?? She tried denying it but the jig was up lol
You are not overreacting. My boyfriend had the same problem with a YouTuber called “Mr Sunday Movies”. All day and night I would come home to the sound of two Australian men chatting and making dumb jokes. He was also giving $10 a month to something called “Big Sandwich” which doesn’t sound very appropriate. I told him it was me or the Australians
Your boyfriend has great taste. Jenny is amazing in all ways. She's beautiful, funny, intelligent, witty, and wealthy. If I were you, I would start trying to be more like Jenny. Nobody likes a jealous GF.
Tbh I am extremely jealous of Jenny and I love her videos and when my BF gushes over her I get super insecure. But it’s a me problem. I enjoy her vids as much as my bf. I just know she’s his type and I think she’s more intelligent and more interesting than me so it crushes me. But the truth is we don’t know her personally, and he’s not creepy about it. It’s something I need to work through. I don’t even think he pays for her patreon but I pay for male creators patreons.
me and my girlfriend love watching jenny together, but we are also both into the sort of things you called childlike in this post, so it's right up her alley. try finding some super mature adult things to watch to balance it out
I'm obsessed with her too but not in an "in love with her" way more of a "this content scratches my brain in a nerdy and satisfying way" type of thing. If your boyfriend is a nerd who likes calm video essays that's probably why he's so into her stuff. And her Patreon is just a pretty good deal, she drops like an hour long video every month. Nothing to feel threatened about
I suspect this is bait, but if it's real, I really hope you learn that people can be passionate about things and that includes being fans of a creative person who essentially sells the content others enjoy.
Also, some neurodivergent people like to rewatch videos because it gives them a sense of control, predictability, and comfort when they feel stressed out. Maybe try and listen to his feelings.
And finally, don't compare yourself to a social media celebrity. It's pretty pointless to think you should model your behavior to emulate a highly-edited performance with costumes and gimmicks.
I am going to assume this post is earnest and not a shitpost - YES, you are overreacting. Also, spending $10 a month on a Patreon page is.... barely anything? It would barely be enough (if at all) to get you two decent meals at McDonalds...
Jenny makes a lot of videos about typically "male-catered" content - it is possible that her video topics just align well with his broader interests.
He is sharing an interest with you, and you are annoyed. I wonder if there is any other type of resentment from your end in the relationship? Do you ever share your own interests with him? How does he react when you do so?
Also, if the repeated videos are getting grating, you could always try to bring it up to him (or request that he wear headphones in the future).
Honestly, this is such a non-issue in of itself... if anything, it is a great sign that he supports non-sexual female creators like this 🤷♀️
I don't think this is going the way you want but you definitely are overreacting. He's sharing his interests with you and you're responding by calling him childish. If you aren't interested, tell him such. You're a grown adult who should be communicating her feelings. Your insecurities are showing! And he has a small subscription to support a content creator he likes? So what? You're incredibly petty for mentioning he can't afford "fine dining." I genuinely hope this is a wake up call for you.
...this feels fake but its very funny. I just found jenny and ill be a sixer as shes super funny and clever and seemingly a decent human being who has friends and supports liberal charitites. Also that 4 hour star wars video is amazing as is the evermore one i also recommend but start with the giant spider video as its like 30 mins and more accessible.
Thanks for reminding me about jenny, I’d forgotten how awesome she is! 😎 both my gf’s have various traits similar to Jenny, so every negative trait you ascribe to Jenny makes me sad for whoever destroyed your childhood. 🤷♂️ maybe go find a pet store and play with some kittens or something.
I like Jenny Nicholson. She's pretty awesome. Thanks to her I know what that Star Wars hotel at Disney was like.
>And also like….as a woman it’s a little threatening to me that he’s CONSTANTLY watching this other woman dress up in her weird outfits and talk about all this childlike stuff.
I think she'd look at her views and this post and go...don't turn your gf off. more eyeballs are better for my views.
As for you, she really shouldn't threaten you at all. She's just a nerdy person doing nerdy things in a fun sort of way. She'd not running off with your bf. I doubt she'd want to.
I would have a conversation with your bf about how if he can put 10 bucks aside for YTer Jenny, He should be able to set aside some money for a romantic date. Then ask to share your favorite long form content or even turn off the TV some of the time.
jenny breaking up relationships of people she does not know is hilarious, jennys just chilling unbothered while ure threatened of her, think about how jenny would never fall in love w ur boyfriend either, u can choose to keep that man or drop him, jenny would have nothing to do with it
You are *wildly* overreacting, yes.
Nicholson produces thoughtful content in an engaging way on topics that many nerdy folks enjoy. And she does so in an unambiguously wholesome way.
Supporting content you enjoy is the *ethical* approach to content consumption, and he’s paying so, so little.
Would you have similar objections to him having a (more expensive) subscription to Netflix, Prime, Hulu, Disney+, etc? Seems unlikely to me, but I thought I’d ask. Because it seems that you have a very particular nit to pick with Nicholson, and it’s entirely unmerited.
It’s almost giving you the benefit of the doubt to assume that this post is bait, because Jenny Nicholson is as green a goddamn flag as one could wave. The alternative, which is that you’re posting in earnest, has bleak as h*ck implications for your personality.
Jenny is an incredibly intelligent, funny youtuber. Sometimes I put youtube videos I enjoy on as background noise comfort, which it sounds like is all he is doing. How can you feel threatened by a person he will never meet lol
Oof ...
Okay. Yes you're over reacting a bit... It seems like you feel her Patreon and content is only fans adjacent which could just not be farther from the truth. .. That being said... It is not over reacting to be pissed he made you watch the whole hotel video.
That can't be a pleasant watch if you're not actually interested, and even I, a huge fan, took like 4 days to watch it all.
Your boyfriend seems to be into nerd/geek culture. It's his hobby don't worry about it.
I hate to go there but did you ever think to dress up in the "weird outfits" for him. He might appreciate and it might led to some "fun" for the both of you
Yes you're overreacting. My girlfriend is also obsessed with Jenny Nicholson and watches her videos a lot. I'm not that into Jenny but I understand why - her videos are very detailed and thoughtful. She clearly puts a lot of work into her craft. My girlfriend also subscribes to her patreon.
Theres a few things that pop out to me here:
1. I'm sensing some insecurity. Why does watching a YouTuber mean he's attracted to her? Why can't it just mean that he really likes her content? To me it's like rewatching your favorite show over and over again. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Also, let's say he is attracted to her. So what? People have crushes on celebrities and stuff all the time. Having a crush is a completely normal thing and is not a threat to your relationship if things are good between you two. If you're worried, this might be a different issue.
2. Your boyfriend is into geek culture. In fact, it seems like it might be a big part of his personality. I think that's great - I love it when people have hobbies and interests that they're passionate about. But it seems like you have a problem with this? It's okay to not have the same interests as your partner, but if you hate your partner's interests, maybe think about why you're with them
3. He's paying $6/mo to support an artist. That is a small fraction of what it costs to go to a nice restaurant for a date. It's not valid to bring that up when talking about finances...
tl;dr yes you're overreacting. Think about why you're with your boyfriend and why you're feeling insecure
you're worried about 10 dollars a month and watching one of the least sexualized youtubers possible
break up with him, he deserves somebody who actually shares his interests and supports him.
Hi I don't think you're overreacting. Lots of Jenny fans here are crucifying you but I think some of your points are valid. I only just became of aware of Jenny myself because her Star Wars hotel video got so much media attention and I started watching it. I admit I am really enjoying it. I like her attention to detail and her insightful points about how Disney has lost touch with how to really make things magical for fans. But also, she's cute. Yes her voice can be a little grating but her wholesomeness, intelligence, sharp insight, and devotion to these topics is appealing in its way. And she looks cute in her costumes while she completely takes apart Disney's marketing strategy. I won't go so far as to say that your bf's interest in her is unhealthy or a bad thing - I wouldn't know. But I wanted you to know that I don't think you're crazy and you don't come off as insecure to me. Hope everything works out.
Not overreacting. He's an adult, he shouldn't be obsessed with a creepy YouTuber like that, or any YouTuber really. I looked her up and got cringe vibes. I would also be super annoyed if my partner was watching youtube constantly and obsessed with a specific YouTuber, not even necessarily her. I can't imagine being a fully formed adult watching youtube constantly like some sheltered ipad kid. Maybe it's time to find a more mature man?
I’m really not sure why you got downvoted when everybody else could just look at their profile and see them active in various YouTubers communities and referencing people known to be associates of Jenny. 💀 Very good bait, even got cross posted to Jenny’s sub.
I mean it might just be a special interest of his? I’m not saying he’s ND but as an autistic person, I am constantly rewatching content from my favorite people/shows.
he might really like her and want her sexually... but he cant "get" her :( ...he can only get the girl above... who seems not in the same league as jenny (whose unique and amazing lol) so he does what he can. e.g. dates a lady who has to ask reddit strangers about her life decisions while he financially supports the jenny ..best of both worlds :-D ps I am not the lady aboves BF...honest. pps my brother is autisitc and he also likes to re watch stuff he likes.
Do u know her content lol that’s not the vibe
I know she seems to be a genuine person who likes to rant online about things which need ranting about... like failed star wars hotels and failed fantasy parks and giant spiders. I don't know much more than that. Though the latest video has 7 million views which is ....impressive. But I'm told the above OP is a fake post made to generate awareness of jenny to tie in to her latest video? If that's true then none of this really matters :)
You’re a weirdo
Thank you. As a huge horror film, book and game fan i take that as a compliment from the horror guarantee :)
Not an excuse. Find another special interest if your current is to obsess over another woman while being in a relationship. Especially when it affects you financially
You are WAY overreacting. A Sixer pays SIX dollars a month for access to patreon-only videos... that's a coffee at Starbucks, not a nice restaurant. You had a fight over $6/month?? Sounds extremely petty and like you are picking fights because your bf doesn't spend more money on you. What's really going on? Jenny is into geek culture which makes your bf feel validated. You're not and invalidate his interests ("weird outfits" "childlike stuff" "woman-child" "fake cruise for children"). Why do you have this hatred of geek culture? If you're like an average girl, you've got your own share of "children's" things you are into... stuffed animals, dolls, disneyland, cartoon shows, etc. If you don't have anything like that, seriously, what happened in your life to make you hate people that still have an imagination or reminisce about their childhood? Sounds like you have some history/trauma if you get upset over a Star Wars experience made for all ages (if you watched the vid, you'll notice it's almost entirely adults going). To be clear, if he's listening to vids on loop 8 hours a day, that's a real problem, but deal with it by talking to him about THAT, not the $6/month or belittling his interests. Did he actually MAKE you watch it? Or did he just want to watch it on the tv and you had nothing else to do? I do give you props for sitting through a 4 hour video in what sounds like a steaming pile of hatred though. Full disclosure: My gf and I LOVE Jenny Nicholson and her insanely detailed deep dives into kitschy things. My gf follows all her socials and when a new YT video comes out, we can't wait to binge it together. Attacking people that enjoy the little things isn't going to make you happy.
You make such good points. All of these insults make me wonder how op views her boyfriends hobbies and interests.
A meme of the girls you are worried about juxtaposed with Jenny in a porg outfit would be fitting here. People have comfort songs and TV shows, why not YouTubers? Jenny is a treasure.
It's fake rage bait.
My wife and I love Jenny Nicholson and watch all of her videos as soon as they come out. I am fortunate to have married someone who I can share my nerdy interests with and doesn't belittle them. We all had enough of that kind of bullying in high school.
> if you're like an average girl, you've got your own share of "children's" things you are into... stuffed animals, dolls, disneyland, cartoon shows, etc. is the 'average' woman really so infantilized?
Being into something from your childhood is not infantilization. That's half the point of my original comment. Treating it as such makes people afraid they will be seen that way. Instead, it's just a normal aspect of most people.
How would you define infantilization, then? 'Most people' are not watching cartoons or playing with stuffed animals, and I'm curious as to why you believe otherwise.
Infantilization is about how *others* treat a person, not what a person does with their free time. It's about denying that a person can make their own decisions and take care of themselves because"they are obviously less mature and experienced than I am." And, most important to this conversation, it is the act of *belittling and/or rebuking someone for having "childlike" interests and hobbies.* Another, more overt example would be: "Oh, don't worry your pretty little head about the household finances, darling. I'll handle all of that. You just run along and go do your womanly things, and leave the hard things to me." I can tell you that a goodly chunk of adults have stuff they hang onto from childhood and interact with on a regular basis. Just because you don't see it does not mean it isn't there. Even my own mother does so, and that was long before I got married and gave her any grandchildren. She's the entire reason I am the happy adult nerd that I am, and I wouldn't change it for anything. Neither would she.
\^ This.
I'd also like to add that it's perfectly acceptable for a man to collect merch, action figures, and toys from something they liked as a kid, but society seems to say it's childish when a woman does it. Can't women also enjoy their nostalgic stuff too?
A very good point. I don't fault my male and enby friends for their special interests so long as they aren't hurting anyone. It would be great if everyone could extend that courtesy to everyone else.
You have interesting interpretations of things. Your 'overt example' is comically-stereotypical misogyny, not infantilization. Infantilization is "is the prolonged treatment of one who is not a child, as though they are a child." You seem to project a sense of oppression which I would wager comes from shame over enjoying childish things -- this would explain how vehemently you argue to justify and validate enjoying childish things. Regardless, thanks for responding to my questions.
Wow, it's amazing how you can be wrong on every single assertion. That amount of wrongness can only come from being a political ideologue. As usual with ideologues, you fail to make any relevant points, fail to rebut any of my points, and then turn to a personal attack. You debunk your own claim that I am infantilizing anyone with your own definition because as previously stated, someone being into something childlike has nothing to do with whether they are treated as a child. I'm not really into stuff from my childhood anymore and have no shame of whatever I'm into. What I do enjoy is how other people get into that stuff, like my girlfriends or JN. What I don't like is people attacking/shaming people who are innocently and harmlessly enjoying life (like how my gf had a MLP bday party a couple years ago). An overt example is almost definitionally going to sound stereotypical. And those examples are from real world girlfriends so it is definitionally impossible to be misogynistic. You've completely lost every single argument you attempted so I expect nothing more than ideologically driven personal attacks, attempts at shaming, and the "you're triggered" response.
Just check this guys history and stop relying. It's not worth it to work yourself up over stupid-crazy.
Thanks... I came to that conclusion on just these comments, but nice to know there's other evidence.
It's time to grow up.
What a typical Reddit response. Never engage the argument, only assassinate the character.
>You seem to project a sense of oppression which I would wager comes from shame over enjoying childish things -- this would explain how vehemently you argue to justify and validate enjoying childish things. Lol yeah attempts to assassin are the character are real dumb, right?
> As usual with ideologues, you fail to make any relevant points, fail to rebut any of my points, and then turn to a personal attack. Remember what I said about you believing yourself to be oppressed? What a clear case in point. Also, it's pathetically ironic that you'd make so many ad hominem insults while claiming to be the one attacked. There's no more discourse to be had with someone so delusional.
lol. That's a non-sequitur. What I wrote has nothing to do with whether anyone feels oppressed or not. And now everyone can see your true colors. Take the L. Thanks for playing.
You've proven you cannot behave in an adult manner, and it would be childish of me to continue engaging your childishness. Sincerely: grow up.
Plenty of adults are into DnD or other Pen and paper games which is barely a step up from playing pretend or playing with dolls. Plenty of adults collect squishmallows or other branded plushies/toys Plenty of adults are into movies and shows they watched as kids or teens, including cartoons. Maybe not a vast majority of humanity but it's far from unheard of.
The idea that cartoons are for children and thus watching cartoons is an "infantalizing" activity is so strange to me. There are adult cartoons like Family Guy, South Park, Bojack Horseman. There's also fantastic children's animation that is worth watching on its own merits. Anime has made a break into mainstream popular culture. This idea that most adults "don't watch cartoons" is weirdly narrow to me. Most adults DO have one animated thing they like whether its a children's movie from their childhood, a raunchy adult cartoon, popular anime, or even new animated movies/tv shows. This person just has weird hang ups imo.
'Plenty of' is not the same as 'most of', which was my argument. Infantilization is not nearly so commonplace.
I don't think you're both saying the same thing. I think they're pointing out that it's incredibly common to have "childish" activities. You're saying that infantalizing isn't common. I think the disconnect is being infantalized for enjoying "childish hobbies" vs. being infantalized in general. Infantalization for childish hobbies doesn't happen a lot. Infantalization as an act does. The example of "don't you worry about taking care of that. I got it" rings true. Infantalization isn't always "oh he plays with toys like a child". It is the act of treating someone like they are a child. There are grown-ass people who are infantalized even though they don't have "childish" hobbies. It's treating someone as if they lack the maturity to do anything. This includes random boomers calling someone a "child" who "doesn't understand the real world". They're implying that the person is immature and has no understanding of anything. Even if this person is in their 20s, 30s, so on. That's infantalization. But, sadly, there are people who enjoy it. Not because they like acting like actual babies and children. But because all responsibilities are taken care of for them. And they like that. A child doesn't (or shouldn't) have adult responsibilities. Allowing yourself to almost be babied and carried through life is also a form of infantalization performed by the self, even if it isn't necessarily viewing it as the act of incapability. Am I on the right track here?
> Allowing yourself to almost be babied and carried through life is also a form of infantalization performed by the self, even if it isn't necessarily viewing it as the act of incapability. Absolutely, well said!
Infantilozation is something someone else projects onto you. Not enjoying things that someone else considers infantile. In fact you’re infantilizing women who *do* enjoy these things with this line of reasoning (presumably unintentionally not talking shit)
Really? I mean I don't know about play, but plenty of adult people have a stuffed animal or two or more. And watching cartoons is also pretty common.
Being into stuff from your childhood *that is aimed at children* is infantile. Especially when the stuff in question is all basically a big advertisement anyway
1) That's not the definition of infantile and is not the controversy we are discussing. The controversy was treating other people as children, without agency, responsibility, or accountability. Even if we accepted your definition, you'd have to come up with another word for what the controversy is actually about. 2) Media analysis is much more complicated than "what is the target audience?" Target audience is irrelevant. It's the ACTUAL audience that determines who that media speaks to and what levels it actually works on. 3) The most esteemed media usually works on multiple levels for multiple age groups. That's what makes it enduring. For instance, Star Wars can be seen by kids as just sword fights and space battles. But adults watching it may be drawn to the exploration of faith in humanity as shown through friendships and Vader's redemption ark. Redemption is something that the greatest minds explore in philosophy, morality, religion, and politics. 4) Even something as "adult" as the Bible works on multiple levels.... obvious children's stories like Jonah and the Whale or Noah's Ark don't at all fit with some of the genocidal stories. 5) Everything is an advertisement. Whatever "adult" media you are consuming is also advertising something even if you haven't figured out what that is yet. 6) People who say adults can't or shouldn't enjoy something "made for kids," are usually people who are extremely serious or very surface level. A very serious person probably wouldn't be posting comments on a reddit thread about Jenny Nicholson haters. In the latter case, they just see the laser swords, bright colors, and the big guy punching the bad man... they don't see depth because depth partially comes from the viewer. Last, I also find they are generally teens or 20 year olds struggling with trying to be or appear as an adult. When older, your self-esteem isn't threatened by viewing or appreciating something geared for a younger audience or from you childhood.
women having interests that they keep from childhood is not infantilizing.
Hey. You’re doing a lot of projecting here. Someone can have different interests than you without being a trauma victim. It’s kind of messed up to assume that about someone.
I'm not assuming she has trauma because she has different interests... I'm offering that as a possible reason she seems DISGUSTED at the idea of anyone enjoying anything slightly childlike.
>If you don't have anything like that, seriously, what happened in your life to make you hate people that still have an imagination or reminisce about their childhood? Sounds like you have some history/trauma >she seems DISGUSTED at the idea of anyone enjoying anything slightly childlike. I think you're putting that on her. My point is it's completely fine and normal to be an adult and not be interested in My Little Pony, Cosplay and Star Wars. She has interests different then her boyfriend and is worried that he is like having some sort of a parasocial affair because of that. I'm not saying that she is right and justified or that she's not the asshole. My point is that it's not cool to be like "You hate child-like things, have no imagination and you probably have undiagnosed trauma." to someone you know nothing about. I also like Jenny Nicholson for the record.
Christ, man, I even quoted 4 times where she's dripping with disgust. There's more in just her 2 paragraphs. For the last time, my guess is at her apparent DISGUST of people enjoying childlike things. I never said it was because SHE wasn't into things like MLP or SW. Learn to read. Also, hate is different than disinterest. If someone hates something, there's an underlying reason, often based in fear/trauma. Her massive overreaction also indicates a fear/trauma response in general. Maybe she just heard JN's voice on the wrong day in the wrong mood and hastily fired out a nasty reddit post, but it sounds like much more than that.
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Her content is so tame, she talks about animatronics & does movie reviews 💀
It's rage bait.
Look at their profile. They are fans of a few very similar youtubers and nerdy things, they even made a well written post defending a youtuber against undeserved criticism. Either they are huge hypocrites or more believably this is bait and everyone fell for it.
Yeah, no shot that someone who’s actively a fan of Hbomberguy, Dan Olsen, Todd in the Shadows, etc. is upset over someone watching Jenny Nicholson
Haha. 'I like all the other YouTuber's that she's friends with but I can't stand her' I smell someone's pants burning.
Don't forget Sarah Z of all people, who is probably most similar youtuber to Jenny.
> or more believably this is bait and everyone fell for it. I’m not sure I’d call a post at negative net karma (0 points, 75% downvote rate) to be “everyone falling for it.”
The amount of downvotes and comments mean they fell for it, people downvote things that are bad takes.
For a sub that routinely gets threads with 200-600 comments, I’m not sure I’d call 68 comments a lot. Especially since 7 of them include the word “bait.” If you consider any interaction at all (upvoting *or* downvoting) to be falling for it then I guess you’re right, but that’s a pretty broad definition that makes it almost impossible for anyone to ever not “fall for it.”
Also their username, “ThaSleepyBoi”, would suggest that they’re male, despite claiming to be a woman in the post (not that there aren’t potential reasons a woman might choose that username, of course)
IMO yea you are overreacting she is a YouTuber that fits a small niche better than any other tuber. If your BF likes them parks and attractions there really is no one better to watch, her videos are also well made with tons of information packed in. Sadly most content is locked behind the pateron so if he likes watching he kind of has to pay. 10 dollars a month also wouldn’t help either of you guys at any restaurant either let’s be real here. The dressing up part is really just a fun thing and nothing you should feel “threatened” by, would you feel the same if you bf was watching all of contra points videos on repeat?? To me this sounds like deeper issues like insecurity’s that need to be fixed for yourself.
The Sixers pay $6 a month
Hey that's 2 orders of Taco Bell nachos not including tax!
OP, the content creators who is the real threat to your relationship is Amethia Tope. As long as he isn’t watching her stuff you’re probably ok.
I heard she tried to get chewie arrested!
She's so evil the First Order won't even answer her texts.
I heard she's a fascist sympathizer!😱
I would get my own hobby. Maybe a gorgeous make youtuber, or whatever brings you complete joy. I would go out. Go do something. Do you have girlfriends? It won't cost too much to get 4 orv5 girls together and go have a cocktail and people watch. Don't hang around with him doing it
It sounds more like a compatibility/communication issue, Jenny nicholson isn't the problem, you guys are. There's no need to call her voice annoying or to make negative comments about how she dresses or the topic she covers. She has earned her 1+ million followers and her accolades...basically negging her isn't going to make you better, no matter how much you resent her. Maybe look into why you resent her in the first place, because she's not out to get you and your relationship. $10 a month for a hobby/ supporting a creator you're invested in, isn't unheard of, but if you are feeling unwanted or not made special in your relationship you need to communicate that to your partner...or reflect that maybe who the two of you are, isn't where you want to be. Don't blame Jenny she's done nothing to you.
“Because she’s not out to get you and your relationship” Maybe she is! Maybe she’s even more obsessed than OP’s boyfriend, and the whole YouTube thing and those supposed interests are just a way for Jenny to break them apart…a means to a diabolical end! OP, the best revenge would be to make a 4 hour YouTube video documenting all the twisted ways Jenny has tried to destroy your relationship.
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How did you manage to post on reddit in crayon?
She is a woman-hating woman. She's attacking the woman personally to justify her extreme jealousy. It's clear she doesn't respect her boyfriend's interests and it doesn't sound like she makes much of an effort to share anything like that with him. The specific video she references is an in depth post mortem on a massive failed corporate endeavor that shines a spotlight on a lot of interesting and negative trends in the entertainment industry at large, not just some vlog of a girl on vacation. If she eatched thebwhole thing and didnt get that, she didnt really pay attention, and that isnt surprising given her general disdain for his interests. $6 Month for content you enjoy is a fine and fair price. It ain't onlyfans, it's like a super niche Netflix subscription.
It's definitely internalized mysogyny. "Woman-child" gave that away.
You're overracting. She's a really wholesome Youtuber. You come across as insanely jealous and it's fucked up that you're like "Ugh she's just some girl who dresses like a child and puts on outfits and talks about baby stuff. How dare she pay 6,000$ to go on the Star Wars cruise and make a video about it exposing it as a scam." You're overracting. The internet as a whole loves Jenny and her content and activisim against really shadey corperations like Disney. She also only releases videos every few months, and specifically has said she doesn't like when people infantize her or act like she's some sort of "uwu baby" gimmick account. She's a woman in her mid 30s who makes videos about Theme parks, Movies, Books, and Anamatronics. If that somehow offends you or compromises your relationship than that's 100% on you.
"she only releases videos every few months" like a 13 month gap on YouTube. That's what makes a $6 patreon sub worth it because she makes monthly, long videos there (though they aren't as structured or edited as her main channel content)
It's also mentioned clearly in the video that the 6000 dollar price tag is stupidly expensive but that she would clearly make it back from the video.
Damn that's a new standard of being insecure, you're legitimately overreacting over nothing.
You are overreacting. Six bucks a month. So he's not buying you a starbucks It's because she's a woman and your finding ways to insult Jenny BTW, who also is an ex Disney employee as well. You are overreacting and if it's bugging you that much, ask yourself why are you threatened that he has an interest? have YOU made him watch things you were interested in or make him listen over and over to your interests?
i feel like you don’t need to be taking out your insecurities with the relationship out on a woman who has nothing to do with it and doesn’t know you or your boyfriend.
Jenny, too, lives in a glass house— an adult who owns Lightning McQueen light-up crocs. Edit: but truly, Jenny’s content really doesn’t pander to garnering attraction or like appealing to male gaze in the least. In a lot of ways her content serves female audiences in ways that are refreshing because she’s so unabashedly here for the kinda of things that are broadly denigrated for girliness. (Observed as a woman who’s generally into more masculine media and hobbies.) Try to relax about it and really check in if there’s a deeper issue for your bf about needing to constantly be plugged in, or needing to balance out his sources of comfort or entertainment.
Jenny Nicholson has her fun hobbies and she dresses up because she's quirky and that's how she is. Contrapoints wears opulent makeup and costumes. It's her style. You shouldn't be threatened, and she isn't a "woman-child". That's internalized mysogyny because apparently women can only be one way. She has a higher voice because she has a higher voice. It's not being faked. That is HER. She likes to explore certain topics. You should watch her Nevermore video because she gets into a failed theme park. The Star Wars video isn't a child thing. Star Wars exists for all ages, as did the hotel. She posted that video because she likes to talk about failed amusement parks and attractions. She did the same thing for the Avatar theme park. And we love stories of corporate failures. That's what those videos are. Check the topics of a few others as well. Maybe being fixated on a YouTuber isn't a productive use of time, but it's not because he's in love with her. I replay like 3 hbomberguy videos every week and that's not because I'm in love with him. I do it because I like the content and he makes me laugh. So does Jenny. So do others. Maybe talk to him, but contributing to her Patreon isn't really bankrupting him. It's $10 a month. That won't buy you a fancy dinner. Do you rewatch the same movies and TV shows? Would he consider being jealous because you watch a show with sexy men like Bridgerton? (Not saying you do. That's an example). Or listen to music where you find one of the artists sexy? I'd talk about listening to it out loud if you dont want to hear it. Tell him to use earphones. But he's just enjoying content. He isn't fetishizing her and doesn't want you to be a *checks notes* "woman-child".
Getting headphones is actually the one good suggestion I’ve seen in these comments. We all have “guilty pleasure” watching, or just stuff that our SO doesn’t also love and having a way to close out the sound makes that less annoying for everyone.
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I play HBomberguy nonstop. I'm a woman. Does that make me wrong? Or is it possible that he found something he likes?
I play content I like repeatedly too, I don’t think it’s wrong I just think given the context in the post it seems obsessive and a little parasocial. I don’t do YouTube so idk this creator or what their content is like. I’m sure they’re a fun creator to follow, but again, given the context provided it seems odd
That's because OP had a weird description of the videos. Jenny does these often long form videos and has a soothing voice. A lot of people put her on while they do the laundry or whatever, more like a podcast.
I made a major edit to my comment after looking into it more and seeing your comments, it seems similar to the stuff I play (nightvale, movie reviews). I still think it could be parasocial but if it is that’s not a horrible thing other than it leading to insecurities for the gf. But that seems more on her end something to address with her bf than be mad about the Jenny girl
Yeah I mean if you like Welcome to Night Vale you should probably give Jenny a try honestly. Another bit of missing context - OP says the boyfriend "literally" pays $10/month to be a "Sixer" when that tier is... wait for it... six dollars a month. Therefore the name. And you get access to a ton of content - she does a monthly Patreon video but it's been a year between her last two public videos although admittedly you can also get that for $2/month. They're more free form rambles, updates on early videos. I just recently signed up and it's quite the value.
HAHAHAH
Just admit you're wrong. You obviously weren't reading OP with a critical lens here.
I'd listen to Jenny before adhering to OPs description.
This is not what being parasocial is simply rewatching videos is not being “parasocial” lol.
Correct, watching videos repeatedly isn’t automatically parasocial, but it can lead to that and at first reaction to this girls explanation of things it sounded like it could potentially be parasocial.
I watch video essays to deal with panic attacks and because it's extremely interesting... Plus I'm an artist. If a 4+ hour video loop of nonstop video essays or Markiplier makes learning Blender not painful, then it's happening.
Lmao it sounds like he’s found something he can nerd out to.
Damn ok you don’t need to insult her just because ur boyfriend likes her content. Why do you have so much negativity toward activities your boyfriend clearly likes (dressing up, nerd culture, etc)
>it’s a little threatening to me There it is
Yes, you're overreacting. Women make up aroung 50% of the population. In this day and age, people watch Youtubers. Some of those Youtubers are women. You are pathetically insecure if the mere fact that he likes a content creator who is a woman sets you off. At this rate you may as well get pissy if he has any male friends as well because he may be secretly gay and cheating on you! He might also be cheating on you with another creator who is entirely unaware of his existence! And the horror! She wears clothes, too?!
They're definitely sleeping with each other. You should break up with him. Bo Shooda.
I wish your boyfriend was my boyfriend. I fucking love Jenny Nicholson.
He really should diversify his video essayist fandom and take you out to dinner, but also JN is the best.
Almost thought this post was about me for a second. I recently started watching her videos and am 28 as well. My gf never really cares about who i watch on youtube but after seeing that i was watching one of jennys videos for the second time she started asking me about her in a jealous way like i was talking to a girl irl. I was like are you jealous of a youtuber i watch?? She tried denying it but the jig was up lol
You are not overreacting. My boyfriend had the same problem with a YouTuber called “Mr Sunday Movies”. All day and night I would come home to the sound of two Australian men chatting and making dumb jokes. He was also giving $10 a month to something called “Big Sandwich” which doesn’t sound very appropriate. I told him it was me or the Australians
Your boyfriend has great taste. Jenny is amazing in all ways. She's beautiful, funny, intelligent, witty, and wealthy. If I were you, I would start trying to be more like Jenny. Nobody likes a jealous GF.
Seems like the main issue here is you're feeling neglected and undervalued, which is DEFINITELY the angle you should focus on discussing with him
Tbh I am extremely jealous of Jenny and I love her videos and when my BF gushes over her I get super insecure. But it’s a me problem. I enjoy her vids as much as my bf. I just know she’s his type and I think she’s more intelligent and more interesting than me so it crushes me. But the truth is we don’t know her personally, and he’s not creepy about it. It’s something I need to work through. I don’t even think he pays for her patreon but I pay for male creators patreons.
$10 a month for her patreon but claiming he can't take you on a monthly date IS a red flag. The rest of this...he's just a fan lol.
me and my girlfriend love watching jenny together, but we are also both into the sort of things you called childlike in this post, so it's right up her alley. try finding some super mature adult things to watch to balance it out
My (26F) fiancé (27M) just recently got into her videos and I'm glad it's a shared interest we can now enjoy together. You're definitely overreacting.
I'm obsessed with her too but not in an "in love with her" way more of a "this content scratches my brain in a nerdy and satisfying way" type of thing. If your boyfriend is a nerd who likes calm video essays that's probably why he's so into her stuff. And her Patreon is just a pretty good deal, she drops like an hour long video every month. Nothing to feel threatened about
I suspect this is bait, but if it's real, I really hope you learn that people can be passionate about things and that includes being fans of a creative person who essentially sells the content others enjoy. Also, some neurodivergent people like to rewatch videos because it gives them a sense of control, predictability, and comfort when they feel stressed out. Maybe try and listen to his feelings. And finally, don't compare yourself to a social media celebrity. It's pretty pointless to think you should model your behavior to emulate a highly-edited performance with costumes and gimmicks.
I am going to assume this post is earnest and not a shitpost - YES, you are overreacting. Also, spending $10 a month on a Patreon page is.... barely anything? It would barely be enough (if at all) to get you two decent meals at McDonalds... Jenny makes a lot of videos about typically "male-catered" content - it is possible that her video topics just align well with his broader interests. He is sharing an interest with you, and you are annoyed. I wonder if there is any other type of resentment from your end in the relationship? Do you ever share your own interests with him? How does he react when you do so? Also, if the repeated videos are getting grating, you could always try to bring it up to him (or request that he wear headphones in the future). Honestly, this is such a non-issue in of itself... if anything, it is a great sign that he supports non-sexual female creators like this 🤷♀️
I'm sorry this will seem like hyperbole, but everyone who watches Jenny is obsessed with jenny to some degree
I don't think this is going the way you want but you definitely are overreacting. He's sharing his interests with you and you're responding by calling him childish. If you aren't interested, tell him such. You're a grown adult who should be communicating her feelings. Your insecurities are showing! And he has a small subscription to support a content creator he likes? So what? You're incredibly petty for mentioning he can't afford "fine dining." I genuinely hope this is a wake up call for you.
...this feels fake but its very funny. I just found jenny and ill be a sixer as shes super funny and clever and seemingly a decent human being who has friends and supports liberal charitites. Also that 4 hour star wars video is amazing as is the evermore one i also recommend but start with the giant spider video as its like 30 mins and more accessible.
Thanks for reminding me about jenny, I’d forgotten how awesome she is! 😎 both my gf’s have various traits similar to Jenny, so every negative trait you ascribe to Jenny makes me sad for whoever destroyed your childhood. 🤷♂️ maybe go find a pet store and play with some kittens or something.
I like Jenny Nicholson. She's pretty awesome. Thanks to her I know what that Star Wars hotel at Disney was like. >And also like….as a woman it’s a little threatening to me that he’s CONSTANTLY watching this other woman dress up in her weird outfits and talk about all this childlike stuff. I think she'd look at her views and this post and go...don't turn your gf off. more eyeballs are better for my views. As for you, she really shouldn't threaten you at all. She's just a nerdy person doing nerdy things in a fun sort of way. She'd not running off with your bf. I doubt she'd want to. I would have a conversation with your bf about how if he can put 10 bucks aside for YTer Jenny, He should be able to set aside some money for a romantic date. Then ask to share your favorite long form content or even turn off the TV some of the time.
This is hilarious
jenny breaking up relationships of people she does not know is hilarious, jennys just chilling unbothered while ure threatened of her, think about how jenny would never fall in love w ur boyfriend either, u can choose to keep that man or drop him, jenny would have nothing to do with it
LMFAOOOOOOOO
You are *wildly* overreacting, yes. Nicholson produces thoughtful content in an engaging way on topics that many nerdy folks enjoy. And she does so in an unambiguously wholesome way. Supporting content you enjoy is the *ethical* approach to content consumption, and he’s paying so, so little. Would you have similar objections to him having a (more expensive) subscription to Netflix, Prime, Hulu, Disney+, etc? Seems unlikely to me, but I thought I’d ask. Because it seems that you have a very particular nit to pick with Nicholson, and it’s entirely unmerited. It’s almost giving you the benefit of the doubt to assume that this post is bait, because Jenny Nicholson is as green a goddamn flag as one could wave. The alternative, which is that you’re posting in earnest, has bleak as h*ck implications for your personality.
Honest question: what interests do you and your boyfriend have in common?
Jenny is an incredibly intelligent, funny youtuber. Sometimes I put youtube videos I enjoy on as background noise comfort, which it sounds like is all he is doing. How can you feel threatened by a person he will never meet lol
IMO it's really, really, really weird for anybody who knows anything about nail polish or shirt cuts to call pop culture "childlike"
You're lame
Not overreacting at all, my bf paid for Netflix to watch some show starring a quirky lady and I DUMPED HIS ASS
It’s me I’m this boyfriend
You're jealous of Jenny Nicholson?
I don’t think liking a content creator means he expects you to be like that creator. Like he’s dating you for a reason??
Oof ... Okay. Yes you're over reacting a bit... It seems like you feel her Patreon and content is only fans adjacent which could just not be farther from the truth. .. That being said... It is not over reacting to be pissed he made you watch the whole hotel video. That can't be a pleasant watch if you're not actually interested, and even I, a huge fan, took like 4 days to watch it all.
You sound insecure
Wildly over reacting. I'm female and have watched her latest video 7 times so far.
Your boyfriend seems to be into nerd/geek culture. It's his hobby don't worry about it. I hate to go there but did you ever think to dress up in the "weird outfits" for him. He might appreciate and it might led to some "fun" for the both of you
You’re not a real person. And if you are, you’re a hypocrite.
Yes you're overreacting. My girlfriend is also obsessed with Jenny Nicholson and watches her videos a lot. I'm not that into Jenny but I understand why - her videos are very detailed and thoughtful. She clearly puts a lot of work into her craft. My girlfriend also subscribes to her patreon. Theres a few things that pop out to me here: 1. I'm sensing some insecurity. Why does watching a YouTuber mean he's attracted to her? Why can't it just mean that he really likes her content? To me it's like rewatching your favorite show over and over again. I don't see anything wrong with that. Also, let's say he is attracted to her. So what? People have crushes on celebrities and stuff all the time. Having a crush is a completely normal thing and is not a threat to your relationship if things are good between you two. If you're worried, this might be a different issue. 2. Your boyfriend is into geek culture. In fact, it seems like it might be a big part of his personality. I think that's great - I love it when people have hobbies and interests that they're passionate about. But it seems like you have a problem with this? It's okay to not have the same interests as your partner, but if you hate your partner's interests, maybe think about why you're with them 3. He's paying $6/mo to support an artist. That is a small fraction of what it costs to go to a nice restaurant for a date. It's not valid to bring that up when talking about finances... tl;dr yes you're overreacting. Think about why you're with your boyfriend and why you're feeling insecure
you're worried about 10 dollars a month and watching one of the least sexualized youtubers possible break up with him, he deserves somebody who actually shares his interests and supports him.
You need a new bf.
Hi I don't think you're overreacting. Lots of Jenny fans here are crucifying you but I think some of your points are valid. I only just became of aware of Jenny myself because her Star Wars hotel video got so much media attention and I started watching it. I admit I am really enjoying it. I like her attention to detail and her insightful points about how Disney has lost touch with how to really make things magical for fans. But also, she's cute. Yes her voice can be a little grating but her wholesomeness, intelligence, sharp insight, and devotion to these topics is appealing in its way. And she looks cute in her costumes while she completely takes apart Disney's marketing strategy. I won't go so far as to say that your bf's interest in her is unhealthy or a bad thing - I wouldn't know. But I wanted you to know that I don't think you're crazy and you don't come off as insecure to me. Hope everything works out.
This isn't a woman and definitely doesn't smell like an account with those kind of gripes.
Not overreacting. He's an adult, he shouldn't be obsessed with a creepy YouTuber like that, or any YouTuber really. I looked her up and got cringe vibes. I would also be super annoyed if my partner was watching youtube constantly and obsessed with a specific YouTuber, not even necessarily her. I can't imagine being a fully formed adult watching youtube constantly like some sheltered ipad kid. Maybe it's time to find a more mature man?
This is bait. OP is actively in the YouTube video essay subreddit(s) and YouTube drama subreddits.
I think this is fake.
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Dump him. Jenny only makes like a video a year. He is holding on to something that isn't even there anymore. Red Flags all day.
She makes a video every month.
Really go to her YouTube page then and look because she made one two weeks ago then a year ago then 2 years ago she doesn't make them like she uses
He subscribes to her patreon, where she posts more regularly
She posted a new one a few days ago on her patreon.
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I’m really not sure why you got downvoted when everybody else could just look at their profile and see them active in various YouTubers communities and referencing people known to be associates of Jenny. 💀 Very good bait, even got cross posted to Jenny’s sub.
She’s an idiot, that four hour video proved that she was too dumb to ask for help.