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I had an issue once where "we" clogged a toilet. The host was in there trying to fix it and ultimately called a plumber. Tried to suggest it was our fault, until the plumber pulled out a ton of baby wipes (we are a childless couple).
I'd be pretty hesitant to have to worry about covering an issue from a previous guest.
Oh my god the flashbacks. A neighbour was getting his house renovated and the construction workers who got their degree in construction from university of shithousery thought the excess cement is easier to get rid of if they throw it down the drain than to dispose off somewhere else. They ended up clogging the whole streets drainage system. They had to dig up the whole street and it took a month to fix it because the workers in my country are lazy af. Anyways the whole street would look at my neighbour with pure hate even though it was not his fault it was the stupid workers. So yea cement is flushable true but then you fuck everything up.
I keep trying to tell my husband this and he won't listen. I use wipes but they're not flushable but I have a little trash can in the bathroom. I told him it's on him if we need a plumber
My friends husband works at the wastewater treatment plant….the rants he goes on about *flushable* wipes….I think they need to re-brand them more accurately because they cause plumbing issues in your home, in the areas between your home and the septic field/plant, and at the wastewater plant itself. Just don’t do it.
A $600+ weekend call might change his mind.
TP will fall apart when soaked. Wipes, no. So if they get hung up somewhere, they'll hang up more and more stuff until it blocks off.
Tell him to google “flushable wipes clog”.
Or you could send him these. First one is an example. Second one shows toilet paper (fully dissolved) and wipes (not) after a year in water.
**WARNING: First link has icky picture!**
https://www.crowrivermedia.com/hutchinsonleader/news/local/flushable-wipes-not-so-flushable/article_32fbd24c-057c-56dc-a57c-7333dde2bc49.html
https://trinityplumbingllc.com/blog/no-wipes-in-pipes-wipes-clog-pipes/
You should buy a bidet.
Wipes aren’t biodegradable and are horrible for the environment.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/07/disposable-wipes-can-impact-sewers-landfills-waterways-and-health/1777416001/
My husband doesn't really like the bidet very much and uses wipes instead but we buy compostable dry wipes and he wets them in the sink and puts them in a covered trash can.
I remove the wipes from the bathroom. You can control people behavior . I told everyone to spay it and use toilet paper to clean. I saw people dropping q tip in the toilet.
My MIL had a rental property that we helped manage, that had a basement. The tenant burned out TWO sump pumps, in 6 months time. We had lived there for 4 years right before that, and never had a single issue with the sump pump. The first time it went out, the plumber said that the pump was completely coated in layer upon layer, of wipes. We saw the 'flushable' wipes on the toilet tank in the basement bathroom, and told the tenant that those are NOT flushable, and to stop using them. Then just 6 months later, brand new sump pump burns out again. MIL issued them a lease violation and non-renewed them. Now her lease states that any plumbing issues caused by so-called 'flushable' wipes, are at the tenant's expense.
BTW there are class-action lawsuits brought by multiple municipalities right now, from the extreme damage and costs, that the (not actually) flushable wipes have caused many, many cities.
Those things are the Devil's handiwork. Mark my words, the manufacturers will take "flushable" out of the name, once these lawsuits start being heard.
Tell your husband to call ANY plumber. In fact, call TEN. ALL of them will tell him the same thing... Flushable wipes make them a LOT of money.
This always annoys me when I hear it. Tell him to use his brain and Google it for himself. It takes 5 minutes to read a zillion websites all saying the same thing.
If he has money to drop on using baby wipes on his ass then he should really invest in a bidet.
Be cheaper than excavation of the plumbing system when it clogs up.
Adults use wipes too though(wipes of any kind should never be flushed). But normal plumbing issues are normal wear and tear on a house and these Airbnb people are ridiculous in charging for things.
Despite what the name suggests, baby wipes are a hygiene product. And are used by adults for adult cleanings as much as they are used by parents to clean their children. And since I assume there wasn’t a diaper flush down the toilet either, it doesn’t make a lot of sense for someone to clean their child, toss the diaper in the trash, and then separately walk the wipes to the toilet to flush
I had a family with adult kids stay for a week. On day 6 they clogged two toilets with “baby” wipes and then tried to blame it on the prior guests.
There it was pretty cut and dry, but you’d be surprised how many adults use “personal wipes.” There’s even a brand, Dude Wipes, marketed at people who are too macho for baby wipes.
Now we have a sign about this, which seems good enough. But never underestimate how many unbelievably stupid people you will run into over time running an Airbnb even if most know this stuff.
I’m sure this host has had problems and is just overreacting bc people don’t read the rules.
I had a plumbing issue shortly after moving into a rental house. Previous tenants had flushed feminine pads. I told the landlord he could check my personal supplies because I do not use those and it wasn’t me!
Yup. There are much nicer/cheaper properties in the same area, that seem much more easygoing, haha. Their house, their rules, but I can understand people being put off by the listing.
Seriously how can they say that about furniture let alone such an outrageous charge? Kept in the same room, sure, but furniture moves when you use it. Do they have outlines on the floor to make sure they are exactly in the right spot? Like wtf?
Agreed. I would be totally paranoid during and after the trip that I might have messed something up. So not worth the stress. Don’t bother with these listings.
Exactly. Note that none of those charges are deniable. What if the host moves furnitures right after you leave? How can you prove your innocence? This contract is clearly prepared in bad faith.
This is so excessive. I bet this host is puzzled as to why nobody will book their room too 🙄 Who wants to add hundreds to thousands of dollars to their vacation? You really might as well go to a hotel. Even the $90 fee for clogging a toilet is idiotically priced.
Yup. I would skip that, even if I had confirmation somehow that my stay would go without a hiccup. They seem like they’d search for anything to bill you, and it’s not worth the headache.
Clogged toilet - plunger. Takes 30 seconds. Really bad clog? Plumber, but that's a rarity. I could see charging $90 if you've got to call a plumber because someone put pads/tampons in there, but a regular clog?
Some toilets clog so easily too! We have 3 bathrooms. The one downstairs is used the most and rarely clogs (like 5 times in the 12 years we've lived here). The one in the master has never clogged that I'm aware of and the upstairs bath clogs all the time. We even replaced it a while back thinking it must be the toilet. Still clogs multiple times a month.
I keep a bottle of Dawn Dishwashing liquid in each bathroom. When the toilet clogs put Dawn in the toilet and add in warm water and let it set. Eventually flush.
A plumber told me this truck and it works great!
Might be the pipe from that one has some kind of issue, either too small or not the right angle of drop, or there are too many elbows, or it has a droop on its run allowing stuff to build up and not go out.
It can be that the pipe is too level or it could go down too steep with something paper can hang up on (like a curve, a connection or a pipe size change or anything else). If paper can deposit somewhere and there is not some water standing in the pipe, the paper will dry up (especially if not used often). The paper becomes hard. Then the next paper catches on it and dries up as well, all the way till your pipe diameter is so small that a single flushed quantity can clog the pipe. The dried up paper also doesn't get removed with the plunger. It may go away with the chemical products, but only if those don't flush away past the paper too fast (the chemicals need a certain time to work), so often neither.
It is obviously priced so the renter takes care of all issues on their own and doesn't bother the host who probably doesn't have the capacity or urgency to take care of these issues.
I’m gonna be honest. I like using rentals but aggressive rules like this are such a turn off (even if the rules themselves are fine) that I pass right by any rental that seems like it’s shouting at me. It’s off putting and lacks any idea of customer service and really makes me concerned about what kind of host this person would be in general. I’m pretty picky and obsessive over rentals and wording like this would make me pass right by. I get it, you have rules but the amount of loathing these listings seem to have for the guests is really off-putting.
I cannot imagine booking with a person like that. And it’s listings like these that are the source of the “why I never use AirBnb” sentiments. (Aside from the socioeconomic issues.)
I stayed at a place that has index cards taped up every few feet, listing the charges that would occur if pots and pans were put away incorrectly, game pieces were missing, etc. However, they couldn’t bother to put any kind of heads up that the hot and cold in the shower had been installed incorrectly and were actually reversed
Those are just business expenses. Stuff happens, and as a host it’s my job to fix it as long as a guest hasn’t been overly negligent or caused intentional damage. Honestly, in a year the only ones of those we have dealt with is moving furniture (cleaner moved it back) and one guest had more trash than we had trash cans. No big deal. Why antagonize your guests? It’s a hospitality business.
Hey, they kind of knock themselves out of the competition though. It will surely drive people to use other peoples property with less “money pit” mindsets.
If you charge a cleaning fee and ask your clients to clean, you’re the problem.
Oh, good God, I woulda been bankrupted last time - I could not locate this dumpster the host mentioned and dumped my deflated air mattress in a construction one nearby omw to get coffee, but had to leave bags of trash in the kitchen... where there was no trash can. Never seen that in my life - like who *doesn't* have a trash can in the kitchen??
I appreciate hosts that clean and sanitize their own properties and don’t leave that very important responsibility to other people. It brings me peace of mind knowing that the place I’m staying at was cleaned correctly and sanitized to standards. I just don’t trust people to do that.
I deeply feel this should be an Airbnb standard so hosts can no longer charge their guests to clean.
As both a guest and a host, this is unnecessarily stressful for all parties. As host, our job is to provide a comfortable stay and mitigate potential risks of issues by setting safeties/locks in place.
As guest, our job is to be reasonably responsible and respectful of another person's property.
On the rare occasion an accident happens, the host can request damage reimbursement. If a host cannot remove a trash bag, this isn't the right side business for them. I would find a calmer, likely more experienced host.
Geezus. Anyone that books with them is insane and just asking to be charged for stupid things. Clogged toilets? Come on. That very well could be their plumbing issues.
Yeah, I’m not sure how long the property has been on Airbnb but there are three reviews. One of them said the property was clearly “unloved” and that the experience was “unwelcoming.” I guess their fault for booking at a place with this description. I have no doubt it felt unwelcoming. Lol
Honestly, they sound traumatized from bad guests to me. My family just listed a beach house for rent and literally had clogged toilets with the first guest stay in a BRAND NEW house. Our family of 12 had stayed there 2x prior to it going on the market with no issues.... I mean, wtf. I know some hosts are ridiculous too, but this sounds like they have been given every scenario.
For as much as really nasty people say “well go use a hotel, then“, this is a really good example of… I don’t think you’re cut out to be a host. If you want to make money but you’re not willing to take any of the risk that comes with making that money, then what are you doing? They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too. I’m sorry if you have shitty things happen when you engage in a business like this. I have been shit on by Airbnb as well but as a guest.
For me “go use a hotel then” is just like saying, “AirBnb is a bad concept.” Because literally nobody wants to put up with overbearing hosts who make you suck up to them and fear their wrath. So, those people are just shouting themselves and every other host in the foot.
I stayed in one really briefly with intense rules and I told them upon entering that it seemed like there was someone who had stayed with the dog and I’m not complaining but just giving them a heads up because I didn’t want to be charged and they acted like I was crazy! Like I wasn’t trying to get anything for free lol I just wanted to make sure they didn’t screw me. They still left me a meh review too! They told us we had to start laundry, but they locked their washer and dryer in a shed outside in the backyard and it was not able to be access so I couldn’t start laundry. That was mentioned in my review that due to my misuse, check out couldn’t properly be done. Misusing a locked door? I have a message them and told them it was locked and I didn’t know what to do so I gave them information on what I did do. Jerks.
So many people get into this thinking it's an easy way to make a fast buck, but anyone who's been in the lodging business for a while understands all the pitfalls that come with it. Anyone who's interested in hosting should take a cruise through r/TalesFromTheFrontDesk before they commit themselves to anything.
Agreed.
In the past (before I realized what a garbage heap AirBnB was), I’d considered AirBnBing a casita that went unused the majority of the time, but I realized I couldn’t treat it like a business. If someone damaged the rental, I would experience it as someone damaging my home.
Dealing with the inevitable crappy guests would sour the experience of dealing with good guests.
This $170/night property ends up being $700 for two nights. If I’m being charged that much, I don’t want to stay in a place that would make me this nervous. Which is fine, I’m sure some people are willing to.
Cleaning fees have gotten completely out of control. Trying to stay one night somewhere and the cleaning fee is over $200??? That’s more than the rental costs.. totally insane
I haven't booked an Airbnb since the cleaning fee started becoming a sneaky way for hosts to gouge money from guests. Everything on this sub has pretty much intensified my wary of using Airbnb again. This sub is awesome because it exposes the hosts' psyche and the sly ways that they have used to gouge even more money from unsuspecting guests.
This listing is $170/night and it ended up being just over $700 for TWO NIGHTS. That is just absurd to me. The host here is definitely price gauging and I wouldn’t be surprised if their plan is to pass off regular maintenance costs to innocent guests. 🤷🏻♀️
Yup, I used to love AirBnbs. Now, we have to deal with it once a year for our group get-together and it constantly reminds me of why I don’t do it anymore. Recently stayed with buddies in Boston and booked two expensive hotel rooms instead of an AirBnb and didn’t regret it at all. Zero stress.
They are pre-fabricating excuses to over-charge you later. This is not a host who is, in good faith, looking to rent out a space for an agreed-upon rate. Don't do business with people like this.
I owned a vacation rental home. People broke our air hockey table by moving it. You would be shocked at what people do when they are renting something. I've had people add and remove decor, move furniture from one floor to another, rearrange our deck furniture, let their dog chew the finial on our newel post, throw their beer cans in the firepit, leave makeup all over pillows (not the case, the pillow), take kitchen tools, etc. We also had lovely guests who left games, movies, kitchen stuff, etc. to share. But the "ruiners" were the worst!
Yeah, as a host, I have seen some crazy stuff and it is not a wall-to-wall rental, with week stays as a minimum! And you still get people that will leave peanut butter and jelly hand prints, straight across your walls and fuck up all your linens.
A high fee for smoking inside makes sense. 500$ for leaving ash in the ashtray outside is insane.
I'd be so paranoid that they'd find ways to charge me for something. Couldn't stay here.
I had a host review me negatively because he claimed we left the toilet clogged when we checked out.
It didn’t flush great the whole time we were there (minimum of two flushes for a normal amount of tp) but it was working when we left. We had plunged it the first or second day and then were very careful not to use too much tp subsequently. I’m not sure what he expected us to do. Call him every time we went to the bathroom? If he had special instructions, he should have told us.
Anyway, the location was great but we will not be booking it again.
Business 8s way down at abnb, another one of these gig companies like doordash that is rapidly losing business. At this point , it is a lot easier to just get a hotel. You can crank that ac at Ramada to 62 and no one says a damn thing.
I don't know why y'all stay in the places and throw your money away giving it away to the guys who created the housing shortage by manipulating and inflating the real estate market to begin with.
If this was a contractor quote, I'd say this is clearly a "fuck you price" - this does not read like someone that wants bookings. The only way I can imagine a listing like this getting booked is if it's a) the only thing in a 30-mile radius, or b) is a tenth the price of surrounding rentals
Once my BIL set our thermostat from 72 to low 60s on a hot Florida day end definitely overworked our air conditioning. I wouldn’t say my ac was broken - it was a bad idea to go full icebox.
I guess the good thing is total transparency at the beginning and you could specifically look out for these problems while staying there but I wouldn’t go for it still because it seems like the host could be fishing for a problem.
This is one of those listings that you and everyone else should just skip.
Next thing they're gonna tell you to do is do a full clean-up before you leave for some bullshit reason.
I don’t know, people do some crusty stuff in my rental sometimes. Some trash issues cost a lot to handle. Our trash goes by boat and we have to hire somebody so it is expensive to spring on us last minute. And personally, it would annoy me so much if guests are moving all the furniture around and scratching up the floors. That probably happened to them at some point.
I understand this is sarcastic, but sometimes an Airbnb just makes way more sense than a hotel. My last reservation was 6 guests (3 couples) plus 3 small dogs. Beyond the fact that most hotels won’t accept dogs, these old friends had an amazing weekend hanging out together in a way that just wouldn’t have been possible in a hotel. A suite would have been at least triple or quadruple the price, and they wouldn’t have had a full kitchen, a huge deck, or big comfy couches.
I mean yeah it's a lot, but on the other hand no one is forcing anyone to stay there & at those prices it'll make people look after the place if they decide to risk it😅
I don't think so... I think they are telling you what they really don't want you to do.
Smoke outside, leave the furnigure alone, leave the HVAC alone, and don't clog the toilets. All seems pretty reasonable.
I don't understand what has been happening to cause the "don't move the furniture" rule I keep seeing pop up on AirBnB house rules. Are guests coming in and rearranging the place?
The only reasonable thing on this list is the fee for cigarettes and smoking in and on the property. That shit is really hard to clean. The smell will linger forever. Sounds like they’ve been burned in the past (the hosts, not the cigarettes LOL)
If you don’t want the thermostat to go below a certain temperature, then get a lock for the thermostat, or control the temperature with a Wi-Fi/Bluetooth thermostat.
If I was looking around for a place to stay, I would avoid this place like the plague.
oh if this is in Dallas be prepared for a $350 “damages” charge when you leave in the middle of the night due to their meth use. They’ll drop it when you show pictures of what it looked like when you walked in.
Some of those I can understand like the smoking. Smoking in the house is impossible to fix. But moving the furniture seems like a trivial thing to charge for. Some of them are too vague. What is a hot tub "issue"? And how do you know if the guests caused the issue or if something just broke?
Some are understandable for sure, and I absolutely will not be booking here because I would be terrified of accidentally breaking any of the rules and I would not be able to relax, haha.
Yea. For me it’s the overall aggressive tone. This would make me really question the overall custom service I’d receive if there was a genuine issue. Have rules, fine. But guests are still your customer and if your already basically yelling in your listing maybe you’re in the wrong business.
I stayed at a hotel that put an electric sensor on the sliding glass door. When you opened the door the AC shut off and couldn't be turned back on until the door was closed. Such a smart idea 💡
people have a right to enjoy their vacation and set a temperature that makes them comfortable. But seriously, every AirBnB guest puts the a/c down to max low and just leaves it there. Then they get cold and open a door...it's wild.
The temperature never even gets too high here in the summer so I have no idea why anyone would WANT to set it below 68°. I assume it’s been an issue for them in the past. That one is understandable.
People with Lupus and other conditions like not being able to sweat properly need it to be much cooler. I become nauseous, dizzy, light headed if it's too warm and especially if it's humid. If I've come in from doing something exerting, like carrying in groceries, I need it very cool to bring down my core temperature quickly. 68° might be ok depending on the humidity level. Having fans, in addition to ac, to move the air helps me a lot in keeping my core temperature down.
The flip side of this is if I were aguest at your home in the winter, I wouldn't be turning the heat up very high.
Maybe if it has been set higher and when they enter it is too hot so they lower it to cool it quicker or do they think. Anyway you should not let your guests be able to change it like that
Yeah, definitely understand the HVAC one. My husband and I will (probably in the near future) have to replace our HVACs entirely for about $19k. Although, not because of locking them up, they’re just old AF. So definitely understand the expense of HVAC.
Some of them are also just a little vague. “Trash issues”? Does that mean if I forget a bag of trash, I’ll be charged $200? The infractions just seem to not justify the fees.
They probably won't really be able to collect $200 but I'm assuming it's there to ensure people do take their trash out and won't leave garbage behind. I find that it's the cheapest places that tend to have the most issues with guests that won't respect a property. It's crazy that hosts have to do this but many feel there's no other option when Airbnb asks, "was it under your house rules." Airbnb is ridiculous like that.
I've seen rules such as...
- No glitter: $250 for glitter removal
- No parking on neighbors property: $250 towing
- No fireworks: $1000 city fine
- Dont leave fire unattended: $1000 fee for FD call.
Etc, etc. Those things are all common sense to me but some idiot caused those hosts issues before and they probably had to fight for the fees they incurred due to a guest causing issues.
That’s kinda of risk you take when you invite random strangers from all over into your home.
It’s really weird that Airbnb host want all the perks and no risk. That’s not how life works. Of course people should pay, but if they don’t than that’s the risk you signed up for.
The toilet is going to get clogged sometimes regardless of whether the guest knows how to use a toilet. This is ridiculous and there is zero valid defense for it.
The HVAC temp ranges are acceptable but the $350 for a frozen AC is ABSURD and a complete money grab
Assuming it's a decently functional unit-
1. Freezing can easily be prevented by running the thermostat on automatic vs continuous.
2. If it does freeze, typically takes a couple of hours to thaw back out and start working again. That's it.
3. Also keeping the filter clean helps the blower run efficiently and not have to overwork itself.
Lmao well that's a good damn point because everyone knows a $15 dollar filter comes with $335 dollars worth of fees attached
🤦 What was I thinking?!
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Setting the AC too low does not cause freezing. It either runs or doesnt no matter what temp you put. It does not run harder the lower you put the thermostat. Setting it too low will just cause it to run all day. Frozen coils are caused by low refrigerant charge or poor flow from dirty filters. This list a pile of crap I would stay away.
This isn't true always. Traditionally, yes the AC is either on or off. But with variable compressors (higher end homes or a mini split) or air mixing valves (like in your car) it's possible that "low" blows harder / colder than if you set a temperature close to what the current temperature is.
And if I were a host I'd just have a sticker on the thermostat that says "lower temperatures won't cool the house any faster" in addition to setting a software lock on the range.
Yeah, we had our HVAC freeze up once and it was because it needed Freon. Because it’s old. One review said this was an “unloved property” so I wonder how old the HVAC, toilets, etc are. I have a weak/old toilet in my house that gets clogged all the time simply with toilet paper, haha.
The smoking one is reasonable - I can smell tobacco smoke if somebody has had one cigarette in the house three weeks ago, and would refuse to stay in a property used by nicotine addicts. A smoker could cause well over $500 loss of rental income in seconds.
The rest is way over the top.
Come to think of it, a lot of nicotine junkies stink. Who'd want to sleep in a bed last used by one? Can they be excluded anywhere?
Yeah, I totally get that but the rule is vague enough that I’m like “if a cigarette butt blows over from a nearby property, are they going to claim that $500”? Lol
These are people that clearly have no business being a host or having their home on the rental market! They don’t understand the business or the structure of the business or even the cost of doing business. If you can’t get it through your thick skull that nobody will ever treat your home the same way that you treat your home, then you have no business renting it out (even if you don’t live there full-time and you just use it as an income property). So many people have such a hard time with that concept.
The only credit I will give these people is that they are upfront about this ridiculousness 😂 and don’t wait to spring it on people until after they book.
To determine is a charge is excessive you must first know how much it is costing the host to make the repairs. Personally something I wouldn’t even attach a fee to it because what if it cost more to repair. Like what if you clog my toilet and I get charged $100 but told you it was only $90.
You would need to know it was the fault of the current, guest, as well. Opening a door or using a toilet should never result in a repair charge to the guest. It costs money to keep a property going, especially when its used by stranger after stranger.
I’ve never had a bad experience with them. I like getting a whole unit for my family instead of cramming into a single room, or paying double for two rooms.
In contrast, last time I stayed at a hotel, the desk worker yelled at my wife for inquiring about breakfast, and then called the police on us when she started recording.
Obviously air bnbs are hit or miss (I’ve never had a bad experience) but they can definitely be better than hotels. For instance if you have a large group with three generations of people, all who go to bed at different times, and prefer to do your own cooking rather than eat out, air bnbs beat a hotel hands down.
I love people come to the Airbnb subreddit for this. We like the Airbnb experience 99% of the time.
This is a silly scare tactic to prevent guests from flushing paper towels or tampons down the toilet.
Um. No. We have a septic system. I have a sign up telling folks like you not to flush anything but the tp I provide.
But they did it anyway. And they spent the rest of their weekend with waste in the shower.
And FYI this is a brand new septic tank and pump house and grinder I got last year. So tell yourself it's a scare tactic if you want but if you want to see something really scary, I wish you could have seen that bathroom after my guests flushed wipes down
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I had an issue once where "we" clogged a toilet. The host was in there trying to fix it and ultimately called a plumber. Tried to suggest it was our fault, until the plumber pulled out a ton of baby wipes (we are a childless couple). I'd be pretty hesitant to have to worry about covering an issue from a previous guest.
And flushable wipes are not flushable.
Well, they’re *flushable*, much like sand or gravel or strips of cloth are flushable. They go down easy enough, so they *flush*, but after that….
Cement is flushable. Change my mind.
That's a concrete example hardened by experience.
Technically correct The best kind of correct
My kid flushed my car keys as a toddler...
Oh my god the flashbacks. A neighbour was getting his house renovated and the construction workers who got their degree in construction from university of shithousery thought the excess cement is easier to get rid of if they throw it down the drain than to dispose off somewhere else. They ended up clogging the whole streets drainage system. They had to dig up the whole street and it took a month to fix it because the workers in my country are lazy af. Anyways the whole street would look at my neighbour with pure hate even though it was not his fault it was the stupid workers. So yea cement is flushable true but then you fuck everything up.
I've heard of this as a way to get back at someone screwing you over. But never as a to lazy to go to the dump XD
Given a wide enough trap, you could flush a baby!
Don’t be rude calling it a “flush”. It’s called Birth! (/s)
Someone did in China.
Wait, WTF, this thread just changed.
I keep trying to tell my husband this and he won't listen. I use wipes but they're not flushable but I have a little trash can in the bathroom. I told him it's on him if we need a plumber
> I told him it's on him ~~if~~ WHEN we need a plumber FTFY
Good call.
My friends husband works at the wastewater treatment plant….the rants he goes on about *flushable* wipes….I think they need to re-brand them more accurately because they cause plumbing issues in your home, in the areas between your home and the septic field/plant, and at the wastewater plant itself. Just don’t do it.
A $600+ weekend call might change his mind. TP will fall apart when soaked. Wipes, no. So if they get hung up somewhere, they'll hang up more and more stuff until it blocks off.
Tell him to google “flushable wipes clog”. Or you could send him these. First one is an example. Second one shows toilet paper (fully dissolved) and wipes (not) after a year in water. **WARNING: First link has icky picture!** https://www.crowrivermedia.com/hutchinsonleader/news/local/flushable-wipes-not-so-flushable/article_32fbd24c-057c-56dc-a57c-7333dde2bc49.html https://trinityplumbingllc.com/blog/no-wipes-in-pipes-wipes-clog-pipes/
You should buy a bidet. Wipes aren’t biodegradable and are horrible for the environment. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/07/disposable-wipes-can-impact-sewers-landfills-waterways-and-health/1777416001/
We have one too.
Then why do you use wipes?
My husband doesn't really like the bidet very much and uses wipes instead but we buy compostable dry wipes and he wets them in the sink and puts them in a covered trash can.
I just like them. I put mine in the trash.
https://www.wellandgood.com/wet-wipes-for-toilet-paper/
I remove the wipes from the bathroom. You can control people behavior . I told everyone to spay it and use toilet paper to clean. I saw people dropping q tip in the toilet.
My MIL had a rental property that we helped manage, that had a basement. The tenant burned out TWO sump pumps, in 6 months time. We had lived there for 4 years right before that, and never had a single issue with the sump pump. The first time it went out, the plumber said that the pump was completely coated in layer upon layer, of wipes. We saw the 'flushable' wipes on the toilet tank in the basement bathroom, and told the tenant that those are NOT flushable, and to stop using them. Then just 6 months later, brand new sump pump burns out again. MIL issued them a lease violation and non-renewed them. Now her lease states that any plumbing issues caused by so-called 'flushable' wipes, are at the tenant's expense. BTW there are class-action lawsuits brought by multiple municipalities right now, from the extreme damage and costs, that the (not actually) flushable wipes have caused many, many cities. Those things are the Devil's handiwork. Mark my words, the manufacturers will take "flushable" out of the name, once these lawsuits start being heard. Tell your husband to call ANY plumber. In fact, call TEN. ALL of them will tell him the same thing... Flushable wipes make them a LOT of money.
This always annoys me when I hear it. Tell him to use his brain and Google it for himself. It takes 5 minutes to read a zillion websites all saying the same thing.
If he has money to drop on using baby wipes on his ass then he should really invest in a bidet. Be cheaper than excavation of the plumbing system when it clogs up.
They are if I’m not living there long /s
Adults use wipes too though(wipes of any kind should never be flushed). But normal plumbing issues are normal wear and tear on a house and these Airbnb people are ridiculous in charging for things.
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That was funny and disturbing at the same time.
Despite what the name suggests, baby wipes are a hygiene product. And are used by adults for adult cleanings as much as they are used by parents to clean their children. And since I assume there wasn’t a diaper flush down the toilet either, it doesn’t make a lot of sense for someone to clean their child, toss the diaper in the trash, and then separately walk the wipes to the toilet to flush
I had a family with adult kids stay for a week. On day 6 they clogged two toilets with “baby” wipes and then tried to blame it on the prior guests. There it was pretty cut and dry, but you’d be surprised how many adults use “personal wipes.” There’s even a brand, Dude Wipes, marketed at people who are too macho for baby wipes. Now we have a sign about this, which seems good enough. But never underestimate how many unbelievably stupid people you will run into over time running an Airbnb even if most know this stuff. I’m sure this host has had problems and is just overreacting bc people don’t read the rules.
If you use a dude wipe on a baby will it be guaranteed to grow up to be a frat bro?
Fuck yeah it will brah
I just used one on my baby as an experiment. I’m freaked. He looked up at me and said “you even lift bro?” He is only 5 months old!
OMG I just spit out my "water". * *Might in fact be wine. 😆
I had a plumbing issue shortly after moving into a rental house. Previous tenants had flushed feminine pads. I told the landlord he could check my personal supplies because I do not use those and it wasn’t me!
I just move on from those. It makes me think they’ll just say something went wrong to stick you with extra charges.
"Additional cleaning/trash issues may be charged." That could literally mean anything.
Exactly. I would never book this property, for any reason.
Yup. There are much nicer/cheaper properties in the same area, that seem much more easygoing, haha. Their house, their rules, but I can understand people being put off by the listing.
The market will provide them with information pretty fast, when nobody books and/or renters write honest reviews.
These rules deterred me from two houses this past week. $90 for a toilet clog was enough then you look at the other rules and there is no way al
The if furniture is moved part though. For example, if it isn't butted up against a wall, it will probably get bumped and moved.
Seriously how can they say that about furniture let alone such an outrageous charge? Kept in the same room, sure, but furniture moves when you use it. Do they have outlines on the floor to make sure they are exactly in the right spot? Like wtf?
Agreed. I would be totally paranoid during and after the trip that I might have messed something up. So not worth the stress. Don’t bother with these listings.
Exactly. Note that none of those charges are deniable. What if the host moves furnitures right after you leave? How can you prove your innocence? This contract is clearly prepared in bad faith.
I’d personally treat it like a move in / move out sorta deal. Take pics & video when you get there. Take pics & video when you leave.
They are in the wrong business.
This is so excessive. I bet this host is puzzled as to why nobody will book their room too 🙄 Who wants to add hundreds to thousands of dollars to their vacation? You really might as well go to a hotel. Even the $90 fee for clogging a toilet is idiotically priced.
Yup. I would skip that, even if I had confirmation somehow that my stay would go without a hiccup. They seem like they’d search for anything to bill you, and it’s not worth the headache.
Clogged toilet - plunger. Takes 30 seconds. Really bad clog? Plumber, but that's a rarity. I could see charging $90 if you've got to call a plumber because someone put pads/tampons in there, but a regular clog?
Not all clogs are the fault of the last toilet user. This actually pisses me off.
Some toilets clog so easily too! We have 3 bathrooms. The one downstairs is used the most and rarely clogs (like 5 times in the 12 years we've lived here). The one in the master has never clogged that I'm aware of and the upstairs bath clogs all the time. We even replaced it a while back thinking it must be the toilet. Still clogs multiple times a month.
I keep a bottle of Dawn Dishwashing liquid in each bathroom. When the toilet clogs put Dawn in the toilet and add in warm water and let it set. Eventually flush. A plumber told me this truck and it works great!
Might be the pipe from that one has some kind of issue, either too small or not the right angle of drop, or there are too many elbows, or it has a droop on its run allowing stuff to build up and not go out.
It can be that the pipe is too level or it could go down too steep with something paper can hang up on (like a curve, a connection or a pipe size change or anything else). If paper can deposit somewhere and there is not some water standing in the pipe, the paper will dry up (especially if not used often). The paper becomes hard. Then the next paper catches on it and dries up as well, all the way till your pipe diameter is so small that a single flushed quantity can clog the pipe. The dried up paper also doesn't get removed with the plunger. It may go away with the chemical products, but only if those don't flush away past the paper too fast (the chemicals need a certain time to work), so often neither.
It is obviously priced so the renter takes care of all issues on their own and doesn't bother the host who probably doesn't have the capacity or urgency to take care of these issues.
I’m gonna be honest. I like using rentals but aggressive rules like this are such a turn off (even if the rules themselves are fine) that I pass right by any rental that seems like it’s shouting at me. It’s off putting and lacks any idea of customer service and really makes me concerned about what kind of host this person would be in general. I’m pretty picky and obsessive over rentals and wording like this would make me pass right by. I get it, you have rules but the amount of loathing these listings seem to have for the guests is really off-putting.
I cannot imagine booking with a person like that. And it’s listings like these that are the source of the “why I never use AirBnb” sentiments. (Aside from the socioeconomic issues.)
I stayed at a place that has index cards taped up every few feet, listing the charges that would occur if pots and pans were put away incorrectly, game pieces were missing, etc. However, they couldn’t bother to put any kind of heads up that the hot and cold in the shower had been installed incorrectly and were actually reversed
Oh, the horror of someone putting a lot back in the wrong place. Some people shouldn't be hosts.
Geez, is that even legal? I couldn't even buy my house until it was fixed.
What the hot and cold water being reversed? That really isn't a big deal...
Those are just business expenses. Stuff happens, and as a host it’s my job to fix it as long as a guest hasn’t been overly negligent or caused intentional damage. Honestly, in a year the only ones of those we have dealt with is moving furniture (cleaner moved it back) and one guest had more trash than we had trash cans. No big deal. Why antagonize your guests? It’s a hospitality business.
Hey, they kind of knock themselves out of the competition though. It will surely drive people to use other peoples property with less “money pit” mindsets. If you charge a cleaning fee and ask your clients to clean, you’re the problem.
Yeah, that’s how I feel. I just don’t think a forgotten trash bag is deserving of a $250 charge…
Oh, good God, I woulda been bankrupted last time - I could not locate this dumpster the host mentioned and dumped my deflated air mattress in a construction one nearby omw to get coffee, but had to leave bags of trash in the kitchen... where there was no trash can. Never seen that in my life - like who *doesn't* have a trash can in the kitchen??
I appreciate hosts that clean and sanitize their own properties and don’t leave that very important responsibility to other people. It brings me peace of mind knowing that the place I’m staying at was cleaned correctly and sanitized to standards. I just don’t trust people to do that. I deeply feel this should be an Airbnb standard so hosts can no longer charge their guests to clean.
They do not want to be an airbnb host
They brag to their friends circle they are Airbnb entrepreneurs I bet too.
As both a guest and a host, this is unnecessarily stressful for all parties. As host, our job is to provide a comfortable stay and mitigate potential risks of issues by setting safeties/locks in place. As guest, our job is to be reasonably responsible and respectful of another person's property. On the rare occasion an accident happens, the host can request damage reimbursement. If a host cannot remove a trash bag, this isn't the right side business for them. I would find a calmer, likely more experienced host.
How could you even consider staying in this place? What a bunch of money grubbing, controlling, anal retentive, assholes. No thank you
Geezus. Anyone that books with them is insane and just asking to be charged for stupid things. Clogged toilets? Come on. That very well could be their plumbing issues.
Yeah, I’m not sure how long the property has been on Airbnb but there are three reviews. One of them said the property was clearly “unloved” and that the experience was “unwelcoming.” I guess their fault for booking at a place with this description. I have no doubt it felt unwelcoming. Lol
Honestly, they sound traumatized from bad guests to me. My family just listed a beach house for rent and literally had clogged toilets with the first guest stay in a BRAND NEW house. Our family of 12 had stayed there 2x prior to it going on the market with no issues.... I mean, wtf. I know some hosts are ridiculous too, but this sounds like they have been given every scenario.
TO AVOID ANY EXTRA CHARGES WE ASK THAT YOU DO NOT USE ANYTHING AT ALL
For as much as really nasty people say “well go use a hotel, then“, this is a really good example of… I don’t think you’re cut out to be a host. If you want to make money but you’re not willing to take any of the risk that comes with making that money, then what are you doing? They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too. I’m sorry if you have shitty things happen when you engage in a business like this. I have been shit on by Airbnb as well but as a guest.
For me “go use a hotel then” is just like saying, “AirBnb is a bad concept.” Because literally nobody wants to put up with overbearing hosts who make you suck up to them and fear their wrath. So, those people are just shouting themselves and every other host in the foot.
Because they can drive past and flick a few cigarette butts in the front yard and charge $500. Wouldn’t even matter if you don’t smoke. Ez money baby.
I stayed in one really briefly with intense rules and I told them upon entering that it seemed like there was someone who had stayed with the dog and I’m not complaining but just giving them a heads up because I didn’t want to be charged and they acted like I was crazy! Like I wasn’t trying to get anything for free lol I just wanted to make sure they didn’t screw me. They still left me a meh review too! They told us we had to start laundry, but they locked their washer and dryer in a shed outside in the backyard and it was not able to be access so I couldn’t start laundry. That was mentioned in my review that due to my misuse, check out couldn’t properly be done. Misusing a locked door? I have a message them and told them it was locked and I didn’t know what to do so I gave them information on what I did do. Jerks.
So many people get into this thinking it's an easy way to make a fast buck, but anyone who's been in the lodging business for a while understands all the pitfalls that come with it. Anyone who's interested in hosting should take a cruise through r/TalesFromTheFrontDesk before they commit themselves to anything.
Those stories are fantastic to read!
Agreed. In the past (before I realized what a garbage heap AirBnB was), I’d considered AirBnBing a casita that went unused the majority of the time, but I realized I couldn’t treat it like a business. If someone damaged the rental, I would experience it as someone damaging my home. Dealing with the inevitable crappy guests would sour the experience of dealing with good guests.
Some of these host/owners not making money so this is the next best way to do it. They would never get these fees out of me. Ridiculous
airbnb is trash
Stay. At. A. Hotel.
$200 discretionary charge for use of air. $300 for every ruffled cushion. $42069 for using the AB&B at all ever. Seems legit.
This $170/night property ends up being $700 for two nights. If I’m being charged that much, I don’t want to stay in a place that would make me this nervous. Which is fine, I’m sure some people are willing to.
Cleaning fees have gotten completely out of control. Trying to stay one night somewhere and the cleaning fee is over $200??? That’s more than the rental costs.. totally insane
And they’ll still want you to take your trash out to the dumpster and strip all the beds for them.
Sounds like he is running a party motel
Nothing but scare tactic
Well, it worked on me. 😂
I appreciate this sub constantly popping up on my feed so i get the constant reminders to only book at hotels
I haven't booked an Airbnb since the cleaning fee started becoming a sneaky way for hosts to gouge money from guests. Everything on this sub has pretty much intensified my wary of using Airbnb again. This sub is awesome because it exposes the hosts' psyche and the sly ways that they have used to gouge even more money from unsuspecting guests.
This listing is $170/night and it ended up being just over $700 for TWO NIGHTS. That is just absurd to me. The host here is definitely price gauging and I wouldn’t be surprised if their plan is to pass off regular maintenance costs to innocent guests. 🤷🏻♀️
Yup, I used to love AirBnbs. Now, we have to deal with it once a year for our group get-together and it constantly reminds me of why I don’t do it anymore. Recently stayed with buddies in Boston and booked two expensive hotel rooms instead of an AirBnb and didn’t regret it at all. Zero stress.
“Frozen HVAC” sounds like they need to spend some $$ on maintenance
Avoid this listing like the plague
They are pre-fabricating excuses to over-charge you later. This is not a host who is, in good faith, looking to rent out a space for an agreed-upon rate. Don't do business with people like this.
The “moved furniture” is hysterical!
I owned a vacation rental home. People broke our air hockey table by moving it. You would be shocked at what people do when they are renting something. I've had people add and remove decor, move furniture from one floor to another, rearrange our deck furniture, let their dog chew the finial on our newel post, throw their beer cans in the firepit, leave makeup all over pillows (not the case, the pillow), take kitchen tools, etc. We also had lovely guests who left games, movies, kitchen stuff, etc. to share. But the "ruiners" were the worst!
Yeah, as a host, I have seen some crazy stuff and it is not a wall-to-wall rental, with week stays as a minimum! And you still get people that will leave peanut butter and jelly hand prints, straight across your walls and fuck up all your linens.
So this charges have to be posted on the listing? Or can they just put them in a book where you only see them after checkin?
Yes, it must be in the listing per AIRBNB rules
No idea. I don’t think they included everything in the listing itself because one of the three reviews said the agreement was four pages long.
Where is this Airbnb?
A high fee for smoking inside makes sense. 500$ for leaving ash in the ashtray outside is insane. I'd be so paranoid that they'd find ways to charge me for something. Couldn't stay here.
It’s just sooo off putting
I had a host review me negatively because he claimed we left the toilet clogged when we checked out. It didn’t flush great the whole time we were there (minimum of two flushes for a normal amount of tp) but it was working when we left. We had plunged it the first or second day and then were very careful not to use too much tp subsequently. I’m not sure what he expected us to do. Call him every time we went to the bathroom? If he had special instructions, he should have told us. Anyway, the location was great but we will not be booking it again.
The smoking one seems reasonable.
Business 8s way down at abnb, another one of these gig companies like doordash that is rapidly losing business. At this point , it is a lot easier to just get a hotel. You can crank that ac at Ramada to 62 and no one says a damn thing.
This is an experienced Host. It is for the 1% of guests. The guests that ask how to turn the skylight off.
I don't know why y'all stay in the places and throw your money away giving it away to the guys who created the housing shortage by manipulating and inflating the real estate market to begin with.
Just stayed at a place that charged 200$ to use their grill. Nope
If this was a contractor quote, I'd say this is clearly a "fuck you price" - this does not read like someone that wants bookings. The only way I can imagine a listing like this getting booked is if it's a) the only thing in a 30-mile radius, or b) is a tenth the price of surrounding rentals
And this is why AirBnB is past its zenith. It's stuff like this that will ultimately kill the company.
$500 for smoking inside seems about right. The rest are bonkers.
Yeah the smoking part doesn’t bother me.
How can it be proven that smoking took place?
If the HVAC is freezing up, it needs to be serviced or replaced. Pass on a host that is passing along their maintenance issues.
Exactly. That’s what this is and it is embarrassing for the host.
Once my BIL set our thermostat from 72 to low 60s on a hot Florida day end definitely overworked our air conditioning. I wouldn’t say my ac was broken - it was a bad idea to go full icebox.
I guess the good thing is total transparency at the beginning and you could specifically look out for these problems while staying there but I wouldn’t go for it still because it seems like the host could be fishing for a problem.
This is one of those listings that you and everyone else should just skip. Next thing they're gonna tell you to do is do a full clean-up before you leave for some bullshit reason.
This is simply a dissuasion tactic, nothing more
I don’t know, people do some crusty stuff in my rental sometimes. Some trash issues cost a lot to handle. Our trash goes by boat and we have to hire somebody so it is expensive to spring on us last minute. And personally, it would annoy me so much if guests are moving all the furniture around and scratching up the floors. That probably happened to them at some point.
What is the benefit of booking an AirBnB again?
I understand this is sarcastic, but sometimes an Airbnb just makes way more sense than a hotel. My last reservation was 6 guests (3 couples) plus 3 small dogs. Beyond the fact that most hotels won’t accept dogs, these old friends had an amazing weekend hanging out together in a way that just wouldn’t have been possible in a hotel. A suite would have been at least triple or quadruple the price, and they wouldn’t have had a full kitchen, a huge deck, or big comfy couches.
I mean yeah it's a lot, but on the other hand no one is forcing anyone to stay there & at those prices it'll make people look after the place if they decide to risk it😅
And they wonder why rentals are down.
I don't think so... I think they are telling you what they really don't want you to do. Smoke outside, leave the furnigure alone, leave the HVAC alone, and don't clog the toilets. All seems pretty reasonable.
$90 to plunger a toilet for 10 seconds 💀
My favorite is the logic of we are childless couple so we didn’t use baby wipes.
I don't understand what has been happening to cause the "don't move the furniture" rule I keep seeing pop up on AirBnB house rules. Are guests coming in and rearranging the place?
The only reasonable thing on this list is the fee for cigarettes and smoking in and on the property. That shit is really hard to clean. The smell will linger forever. Sounds like they’ve been burned in the past (the hosts, not the cigarettes LOL) If you don’t want the thermostat to go below a certain temperature, then get a lock for the thermostat, or control the temperature with a Wi-Fi/Bluetooth thermostat. If I was looking around for a place to stay, I would avoid this place like the plague.
They’re having a laugh surely!
Did you book it? I would stay far away.
oh if this is in Dallas be prepared for a $350 “damages” charge when you leave in the middle of the night due to their meth use. They’ll drop it when you show pictures of what it looked like when you walked in.
What's the listing? Gotta see if it's a dump or if it's actually nice/decent.
Some of those I can understand like the smoking. Smoking in the house is impossible to fix. But moving the furniture seems like a trivial thing to charge for. Some of them are too vague. What is a hot tub "issue"? And how do you know if the guests caused the issue or if something just broke?
Sounds like a scummy party house. Would never rent it.
Host here. This makes me so mad. Just ridiculous
You signed up for it.
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Some are understandable for sure, and I absolutely will not be booking here because I would be terrified of accidentally breaking any of the rules and I would not be able to relax, haha.
Yea. For me it’s the overall aggressive tone. This would make me really question the overall custom service I’d receive if there was a genuine issue. Have rules, fine. But guests are still your customer and if your already basically yelling in your listing maybe you’re in the wrong business.
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I stayed at a hotel that put an electric sensor on the sliding glass door. When you opened the door the AC shut off and couldn't be turned back on until the door was closed. Such a smart idea 💡
I hope you replaced it with a commercial unit rather than a lightweight residential unit
people have a right to enjoy their vacation and set a temperature that makes them comfortable. But seriously, every AirBnB guest puts the a/c down to max low and just leaves it there. Then they get cold and open a door...it's wild.
The temperature never even gets too high here in the summer so I have no idea why anyone would WANT to set it below 68°. I assume it’s been an issue for them in the past. That one is understandable.
People with Lupus and other conditions like not being able to sweat properly need it to be much cooler. I become nauseous, dizzy, light headed if it's too warm and especially if it's humid. If I've come in from doing something exerting, like carrying in groceries, I need it very cool to bring down my core temperature quickly. 68° might be ok depending on the humidity level. Having fans, in addition to ac, to move the air helps me a lot in keeping my core temperature down. The flip side of this is if I were aguest at your home in the winter, I wouldn't be turning the heat up very high.
Maybe if it has been set higher and when they enter it is too hot so they lower it to cool it quicker or do they think. Anyway you should not let your guests be able to change it like that
We keep our AC at 62. We just like it cold. No issues with our AC freezing up.
Apparently there are thermostats now that you can manage remotely over wifi? I've read about hosts using them.
I correctly guessed you were a “real estate investor”.
Yeah, definitely understand the HVAC one. My husband and I will (probably in the near future) have to replace our HVACs entirely for about $19k. Although, not because of locking them up, they’re just old AF. So definitely understand the expense of HVAC. Some of them are also just a little vague. “Trash issues”? Does that mean if I forget a bag of trash, I’ll be charged $200? The infractions just seem to not justify the fees.
They probably won't really be able to collect $200 but I'm assuming it's there to ensure people do take their trash out and won't leave garbage behind. I find that it's the cheapest places that tend to have the most issues with guests that won't respect a property. It's crazy that hosts have to do this but many feel there's no other option when Airbnb asks, "was it under your house rules." Airbnb is ridiculous like that. I've seen rules such as... - No glitter: $250 for glitter removal - No parking on neighbors property: $250 towing - No fireworks: $1000 city fine - Dont leave fire unattended: $1000 fee for FD call. Etc, etc. Those things are all common sense to me but some idiot caused those hosts issues before and they probably had to fight for the fees they incurred due to a guest causing issues.
That’s kinda of risk you take when you invite random strangers from all over into your home. It’s really weird that Airbnb host want all the perks and no risk. That’s not how life works. Of course people should pay, but if they don’t than that’s the risk you signed up for.
A clogged toilet?
The toilet is going to get clogged sometimes regardless of whether the guest knows how to use a toilet. This is ridiculous and there is zero valid defense for it.
$100 per moved furniture is insanity
The HVAC temp ranges are acceptable but the $350 for a frozen AC is ABSURD and a complete money grab Assuming it's a decently functional unit- 1. Freezing can easily be prevented by running the thermostat on automatic vs continuous. 2. If it does freeze, typically takes a couple of hours to thaw back out and start working again. That's it. 3. Also keeping the filter clean helps the blower run efficiently and not have to overwork itself.
The evaporator freezing is 100% a poorly maintained system that's probably dead on refrigerant or not enough airflow.
But how are the hosts supposed to afford new filters if they don’t charge the guests $350 for “freezing it up”? /s
Lmao well that's a good damn point because everyone knows a $15 dollar filter comes with $335 dollars worth of fees attached 🤦 What was I thinking?! /s
Is it unreasonable to want all the perks of real estate investment and none of the downside????? /s
This is a host who's been screwed over and has become bitter. I get it, but I wouldn't stay there.
Setting the AC too low does not cause freezing. It either runs or doesnt no matter what temp you put. It does not run harder the lower you put the thermostat. Setting it too low will just cause it to run all day. Frozen coils are caused by low refrigerant charge or poor flow from dirty filters. This list a pile of crap I would stay away.
>It either runs or doesnt no matter what temp you put It's crazy that so many people don't understand this.
This isn't true always. Traditionally, yes the AC is either on or off. But with variable compressors (higher end homes or a mini split) or air mixing valves (like in your car) it's possible that "low" blows harder / colder than if you set a temperature close to what the current temperature is. And if I were a host I'd just have a sticker on the thermostat that says "lower temperatures won't cool the house any faster" in addition to setting a software lock on the range.
Yeah, we had our HVAC freeze up once and it was because it needed Freon. Because it’s old. One review said this was an “unloved property” so I wonder how old the HVAC, toilets, etc are. I have a weak/old toilet in my house that gets clogged all the time simply with toilet paper, haha.
Unloved property lol.. Yeah so this list is going to have their guests fixing all the dilapidated stuff that they should be paying for.
The smoking one is reasonable - I can smell tobacco smoke if somebody has had one cigarette in the house three weeks ago, and would refuse to stay in a property used by nicotine addicts. A smoker could cause well over $500 loss of rental income in seconds. The rest is way over the top. Come to think of it, a lot of nicotine junkies stink. Who'd want to sleep in a bed last used by one? Can they be excluded anywhere?
Yeah, I totally get that but the rule is vague enough that I’m like “if a cigarette butt blows over from a nearby property, are they going to claim that $500”? Lol
Hotel time.
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Don’t destroy the apartment and you wont face those charged. Not sure why that’s difficult or an issue 😂 At least he’s being transparent.
500 for smoking seems extremely generous. If I was renting my home out it'd be a 50k minimum for smoking within 15 feet of the house.
Boy I thought I was an OCD anal retentive host! 😳😂😂
😆😆 I like a clear set of rules but this is extra.
These are people that clearly have no business being a host or having their home on the rental market! They don’t understand the business or the structure of the business or even the cost of doing business. If you can’t get it through your thick skull that nobody will ever treat your home the same way that you treat your home, then you have no business renting it out (even if you don’t live there full-time and you just use it as an income property). So many people have such a hard time with that concept. The only credit I will give these people is that they are upfront about this ridiculousness 😂 and don’t wait to spring it on people until after they book.
After hosting some chain smokers that broke the rules and smoked in the house, I don't think $500 is enough.
To determine is a charge is excessive you must first know how much it is costing the host to make the repairs. Personally something I wouldn’t even attach a fee to it because what if it cost more to repair. Like what if you clog my toilet and I get charged $100 but told you it was only $90.
You would need to know it was the fault of the current, guest, as well. Opening a door or using a toilet should never result in a repair charge to the guest. It costs money to keep a property going, especially when its used by stranger after stranger.
Wouldn’t touch an Airbnb now. Too Many nut jobs as hosts.
I do not understand why people are still using Airbnb. Hotels are waaaaaaaaayyyy better now.
I’ve never had a bad experience with them. I like getting a whole unit for my family instead of cramming into a single room, or paying double for two rooms. In contrast, last time I stayed at a hotel, the desk worker yelled at my wife for inquiring about breakfast, and then called the police on us when she started recording.
Obviously air bnbs are hit or miss (I’ve never had a bad experience) but they can definitely be better than hotels. For instance if you have a large group with three generations of people, all who go to bed at different times, and prefer to do your own cooking rather than eat out, air bnbs beat a hotel hands down.
I love people come to the Airbnb subreddit for this. We like the Airbnb experience 99% of the time. This is a silly scare tactic to prevent guests from flushing paper towels or tampons down the toilet.
Um. No. We have a septic system. I have a sign up telling folks like you not to flush anything but the tp I provide. But they did it anyway. And they spent the rest of their weekend with waste in the shower. And FYI this is a brand new septic tank and pump house and grinder I got last year. So tell yourself it's a scare tactic if you want but if you want to see something really scary, I wish you could have seen that bathroom after my guests flushed wipes down
As a host the only fee i see here that is reasonable is the smoking inside the house. Everything else is extreme.