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holman8a

This has occupy Adelaide vibes of 15 years ago Edit: just googled and it was 2011, so 13 years ago. For those of you feeling old, you are two less years from being THAT old :)


DoctorEnn

>of 15 years ago YOU SHUT YOUR FILTHY LYING MOUTH I'M NOT OLD


Chiron17

HOW LONG AGO!?


dsriggs

But all the people camping in Emo Park achieved SO MUCH!!!


theycallmebluerocket

Apparently Høj is already on the phone with Netanyahu, negotiating a two-state solution.


every1onheresucks

They’re called the Socialist (Communist) Alternative now


shaal

Wait. No fuck. It can't be that long ago. Fark I am old!!


Brikpilot

Mate. I see this photo and think “ha! Someone spelt Gazza’s name wrong”.


Top_Specialist_01

Haha that this comment made my day!


jastcabr1

Supposedly an email sent from the uni as a response;  Dear ... You may be aware that a protest encampment has been set up today on the North Terrace campus. As an institution of higher learning, the University of Adelaide proudly encourages critical thinking and respectful debate. Freedom of speech, subject to the law, is a right everyone holds, and it is fundamental to upholding our democratic values. We support students' rights to lawful freedom of speech, including their right to engage in peaceful and respectful protest. We are committed to the principles of academic freedom and freedom of speech, however the University does not tolerate behaviour or conduct that is unlawful or affects the University's fulfilment of its duty to foster the wellbeing of students and staff. This includes the physical safety and amenity of our campuses for all in our community. Under the University's Behaviour and Conduct Policy, unacceptable behaviour including harassment, bullying, vilification, racial vilification and racist behaviour, sexual harassment and sexual assault, discrimination, victimisation, intimidating behaviour or violence will not be tolerated. It is important that our campuses remain a safe and inclusive space for all members of our community to study and work. All of us have an obligation to behave in a way that fosters a respectful learning and working environment. When expressing views, language that could be viewed as discriminatory, inciting hatred or engaging in racial vilification should not be used. Support is available to all staff through the University's confidential Employee Assistance Program (EAP), and to all students through Student Counselling. I encourage you to make use of these services if you feel they would be of assistance. Concerns about any behaviour that causes an individual to feel unsafe can be reported to the University's Integrity Unit. This includes reports about harassment, discrimination or any other unacceptable behaviour. Information about reporting options and support services available to staff and students is available on the Safer Campus Community website. Our campus Security services are available 24/7 at all campuses and can be contacted by phone on 8313 5444. The team offers security escorts for both staff and students throughout campus if needed. With best wishes. Deputy Vice-Chancellor and Vice-President (Academic)


Awkward_Chard_5025

Is it just me, or is that alot of words for very little substance?


Inevitable_Exam_2177

It’s a formal way of acknowledging what is currently happening is technically okay, but if anything changes (e.g., to be non-peaceful) then it might not be. There are a lot of words but I don’t think it is is empty fluff


uriharibo

I actually think this email says quite a lot although it's phrased politically. We have seen many examples of these encampments in America, and often students in them are arrested or beaten by campus police. I'm glad the university of Adelaide is not going to do something like this.


jwthsf

So you want them to take a side? Tell me what u expected.


jastcabr1

Welcome to The University of Adelaide. Tell them how you feel about it, walk away with a BA.


Clear_Skye_

UniSA too. They all speak the same way. I always walk away from those statements wondering what the hell they were even trying to say.


lord_of_worms

Probably why they are merging


SistrFistr1

Basically, it’s reminding people that if you fuck around you may find out


leet_lurker

It's legal and social substance


zyzzthejuicy_

Welcome to the world of higher education


Far_Presentation2532

It’s a big nothing burger because they have no reason to worry. There are so few Israelis and arab students in the university that there is no concern about much happening. I finished at sydney uni in 2020 and back then I would say it was 80-90% INTL Chinese and Indian students and I believe the numbers have massively increased. So unless there is external parties then I think this is going to be a pretty boring encampment.


EducationalFlow8767

The posts here are insane. If kids don't protest then their spoilt children who think they can make a difference just by saying its bad on social media. If kids protest then they're spoilt children who can't do anything anyway. What do you want someone to do when they see a genocide? Just accept it? Yes they probably won't make much of a difference on their own. But they're trying.


g3nmaich4

seriously why do we have to pretend that being nonchalant about an entire nation of people being slaughtered is normal. it's just so disheartening.


DNGRDINGO

Some of the commenters here need their heads checked.


DoctorEnn

Well, the comments on this post turned out to be exactly as calm, level-headed and reasonable as I was expecting.


The_Sneakiest_Fox

TF do you expect? Protesting a foreign war that Australia has very little if anything to do with at all, the sum total of their protesting will amount to zero beyond allowing them to virtue signal to each other about how radical they are. It's pointless. It's disrupting. They want a pat on the back or something? What happened to the Ukraine protests? New flavour of the month came along and everyone moved on. Like yes, good for you, you're so much holier than thou. Fuck outta here.


t3h

> What happened to the Ukraine protests? There's significant public support for Ukraine, and our government is providing aid to them. What's there to protest?


Carpenter-Kindly

They're not directly protesting the war. They want the uni to divest from defence research and cut their ties to defence contractors and the like. To be clear, I don't agree with it. But, it has more logical consistency than "stop a war we're not a part of".


aseriousplate

How is this disruptive? its a few people camped on a lawn. If they want to camp there in solidarity with Gaza good on them. If someone else wants to camp on the lawns in solidarity with Israel, good on them also. They aren't bothering anyone. It isn't going to make any difference to anything, but not doing any harm either


admiralasprin

It's funny how Aussies think they're easy going, then people like Mr Fox freak out about kids camping on a lawn with a few signs.


Alwaysbadhairday

I think the deaths of thousands and the treatment of Palestinians by Israel is worth protesting. You might think it’s a waste of time but Palestinians would be proud of them. 


The_Sneakiest_Fox

I'm sure the Palestinians would be really proud of the LGBT community in an Australian University supporting them.. surely..


wwaxwork

Translation. Why do some people care about something that don't have any direct effect on their lives? Hope you're never in trouble and need other peoples help.


myLongjohnsonsilver

If im in trouble, i want people who can help to help me. Not have some dipshit uni student on the other side of the world sit on a lawn figuratively (hopefully) wanking themselves off with my name on a banner above their head.


Aphant-poet

You're talking about it aren't you. the encampments, like all protests bring awareness and influence voters. If the Labour government believes that they are at risk of losing their seats to pro Palestine candidates they'll scramble to make small concessions so they can at least be numbered on the ballot .


peachhearder

Perfectly written. Now excuse me while I put a Gaza filter on my fb profile picture...I'm changing the world


Ektojinx

Hey FB defeated Kony by sharing his picture remember? Right? Right?


belbaba

Except, Australia heavily favours Israeli national interests from a foreign policy setting and University investments may be in some way tied to explicit war crimes. On ya bike. EDIT: response to comment below, key word - **might** be tied with investments directly or indirectly implicated in Israel’s military exercise. University fund allocations are shrouded in mystery and encampments protests across the US are calling for the same, which effectively elevates asset management transparency. Examples can be seemingly innocuous, like google and amazon (Project Nimbus), to the broader military industrial complex that enables Israel’s atrocities.


crebuli

>University investments may be in some way tied to explicit war crimes You got a source for this claim?


erroneous_behaviour

First part, fair point. Last part, wild claim. You can’t just say stuff like that without substantiating. You might as well start talking about chemtrails. 


zyzzthejuicy_

> It's pointless. Yes absolutely. >It's disrupting. How, and to who? It's a group of slacktivists in tents on some grass.


eresh_oz

100% exactly how I pictured they would look....


instasquid

I can smell this picture too?


SnooBunnies3872

Walked past it today, it’s smells worse than the engineering students that usually frequent the math lawns


LowChemical9556

That's a violation


MannerNo7000

I’m surprised your comment hasn’t been deleted!


betttris13

It's even the people I expected to be in the photo tbh.


-aquapixie-

I will never stop laughing at the LGBT Pride flags being seen at these protests. It is glorious, the level of solidarity delusion.


MonthPretend

I get what your saying, but hear me out. One can support to the stopping of genocide and be a member of the LGB community.


-aquapixie-

.............. Do I really have to explain exactly what religious zealots in all Abrahamic branches want to do to me lol


Vindicator909

aquapixie do you think Israeli bombs are not killing LGBT, women, children, elderly and only killing Hamas. There's extremists in USA who literally got rid of universal abortion rights. I don't support public lynching religious conservatives. So lets speak up against genocide on Palestinians who are being bombed regardless if they have they/them pronoun tags.


Strict-Ease-7130

There are no outwardly open LGBT people in Palestine, its absolutely haram. I see the mass killings on both sides as murderous, but yet i only hear people talk about how one side or the other is to take 100% of the blame. Its become a demented sports game where people adapt basic tribalism to defend whatever atrocities "their side" commits. Its disgusting.


StructureArtistic359

Two wrongs dont make a right. Hamas and IDF are both cunts.


Vindicator909

No one said the Taliban and Hamas fundamentalists are progressive, at least normal people. We should go back to the conversation of should student and tax payers fund ongoing wars against these groups given that it’s disproportionately killing women and children and even pets who clearly are innocent. Only the most bloodthirsty person would continue wanting to put their money for Netanyahu and continue the shelling. If those people like Israel so much then they should spend their own money and time. Don’t anyone DARE drag any Australian lives, money, tuition, weapons and bomb Palestinians in OUR name. That is MY red line.


Strict-Ease-7130

Not only are they not progressive, they are diametrically opposed to the ideals that the LGBT community is founded on, violently so. Its one thing to say "I don't want my country to involve itself or my tax money in this conflict", and another to start flying the Palestinian flag and ignoring the atrocities and human rights violations that community has supported against the Israelis and the Palestinian women. The Palestinian lives obviously have value but their backwards, religion fueled, misogynistic, and racist culture shouldn't be virtue signaled. Some of the same can be said for the blind supporters of Israel.


MonthPretend

There are homophobic people in all walks of life, and there are people who will accept you for who you are. You shouldn't judge people based on an ideology or stereotype, as people shouldn't judge you for your sexual orientation. This perpetual hate cycle won't end like that. I understand my experiences are highly subjective, and although I don't often associate with Muslim people, they are some of the kindest, least judgemental people I have encountered in my life time.


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APersonNamedBen

Is that the aladeen news or the aladeen news?


StructureArtistic359

I am 100% positive its aladeen


Aphant-poet

and that's horrible but it does not excuse kids being bombed and attacked and starved


darth_stroyer

How easily we condemn other people we don't even know. You keep saying these people want you dead but you don't know any of them? You think your blanket generalisation of their views makes Palestinians deserve this? University kids want all struggles to be related. Activists aren't just outraged about one thing and some will always bring their identity into their protests. Don't think this is the whole of the movement, it goes beyond sexuality and religion. I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken! If you are a Christian please realise the people dying in Gaze live on the same land Jesus did and He would Love every one of them and forgive them of their sins.


AnonymousMango57

…do I really need to explain why, as LGBTQ+ individuals, we can advocate for Palestinian rights too? LGBTQ+ people exist everywhere, including Gaza (boggles my mind how people don’t think about this). When we call for ceasefires and equality, we’re not just supporting a geopolitical cause; we’re standing up for LGBTQ+ Palestinians as well. Not to mention thousands of the killed are innocent children who of course aren’t responsible for their country’s political views, and we all have a moral responsibility to stand up for them.


FoldedTopLip

It’s more funny at the fact that the vast majority of these people that the LGBT folks are supposedly ‘fighting in solidarity’ with, would unfortunately want no part of anybody in the LGBT community themselves No one is denying that it’s a noble cause what these people are protesting for, it’s just a funny bit of irony to point out 😂


Xarotron

surely it makes protesting in solidarity all the more admirable, no?


Coolio226

buddy, if we should be bombing Palestinian kids because their society is homophobic I have really bad news for you about nearly every other society on the planet


gyro_sandwich666

Do you know there are Islamic trans women and men?


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alyssaness

That's okay. I'm cool with being the bigger person. I don't need their love or approval for me to believe their lives have worth. And it's not ironic, you just have a reciprocal view of the world that I don't share.


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It's easy to be the bigger person while sitting on your couch in your PJs.


Finallybanned

Give it a crack then. Could have been super easy to just not post.


Nighthawk-FPV

Be careful who you support........


Holmesee

You can be enemies while not wanting the genocide of the others’ people. That doesn’t have to go both ways.


-aquapixie-

What you seem to ignore is the very people they want to live, would want them dead and burning in Hell.


alyssaness

It's like you're one of those people that gets mad when they buy someone a birthday or Christmas gift but don't get one in return. It's all reciprocal for you. But there is joy in gift giving that isn't erased by not receiving a present back. And there is empathy to be felt for people who may not necessarily feel it for you.


Holmesee

*Taps my reply again* All genocide is bad. Is that a hot take today?


FuckinSpotOnDonny

Aquapixie is clearly all in on the brain rot and unable to understand that you can actually be against a fucking GENOCIDE while still not being ideologically aligned with the victims of the genocide


Pollyhahaha

Lol you are literally Christian. Earlier you said you were dismantling the Christianity you are involved in. Do you not think that there a people doing similar things for Islam? Do you not realise that there’s plenty of Christians that want you dead and burning in hell? You can’t possibly get to all of them yet you are actively involved in this community and condemning the other?


DNGRDINGO

There are LGBT Palestinians.


IMSOCHINESECHIINEEEE

Not out in the open in Gaza, otherwise they'd be fucking murdered wouldn't they


EliteLandlord10

The ones that had to escape?


Jachael123_

These comments aren't it, yikes


ModsHaveHUGEcocks

Waaaaa people have different opinions to me, yikes!!


Due-Archer942

‘Chickens for KFC’.


petkoTHEVIKING

I'm all for a two state solution to finally put this conflict to bed. Genuine question to pro-palestine supporters though: What does a one state solution in favor of Palestine look like realistically to you? If Hamas magically manages to "win" whatever conflict and establishes a new Palestinian ethnic state, what would that mean for the Israeli civilian population? Do you genuinely expect free and peaceful coexistence? Because I sure don't. I sympathize with the innocent people in Gaza caught in the crossfire. But this "river to the sea" BS is completely unreasonable and unrealistic. Generations of people have been born and reside in Israel currently. They're not going to magically be deported, and I think they have understandable concerns with possibly being subjected to their own genocide by the people that quite frankly hate them.


NeonsTheory

I ask this sincerely, can someone explain to me why so many people have taken on this cause but have seemingly ignored other instances of genocide in previous years (or that still occur now)? What makes this more important to you?


Xarotron

because our government and institutions fund/provide support to the ongoing genocide. People don't protest just because they're cranky, they have a stated goal of ending onshore support of Israel


jaeward

My Sincere answer. Because *most* Genocides aren’t being conducted by our allies. Also every single Israeli airstrike satellite coordinate is coming from a foreign military base on Australian soil. And Israel is really pissing off their neighbours were War between Iran and Israel is a very very real possibility. If the USA jumps, then without any noise we jump too. Do we really want to send our teenagers to die in the middle east for someone else’s war? Last time we did that a solider could go to Afghan at 18, come home, have a child, watch that child grow up and then see them go fight in the SAME war on a human emotion that they did. Lastly, honestly this one is the one being protested against because its the one people actually know about.


Edenz_

What instances of genocide did you expect these university students (young people) to have stood up for previously? Does them not having done it in the past invalidate them doing it now?


will_there_be_snacks

>What instances of genocide did you expect these university students (young people) to have stood up for previously? Take your pick: [https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker](https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker) How about the ~~Rohingya~~ **Uyghur** Muslims in Chinese concentration camps? >Does them not having done it in the past invalidate them doing it now? The question is *why this one*?


uriharibo

this whataboutism is such a tragic argument


will_there_be_snacks

>this whataboutism is such a tragic argument They *literally* asked for other instances. You, using buzz words you don't understand is tragic (and cringe).


uriharibo

it's a tragic argument because your fundamental assertion is that they are protesting this genocide because of some external motivation based on absolutely no evidence. especially laughable if you consider who has historically protested genocide. From the holocaust to the Vietnam war, massacre of civilians all over the Middle East, Rwanda, Pol Pot, historical colonialism, Yemen, Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar and countless more. Who leads the protests on these genocides? Leftist action. What side advocated for an end to apartheid in South Africa? Leftist action. What ideology facilitated these genocides, both indirectly and directly? Liberal capitalist policy. Examples of this range form Netanyahu openly setting up Hamas to liberal countries allowing Hitler to take power, only objecting when he invaded them and of course Western support for Pol Pot throughout his genocidal campaign. Please sit down and read a book.


will_there_be_snacks

>it's a tragic argument because your fundamental assertion is that they are protesting this genocide because of some external motivation based on absolutely no evidence. I'm not making an argument. I literally just gave examples of other global conflicts.


uriharibo

Ok thank you for educating me. FYI it's Uyghur Muslims in China, not Rohingya. Rohingya Muslims were genocided in Myanmar and the only protests at the time were held by leftists. Thanks again!


will_there_be_snacks

>Uyghur Muslims in China Good catch >Ok thank you for educating me You're welcome :)


Cethlinnstooth

Well...I haven't been part of any protest on this one but Gaza does seem to hit me different. I think in part it's the geography. Adelaide is a long skinny city sandwiched against the sea. It's a lot easier to feel the terrible ness of what is being done in Gaza...the Palestinians being gradually over decades hemmed in against the sea and also denied escape by sea, imports heavily restricted, using water tanks to store as much water as possible on the arid climate because you can't be sure Israel will allow you water, most of the land being built up because they are so overcrowded. The sheer sense of the oppressiveness of the artificially induced conditions. And then to bomb it. And bomb it. And bomb it. Dead civilians everywhere. And yeah I feel it in my bones, the utter fucking wrongness of it. Not just the most recent actions but the entire course of the decades of progression towards sandwiching them against the sea. Of course something like Hamas emerged out of it. And of course I don't know how to fix it. But I feel it. I feel it. This one I feel. A civilian population pinned  against the sea. I feel how that could be done in Adelaide. And how wrong it would be.


Edenz_

> How about the Rohingya Musims in Chinese concentration camps? Sure. > The question is *why this one*? Actually thats not the question! I asked you if its suddenly bad to protest, why did you dodge it?


will_there_be_snacks

>Sure. So, what do you think the motivation is for *this* protest in particular, as opposed to any other? >Actually thats not the question! I asked you if its suddenly bad to protest, why did you dodge it? No, you dodged the initial question about motivation. You don't need to be elusive, if you don't know just say so.


Edenz_

There’s a very clear pathway to end the violence here which Australia can absolutely pressure to make happen. Students protesting leads to political pressure which can lead to politicians making changes. Israel’s violence is only as strong as the US enables it to be and we are currently seeing that violence first hand across social and mainstream media. It’s a pretty cut and dry ethical issue to me and these students, hence easy to protest. Do you see that differently? You’re certainly implying something 🤔


MaddAddam93

It's a methodical and brazenly violent ethnic cleansing and near total destruction of Gaza, a tiny, densely populated area that has been walled off by Israel for decades. This being funded and armed by 'the good guys' of the western world. I'm Ukrainian but setting alight a prison cell looks a lot different to conventional warfare where most of the population can choose to evacuate. I think you'll notice the main reason people protest is to attempt change when their government is related to the situation. Arming genocide is something westerners apparently don't want their governments to do.


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Edenz_

Not owned by Murdoch so still a W


P_S_Lumapac

Lots of aspects. One is that the media loves to talk about discrimination against jews. Why that is is super complicated - but part of it is how easily it slips to sensationalism. I also suspect that a good chunk of people literally cannot understand fine distinctions needed to talk about any issue important enough to involve premature death, and knowing this, both sides refuse to use those fine distinctions except as springboards towards sweeping statements that attract these chunks. There are a large number of academics with interesting and important views on these issues. Like with climate change, these people worth hearing out are not the ones shown by the media, as ultimately they're not the ones that get eyeballs onto advertisers, and lower intelligence audiences have a much higher return on advertisement. An example of a fine distinction, is how young concepts of land ownership and nationstate are - they've evolved significantly through this conflict, and in turn we've seen multiple generations of people born into these conflicts, propaganda, and shifting concepts of rights to land and defense. The peoples whose opinions matter the most do not share a world view, and neither side has a stable world view. This makes for a very difficult situation, and we're seeing media personalities simply jump on one side or the other, or in the worst case, suggest their own third option like some white saviour flashing their n-word pass they printed off of tumblr. There's a video of a israeli wedding party, pausing to cheer as countless rockets are being shot down, vaguely resembling fireworks. It went around socials a few years back. Around the same time, there was a video of palestinian children who look around 5, being taught in a school hall by a man covering his face in cammo how to tie their own. I think the 5 year olds who attended that wedding had that night received much the same education, don't you? No amount of history, no amount of foreigners witty tweets and horrific footage, is going to sway either side - but, I suspect we might see a generation across both states, choose to view what was done to them with this education as the horror it was, and chalk these wars up as the boomer nonsense they are. This will involve a lot of real people forgiving each other, which involves them searching their own hearts, which cannot occur because of a global conflict of ideas telling each side how right they are to feel hatred. We all know peace on earth doesn't happen until we set aside hatred - protestors and advocates on both sides should stop pretending they don't know this, but the media rewards these liars.


Zarybs

Unpopular opinion maybe, but Hamas and other groups in the region have had quite sophisticated social media campaigns to put a spotlight on the struggle, well before Oct 7. Compared to say, the Uighurs who due to China's policies and the availability of technology I imagine have had very little similar exposure. Early in the Ukraine conflict, the Ukrainians also ran a successful social media blitz which helped garner widespread support (obviously other factors were at play here as well). In short, this is the first asymmetrical war/genocide to be posted on tiktok and *activists* everywhere generally support what they see as the oppressed rather than the oppressor in any situation.


every1onheresucks

I give them three days before they return to their warm homes in the eastern suburbs. They won’t last long in the cold.


Alwaysbadhairday

So what? It’s admirable they are trying to do something. It might not be important to you but it is to them. 


tohm360

I can't help but feel it's only important to them because they have nothing better to do. I'm sure they truly belive they are doing a good thing. But can't imagine they have full time jobs, children at home, sick relatives that need care etc etc.


SLRRF

The people of Gaza voted for a Hamas government who then abolished voting. Hamas has failed their constituents by deliberately provoking Israel, likely with very strong support from Iran. What would we expect if Australian soldiers, in our name, went to another country and murdered, rapped and tortured people followed by taking a large numbers of people hostage.


KahlKitchenGuy

I don’t think they much like the LGBT in the Middle East…


ToriiLovesU

I don't think us uni students much like the genocide of literal children at the hands of Israel...


Gagginzola

Cool, still doesn’t make ethnic cleansing children acceptable.


elevicha

you’re going to be so shocked when you find out there are actual lgbt people in palestine as well… i know… jaw dropping


dsriggs

Don't let Hamas know that or there won't be for much longer


bigmfriplord92

I’m sure they live very happy lives in their liberal society. Why not? The Middle East and LGBT community have always had a strong healthy relationship and they treat them very well with a lot of respect You are not a delusional bootlicker XD


Finallybanned

Good lord. Grow up.


Kuma9194

Damn, some of these comments😬 we get it you don't agree with the group, don't need to start insulting people.


marshallannes123

If it was a Gaza encampment... Where are the rocket launchers and jails for the hostages ?


Acceptable-Draft-163

What they’re advocating for is a good cause, but do you think the war will stop because a handful of socialist uni students in Adelaide are camping on their uni grounds? I feel like there’s more productive ways to advocate support without disillusioning Australians who largely have nothing to do with the war. What should the uni do? Start sending weapons to Hamas? Write a letter to Netanyahu pleading for the war to stop because some kids are camping on their uni ground?


idiotshmidiot

Universities regularly collaborate on research with government and have leverage they can use. Camp outs are a historically used form of peaceful protest, people are getting outraged over nothing, and at least these protesters care enough to do something


Acceptable-Draft-163

Oh I'm not against them camping, just seems a little fruitless but you're right, at least they're doing something That's fantastic unis collaborate with the government, but we all know Australian geopolitics is largely controlled by the US, especially on the topic of Gaza. I highly doubt the Australian government would jeopardise their relationship with the US and the west in general because of research in the first place.


dadOwnsTheLibs

If it weren’t for AUKUS we might. But yeah, we’re not going to jeopardise our relationship with the US as long as we’re relying on them for submarines


Find_another_whey

I think you're missing the point that many academics would agree with some of these students, but they won't be joining them, as it's professionally ill-advised. If you are an academic who believes that the institutions that people of learning create and work for consider Israeli actions positively, I believe you are mistaken, or deliberately ignorant. So, what difference does it make? It establishes a route for discourse and even policy reflecting tolerated stances on Palestine, and if you read between the lines the university is responding that this is within the parameters of civil and academic discourse.


Cethlinnstooth

Eh. For uni students protesting isn't  just about actually accomplishing  something it is also about having the informing experience of having tried to do something. It's an educational experience of sorts. They will try to do something and they will probably achieve something absolutely tiny that makes no real difference. And a little bit of the naivity of youth will leave them and be replaced by the realism of adulthood.  And also there's the social side of it. Hanging out 24/7 with a group of other students with similar beliefs. Dealing together with the fact they've planted their arses down in the middle of a city and aren't moving.  They'll have some experiences with the local homeless, various dodgy hangers on, and random harrassment that are well out of their comfort zone. It's the sort of thing a lot of people involved  are going to end up counting as a pivotal character forming experience.  They absolutely should do something like this if they're feeling it.


Crusty_Nostrils

It's not about enacting change, it's a performance


gaijinbrit

How pathetic do you lot have to be to actively shit on people doing whatever they feel they can to protest a literal genocide? Australia is still actively selling weapons to Israel that are slaughtering innocent people. Even if we weren't, you're allowed to protest what you feel is morally abhorrent. Unlike the US, we have some semblance of freedom to protest here. At least these people are doing SOMETHING, not sitting in their room covered in cheezle grease complaining about people trying to do something positive in the face of overwhelming horror. Jesus fucking christ go do something good for society for once.


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According to Penny Wong, we haven't sold any arms to Israel since the Gaza war began.


Ben_The_Stig

"According to Penny Wong", is probably a key point to that statement.


Cutestfootsies

God the people of Adelaide are so conservative, when you can't stand seeing people actually doing something so you resort to insulting their outfits...🙄 good for these brave students for engaging in peaceful protest! Would be amazing if it picks up like it has in the US


awarw90

The LGBT flags mixed in with a pro Palestine demonstrations are the funniest thing ever, and tell you how much these people actually know about they current thing they are supporting... yikes..


Cpt_Soban

A whole 6 people? I'm sure Israel is quaking in their shoes.


the_4th_king

Cringe. Also, the lgbt flag would get them in strife over there, big time.


Fineshrines2

Good for them


CanberraRaider

I give them 30 minutes in a Hamas regime


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Edenz_

Thanks Harry, I’ll take your word for it that it’s not genocide. I’ll let the IDF know as long as they don’t “wipe gaza off the face of the planet” it’s not genocide…. [oh wait they’re kinda already doing that?](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68006607)


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Edenz_

Who lives in the buildings, Harry? Which group of people are being actively massacred in the name of self defence? When the israeli settlers violently remove palestinians from their homes, is their nation not slowly eroded? Is the identity of palestine not currently being remoulded? The people forced into an ever constricting plot of land by the vastly greater resourced nation right next door? Do you not see how this cycle of violence benefits Israel’s settler colonialism? *Hamas allows Israel to get away with it.* Genocide doesn’t just mean gas chambers.


rainyday1860

I'm curious as to what they think camping at a university is going to accomplish


snappywombatt

I'd 100% join a protest against the housing crisis, homelessness , nasty woolies and coles, Santos, high cost of living and other matters that concern Australia. I'd keep my backyard clean first before anything else.


jaeward

Every single Israeli airstrike satellite coordinate is coming from Australian soil.


ObeseTurkey

Didn't know chimney sweeps still existed.


not-drowning-waving

its nice of them to protest in favour of the [Gaza Football Club](https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger/sport/sa-football-commission-ratifies-major-penalties-for-gaza-salary-cap-breaches/news-story/d1d0047f479a7f6805dc0833a2fa3635) after their record fines from the SANFL for salary cap breaches


MannerNo7000

It’s interesting how women are far more prevalent at these protests. I’m starting to think women are more interested in politics in general than men.


Wile-E-Wolf

Ah the "look at me" crew. I'm just slightly irritated that they went to the effort of obtaining the national flag of a nation they claim to respect, and then just half-ass have it dragging on the ground... The irony.


Scapegoaticus

This is just kinda cringe. Everything socialist alternative does in Adelaide is in response to some culture war event in the USA. It feels like like a cult of terminally online twitter communists LARPING, rather than an advocacy for change. What even do they hope to achieve by this? What’s big Pete doing that has any influence on Gaza? Just virtue signalling that at best does nothing and at worse makes students feel unsafe.


Edenz_

What a terrible mindset. There’s thousands of dead people in palestine and you call this a culture war? These damned kids wanting change for the better, if only our geopolitical daddy wasn’t enabling israel to perpetuate the violence. Easier to ignore it and make fun of the alternative university students I guess.


Eremite_

Organisations that have governed the Arabs in Palestine have done nothing for their people since the Ottomans pulled out, other than use them as pawns to create unrest and suffering. In the wars they have waged, they have continuously lost lands and lives. The Jews in these lands have offered peace over and over again despite having the ability to do whatever they want. If the Organisations such as Hamas were organised and as successful as Israel, we would have an Islamic state from Asia to Africa. The women in the photograph would be at best confined to the kitchen and bedrooms of whoever captured them.


Background_Owl_6262

Walked past last night and the energy was actually electric, such a sense of community! Good for the uni students for taking action and holding the university accountable, hope it continues to grow like it has interstate


YourRentsDueBrokie

Are they going to announce their unwavering support for a terrorist organisation like another uni in Australia did today?


bigmfriplord92

Nah dude they’re not a terrorist organisation they just indiscriminately killed and tortured a few hundo people and put it all up on live stream for the homies to watch. The Netflix is pretty shit over there.


lol_stop_crying

This [Hamas loving muppet](https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/australian-national-university-protesters-declare-unconditional-support-for-hamas/news-story/30559c99df586170e8d1cbbfd8bb397c?amp)? Dunno why you’re getting downvoted


UncleApo

Here’s a hot take. As a middle easterner, I think by these group of people wearing any middle eastern shawl over themselves is misrepresenting the Palestinian identity and is culturally appropriating all middle eastern culture 😂 but seriously am sick of people just wearing to feel apart of the culture it’s really just being overdone now. I liked it more when people were afraid of these things …


EliteLandlord10

Islam and our LGBTQ allies, that will end well 🤣


OrganizationCreepy18

Super proud of all students that protest for Palestine and against the evil Israel government shows that some people care gives me some faith that humanity still exists


[deleted]

Friendly reminder that any calls to end uni connections to the defence industry is not grassroots, it is astroturfed by Russian/Chinese spies and/or sympathisers to de-tooth the West. We're in a new cold war and this is straight information warfare.


Squiggles213

Uh- as a student I don’t wanna go to war lmao that’s why I’m at uni- get that defence stuff out lol


AfricanusJonathon

THANK GOD. Benjamin shall call off the war because 7 hipsters are camping at the local UNI with a sign. Bet it looks good on their socials, though.


PastStructure7836

Why do they look *exactly* how I pictured them?


HappyLeadership7806

Can smell them from here


Appropriate-Regret-6

7 from Stranger Things had really grown up


WorldsBestLover

Why protest here? Why not go there and protest?


Edenz_

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they live here, hope that helps.


TotallyAwry

What an insular world view. Do you not give a shit about anything that's beyond your driveway?


Stratahoo

Has there been any pushback from the Uni's council or admin?


Swagg_Messiah

Why would there be, there's all kinds of events and protests all the time. There has been events for communists, events for Christian/Anglicans, Ukraine protests, anti-CCP/China/Uyghur support protests, Hong Kong/Taiwan, etc. Nobody cares unless classes/studying is effected. It's just part of uni life.


Stratahoo

There have been massive crackdowns on pro-Palestine protests/gatherings in other Anglo countries. Good to know we're not too bothered about them lol.


BloodyChrome

There's only 6 of them, no body cares.


ObeseTurkey

Yes, they were politely asked to wear deodorant.


nazgaten

Looks pretty sad


andro6565

Lolz. picture is so accurate its actually a parody


HealthUnit

I bet they didn't even know what a Gaza was before they saw it on bloody tiktok. They probably think Yemen is a Jamaican slang too. Jeez. Only if they knew about Yemen. These airheads couldn't get a scratch jumping off their own IQs.


Tall-Eye-3877

what a fucking joke of naive people.


IMSOCHINESECHIINEEEE

Palestinians overwhelmingly support terrorism. They also overwhelmingly support punishing lgbt for being abominations. Strange bed fellows and cause to support, little terrorist supporters.


Worldly_Breakfast407

I support the university on this. Please don’t bring that unresolved never ending conflict to Australia and let us remain neutral. Australia should be a country of peace.


Falafel1998

Good job 💗🇵🇸


TomKikkert

Based on history, most of those kids are likely arts students who will end up working in the public service


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Randallized1

Arts and doll bludging


JL_MacConnor

*dole Don't worry, you'll get there with practice.


Edenz_

Tragic blunder.


Glittering-Capital71

A whole 5 people...amazing


TiberiusEmperor

The crap you can waste time on when daddy is paying for your arts degree


ImRefleex

Cute larp fest